The Greatest War + The Greatest Generation = The Greatest War Flicks? (Trees And Things)

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permazorch: Not just you.

Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:46:23 EST

Stalingrad has more guts going on for me, too. Enemy at the Gates is just too hollywoodlike for me. I'd guess our ninjagirl komradka just hasn't seen it, yet.
I believe this version of A Midn

Acefantastik: Random War Flicks

Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:38:23 EST

Lawerence of Arabia, mostly set in WWI, complete with villianous Turks, romantic Arabs, and Sykes-Picot from Faisal's point of view.

Jet Pilot--a lovely Cold war film brought to us by Howard Hughes, John Wayne, and much cooperation from the USAF.

tomc: Re: maybe miniseries shouldn't count, but...

Mon, 23 Oct 2006 03:08:09 EST

"I'd argue that WWI might be a richer mine for deeply affecting stories than even WWII"

And of course there's Paths of Glory.

EatG definitely had it's moments.

To Have and Have Not was a movie set during WWII.(And so, come to

erik: Perhaps it's just me.

Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:10:58 EST

I hated "Enemy at the Gates." I liked "Stalingrad" monumentally better.

ninjagirl: maybe miniseries shouldn't count, but...

Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:18:36 EST

If miniseries do count, I think that Band of Brothers is just amazing. It's one of those films that I can't stop watching if I catch it playing on the History Channel or HBO. It kicked Saving Private Ryan into the dirt and took its lunch mone

gerrymander: Not just Europe

Sun, 22 Oct 2006 15:44:53 EST

There's a Chinese film from 2000 titled Devils on the Doorstep which deals with the Japanese occupation of a rural Chinese village during WWII. I cannot recommend this movie highly enough. Impecc

tomc: Re: Ask the poles

Sun, 22 Oct 2006 00:58:11 EST

How ironical.

MayorBob: Re: Why Not Apocalypse

Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:31:08 EST

I guess it's a case that in Apocalypse it pretty much was all metaphor. In The Deer Hunter, if it was metaphor, it didn't totally scuttle what for me was an extremely well done and emotionally satisfying film.

keta: Re: Why Not Apocalypse

Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:21:40 EST

Thanks for the comeback, MB.

I get the metaphor thingee, but I find it curious that for you, TDH can use it, but AN cannot. Personally, I fail to see the difference here.

MayorBob: Re: Why Not Apocalypse

Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:37:51 EST

Not to my knowledge. And I never heard of any Russian roulette matches for money being conducted in Saigon. I will admit to my affection for The Deer Hunter in spite of the totally fictional aspect of the Russian roulette because it seem

Steve Urkel: Re: Ask the poles

Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:19:33 EST

The victory over one evil, totalitarian regime left much of Europe under the control of another evil, totalitarian regime.

keta: Re: Why Not Apocalypse

Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:28:43 EST

The same tenets hold true for me when it comes to The Deer Hunter. There were some great performances, but what rankles is the plot turns on a nihilistic addiction to Russian roulette, and if I remember correctly this form of torture just wasn

permazorch: Come and See (Idi i Smotri)

Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:39:31 EST

Come and See
This is the absolute best war movie of all time, bar none, and the best WWII flick as well. I heard the original title was, Kill Hitler. It was made in 1985, when the situa

tomc: Re: Some Have Tried

Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:28:25 EST

AN is a bit over the top - I think of it as a psychedelic experience. I just saw the directors cut a couple of weeks ago and prefer it to the original.

One little known war movie is "The Beast", an Israeli production about a Russian tank crew that

Acefantastik: Re: Ask the poles

Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:19:01 EST

Do tell about the moral complexity of WWII

I present you with the Finns, who essentially collaborated with the Nazis in the Continuation War in order to keep Russia from overrunni

Thalia: Re: Ask the poles

Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:55:07 EST

Do tell about the moral complexity of WWII.

Thalia

MayorBob: Why Not Apocalypse

Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:29:48 EST

Someone in the queue noted that I hadn't listed Apocalypse Now as an example of a great Vietnam War flick. So, let me say it, I didn't overlook Apocalypse because I don't consider it to be a great Vietnam War flick. Essentially, C

permazorch: Re: Some Have Tried

Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:14:37 EST

Yeah, it's funny, I just rewatched the original version of Apocalypse Now and I have to come out with a preference for the Redux version as better. The 1979 cut is near the top of my "most overrated movies of all time" list. It just fucking c

Steve Urkel: Re: Some Have Tried

Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:26:41 EST

I thought Apacolypse Now was great stuff when I first saw it, I tried to watch the directors cut when it came out in 2001(?) and didn't like it all, finding it bombastic and stylistically irritating.

I've never seen Sorrow and the Pity, I'll try

Steve Urkel: Lost WWII masterpiece I forgot to mention

Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:17:44 EST

Lurking in the wings is Lewis' unfinished, unreleased masterpiece "The Day the Clown Cried, a film in which Jerry plays "a Nazi clown who leads children to the gas chamber in a concentration camp."

rombuu: Re: The Greatest War + The Greatest Generation = T

Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:23:48 EST

Man, No love for The Dirty Dozen?

uncarved block: Some Have Tried

Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:01:23 EST

When I first saw the title, I thought The Sorrow And The Pity was a joke movie Woody Allen had made up for Annie Hall-- until I finally caught most of it on the International Channel years ago. An amazing film, from what I could

profwhat: Birth of a Nation

Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:46:28 EST

It all started with Birth of a Nation, and if you ask me it may as well have stopped there. That movie has all the plot elements that have subsequently been copied by modern war movies: elaborate extra-filled battle scenes, climactic confrontations o

nmiguy: Re: Take SPR, please...

Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:22:00 EST

If you are talking about older WWII movies, I always liked The Dirty Dozen. Telly Savalas was so creepy, it brought some whole new dimesnion to teh idea of good guys doing dirty deeds. I don't think he cared about winning the war, he just liked

nmiguy: Re: The Greatest War + The Greatest Generation = T

Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:19:39 EST

Platoon was a great Vietnam era movie as well. Good characters make for good movies.

As far as WWII movies, Saving Private Ryan and The Pianist were quite moving films, but the most important one was Schindler's List. While not really

Steve Urkel: Ask the poles

Thu, 19 Oct 2006 02:53:50 EST

The only reason WWII doesn't seem morally complex is because it's too painful to think about.

I thought Full Metal Jacket was hilarious, too over the top to suceed as intended.

Of course I also think Apocalypse Now doesn't have to be read as

Steve Urkel: Nuts!

Thu, 19 Oct 2006 02:41:36 EST

I would add The Dam Busters, based on the true story of the RAF's 617 squadron and the deployment of the boncing bomb; the amusing anti-war film Roi de Couer; and while I wouldn't call it a "war movie" though it takes place during WWII is the

tomc: Take SPR, please...

Thu, 19 Oct 2006 02:18:55 EST

My current favorite war movie is A Bridge Too Far.

I would remove Saving Private Ryan - too sappy. The Longest Day did the D-Day landing much better. And if you like graphic war violence, I'd put Black Hawk Down on the list.

Now, does The Engl

port1080: Re: The Greatest War + The Greatest Generation = T

Thu, 19 Oct 2006 01:04:48 EST

Perhaps it's a generational thing, but I've generally found Vietnam War movies to be more compelling than World War II movies. No matter how you look at it, it's difficult to argue that we shouldn't have fought WWII. We can argue whether