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<title>Are you carryin' a weapon on you I know a lot of you [Wisconsin Public School Teachers] are? (Trees And Things)</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518</link>
<description>Meet &lt;a href="http://www.legis.state.wi.us/assembly/asm02/asm02.html#">State Rep. Frank G. Lasee&lt;/a> (R-WI). He has a &lt;a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15142930/">unique suggestion&lt;/a> to reduce the threat of school violence. He proposes allowing teachers, administrators, and the janitors to legally carry concealed firearms on school property. </description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:44:35 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Iunebrave: Re: Are you carryin' a weapon on you I know a lot</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#24</link>
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<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#23</link>
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<title>Nekiihrac: Re: Are you carryin' a weapon on you I know a lot</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#22</link>
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<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:03:06 EST</pubDate>
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<title>sersaleelepe: Re: Are you carryin' a weapon on you I know a lot</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#21</link>
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<title>LastResort: Re: My take</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#20</link>
<description>It's currently being done in some forward looking school districts. &#160;&lt;br>&#10;&lt;a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15253321/">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15253321/&lt;/a>&lt;p>&#10;Did I really just say that about Texas? </description>
<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:08:33 EST</pubDate>
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<title>kcwookie: Re: Are you carryin' a weapon on you I know a lot</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#19</link>
<description>The compulsary public service bill that is floating around which would require 1-2 years of &lt;a href="http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c109:4:./temp/~c109YX4gtB::">public service &lt;/a>(including the military) for everyone between 18-42 would help remidy</description>
<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:14:42 EST</pubDate>
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<title>gerrymander: Re: My take</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#18</link>
<description>&lt;i>Far better instead to teach kids to attack someone with a gun en masse and overwhelm him/her with whatever weapons are available.&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;Of course, the logical end results of that are teaching self-defense as part of physical education instead of (e.g.)</description>
<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:03:54 EST</pubDate>
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<title>humorlesscretin: Re: Are you carryin' a weapon on you I know a lot</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#17</link>
<description>&lt;i>As to training, so far as I know, in the U.S. you can acquire a weapon with absolutely no training, no clue about which end is up. &#160;I find this rather disconcerting.&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;I can't speak for the whole of the US, but all I had to do for a carry perm</description>
<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 05:16:56 EST</pubDate>
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<title>zyxwvutsr: Re: My take</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#16</link>
<description>&lt;blockquote>&lt;i>How the fuck did we get out of the US schoolroom and all the way over to Asia?&lt;/i>&lt;/blockquote>It's the magic of teh internets!</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 19:40:22 EST</pubDate>
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<title>keta: Re: My take</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#15</link>
<description>WTF, wetkarma? &#160;I thought we were discussing arming school officials with &lt;b>guns&lt;/b> in an effort to counteract students coming to school, armed with &lt;b>guns.&lt;/b>&lt;p>&#10;Seriously, what the fuck is your condescending remark supposed to mean? &#160;The fu</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 18:59:05 EST</pubDate>
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<title>wetkarma: Re: My take</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#14</link>
<description>&lt;i>&lt;br>&#10;Really? &#160;I would have thought the whole "incredibly easy access to guns" is the core of the problem.&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;Are you being serious? &#160;You can't conceive of a way for someone to commit mass murder -other- than using guns? Nothing in the hist</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 18:31:26 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Thalia: Re: Are you carryin' a weapon on you I know a lot</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#13</link>
<description>I'm not actually anti-gun, I'm just against untrained, frustrated and/or mentally unstable people having guns. &#160;Having had a wonderful time in high school, I can name quite a few mentally unstable &amp; frustrated teachers there. &#160;I'm sure you al</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 17:01:27 EST</pubDate>
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<title>keta: Re: My take</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#12</link>
<description>&lt;i>This whole "line up to be shot" while you wait for SWAT to save you is the core of the problem.&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;Really? &#160;I would have thought the whole "incredibly easy access to guns" is the core of the problem.</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:42:13 EST</pubDate>
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<title>wetkarma: My take</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#11</link>
<description>Arming the teachers seem a bit questionable since there is always the chance that the teacher will forget/not carry a gun, be killed first, or even disarmed.&lt;p>&#10;Far better instead to teach kids to attack someone with a gun en masse and overwhelm him/her wi</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:15:56 EST</pubDate>
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<title>wetkarma: Re: Questions for Lou and others</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#10</link>
<description>&lt;i>&lt;br>&#10;IRC guns purchased for home defense are much more likely to be used incorrectly (e.g. accidents, domestic violence) than successfully&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;Might be worth reading the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_States#Lower_cr</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:50:19 EST</pubDate>
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<title>nmiguy: Re: I am a teacher</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#9</link>
<description>They shouldn't give teachers guns. &#160;Samurai swords.&lt;p>&#10;Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. &#160;We get the Uma Thurman thing going on in that classroom. &#160;You can cut their heads open like Lucy Liu and just pour that education right in! &#160;I </description>
<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:41:16 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Lou: FWIW</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#8</link>
<description>Perhaps I misspoke&lt;p>&#10;I am hardly an expert on Thai and Israeli gun culture. &#160;However, I do know that Israelis are constantly around weapons. &#160;Mandatory military service...reserves for what seems like life...reservists who have their weapons (not</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:24:31 EST</pubDate>
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<title>T Slothrop: Re: Questions for Lou and others</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#7</link>
<description>That's exactly the point I was trying to make in Comment #3, below. Thanks for stating it more succinctly (and more seriously) than I did.&lt;p>&#10;Having a bunch of loaded guns and a bunch of high school-aged kids concentrated in one place is a terrible idea. H</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:07:48 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Coelacanth: Re: Questions for Lou and others</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#6</link>
<description>There's plenty of good discussion to be had with respect to "Guns are Bad", second amendment rights, etc. &#160;But leaving that aside, if the pragmatic aspect of the proposal is for teachers to serve as an impromptu defense force in the event of school at</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:46:48 EST</pubDate>
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<title>keta: Re: I am a teacher</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#5</link>
<description>&lt;i>... I would just go Samuel Jackson on their asses.&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;Cliches are insidious. &#160;If using them was a death-penalty offence, we'd all, uh, be up shit creek without a paddle. &#160;</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:16:27 EST</pubDate>
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<title>wetkarma: Questions for Lou and others</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#4</link>
<description>&lt;i>&lt;br>&#10;Well sure, educators in Thailand and Israel can pack heat. &#160;Especially in Israel. &#160;You never know when the kids from Hamas High (The Fighting Jerboas) are going to drop by during one of their many field trips.&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;I was watching a perf</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:43:56 EST</pubDate>
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<title>T Slothrop: Re: I am a teacher</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#3</link>
<description>Indeed.&lt;p>&#10;And in a somewhat more serious vein, who is going to be responsible for making sure all those packing teachers are constantly aware of the location of their heaters?&lt;p>&#10;Seems like flooding the average high school with loaded guns is a very, very</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:18:34 EST</pubDate>
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<title>MizDarwin: I am a teacher</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#2</link>
<description>... and I wouldn't trust &lt;i>myself&lt;/i> with a gun. One more essay beginning with the phrase "In today's society" or containing the even more loathsome "we as humans" and I would just go Samuel Jackson on their asses. "I have had enough of these motherfucki</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:35:46 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Lou: OK for them</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/10/5/183954/518#1</link>
<description>Well sure, educators in Thailand and Israel can pack heat. &#160;Especially in Israel. &#160;You never know when the kids from Hamas High (The Fighting Jerboas) are going to drop by during one of their many field trips.&lt;p>&#10;This would be an astoundingly bad</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:52:33 EST</pubDate>
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