http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/4/7413/10355 On Sept. 20, the House passed (by voice vote) <a href="http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=109_cong_bills&docid=f:h5295eh.txt.pdf">HR 5295</a> (pdf), or the The Student Teacher Safety Act of 2006 mandating that school districts spell out policies to enable searches (pat-downs, strip, etc) of students by school staff without warrants or, theoretically, parental notification.   en-us Tue, 10 Oct 2006 07:11:17 EST Thu, 5 Apr 2007 18:04:03 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/4/7413/10355#16 <a href="http://rx.sunwave.com/cymbaltac">cymbalta</a> <a href="http://rx.sunwave.com/flonasef">flonase</a> <a href="http://percocetp.rx45online.com">percocet</a> <a href="http://freewebtown.com/rxpills/ritalinr">ritalin</a> Thu, 5 Apr 2007 18:04:03 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/4/7413/10355#15 <a href="http://mc-hammermhilbb.edtna.com.ar">mc hammer i like big buts</a> <a href="http://beim-hundbh.uegva.com.ar">beim hund</a> <a href="http://warzenwig.ualam.com.ar">warzen im genitalbereich</a> <a href="http://videovm.dolor.com.ar">video mikroskop</ Sun, 11 Feb 2007 02:18:19 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/4/7413/10355#14 <a href="http://dc-mortgagedmm.lotto2.info">dc mortgage marketing</a> <a href="http://long-termltchia.medicine1.info">long term care health insurance agencies</a> <a href="http://real-estatereind.medicine28.info">real estate in north dakota</a> <a href="ht Tue, 30 Jan 2007 22:13:52 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/4/7413/10355#13 <a href="http://judischerjk.dialo.com.ar">judischer kalender</a> <a href="http://finanzamtfb.hpes.com.ar">finanzamt bescheinigung</a> <a href="http://trimmertm.agtb.com.ar">trimmer motor</a> <a href="http://amd-athlonaap.hpes.com.ar">amd athlon pc</a> <a h Tue, 19 Dec 2006 13:47:06 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/4/7413/10355#12 fnord Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:13:21 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/4/7413/10355#11 If you can't see the fnords they can't hurt you. Tue, 10 Oct 2006 19:08:22 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/4/7413/10355#10 <i>What values does it teach the kids?  Fear authority?  Safety always comes before liberty?</i><p> Not coincidentally, the same values that the government wishes to inculcate in the population as a whole.   Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:44:56 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/4/7413/10355#9 When my sister was in high school, she was in teh girls bathroom with some other girls who were smoking cigarettes.  A teacher comes into the restroom and decalres that she smells marijuana.  So she takes all the grils to the principals office fo Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:15:59 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/4/7413/10355#8 Well, Mark Foley supports this legislation, so it's gotta have something going for it. Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:38:12 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/4/7413/10355#7 <i>What values does it teach the kids?  Fear authority?  Safety always comes before liberty?<br> ...<br> But random searches is another level of intrusion, and seems remarkably ineffective besides.</i><p> It effectively teaches kids to expect esc Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:37:26 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/4/7413/10355#6 Its not often I disagree with rombuu, but do a google search for "teacher arrested drugs" and it returns 5 million hits. If you read the bill, its not portraying itself as a measure to find weapons, its supposed to find drugs. <p> So I ask you, why not sea Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:20:24 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/4/7413/10355#5 As Thalia noted in the subQ, I'm wondering why teacher, adminstrator, and school board groups all oppose it.  It's probably not a great bill.<p> Aside from that, and aside from the legal issues, it seems like a questionable idea educationally (if anyo Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:13:54 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/4/7413/10355#4 <i>Why don't we search the handbags of staff in addition to the students bookbags? </i><p> Well, <a href="http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html">Here is a list of school shootings over the past 10 years</a>, and I don't see any cases where a staff me Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:02:11 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/4/7413/10355#3 Back in the 80s, when I was in high school, warrantless locker searches were implemented as part of the War On Drugs.  It was pointed out at the time that minors don't have the full suite of rights that adults do, and that schools act in loco parentis Tue, 10 Oct 2006 12:39:57 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/4/7413/10355#2 I'm a long way from bailing, but this definitely strikes me as an extremely poor idea. Even airport security has some oversight and guidance to prevent abuses. This school bill, in contrast, seems designed to maximize them. Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:04:01 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/4/7413/10355#1 We have free speech zones, passenger control areas..might as well change the schools to be rights-limited. I have no objection since A) I have no kids and B) I blame the parents of kids for supporting this. <p> Still the thought occurs to me -- why just th Tue, 10 Oct 2006 07:32:42 EST string http://www.treesandthings.com/search/