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<title>Evil Hollywood Liberals *Force* Your Children To Watch Dirty, Dirty Porn (Trees And Things)</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007</link>
<description>In a story sure to thrill all you evil, America-hating liberal jihadists, a recent decision by the 10th Circuit U.S. District Court (Denver, CO) has ruled in favor of the Director's Guild of America ("DGA") and the major movie studios and against the God-loving movie censors who were buying, editing and then &lt;i>profiting off of&lt;/i> Hollywood's intellectual property. &lt;a href="http://static.flickr.com/1/9872_00f7f9e322_m.jpg">I'd link to the actual opinion, but it is, as of today, still unavailable online - n</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 17:24:56 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Iunebrave: Re: Evil Hollywood Liberals *Force* Your Children</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#28</link>
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<pubDate>Sat, 3 Mar 2007 10:13:19 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Nekiihrac: Re: Evil Hollywood Liberals *Force* Your Children</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#27</link>
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<pubDate>Sat, 3 Feb 2007 19:56:29 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Nekiihrac: Re: Evil Hollywood Liberals *Force* Your Children</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#26</link>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 08:16:33 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Ramasoonedith: Re: Evil Hollywood Liberals *Force* Your Children</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#25</link>
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<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 05:08:31 EST</pubDate>
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<title>koos: Re: Killing isn't porn</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#24</link>
<description>They did take out the killing. The scene with Sonny at the toll booth? Not there.&lt;p>&#10;{ k }</description>
<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 14:46:21 EST</pubDate>
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<title>JimmyHavok: Killing isn't porn</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#23</link>
<description>They didn't take out the killing, they took out the dirty, dirty words. &#160;We wouldn't want childrens' minds to be warped by hearing someone say "Take that, assbite" as they shot holes in someone else, would we?</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 21:40:45 EST</pubDate>
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<title>nmiguy: Liberals *Force* Your Children To Watch Dirty Porn</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#22</link>
<description>A clean version of the Godfather? &#160;You gotta be kidding me! &#160;What is the point of that? &#160;The whole story is about the Mafia! &#160;Hello?! &#160;Killing is part of what they do. &#160;If you don't want to see horses heads and guys getting sh</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:35:09 EST</pubDate>
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<title>lyd: Still Confused</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#21</link>
<description>I am still failing to understand the wrongdoing here, I guess.&lt;p>&#10;If I have purchased a retail copy of a film and I wish to edit it in some way for my personal use (leaving the DMCA's impact on my ability to legally extract content from a DVD aside for a m</description>
<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 08:50:24 EST</pubDate>
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<title>kcwookie: One way to look at the ruling...</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#20</link>
<description>is to put the shoe on the other foot. &#160;What happens if I take a show like Lizzie McGuire and spiced it up. &#160;What about suppling versions for those who don't want the original "tame" version. &#160;I'm sure there would be people who would pay for </description>
<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 09:12:13 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Thalia: Copyright, Derivative Works, Fair Use</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#19</link>
<description>This is very clearly a derivative, and non-transformative derivative at that. &#160;The editors added absolutely nothing to the works, they took some parts away. &#160;Generally, fair use requires some sort of transformative use. &#160;Commentary, parody, </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 19:17:18 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Adipic Acid: Just Wait Till They Go Public</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#18</link>
<description>The shareholders will demand better sales and the "good bits" viewer will be a runaway success.&lt;p>&#10;As Barnum said, you will never go broke underestimating the taste of the American Public.</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 09:04:22 EST</pubDate>
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<title>koos: Er...</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#17</link>
<description>Actually, if you make a derivative work without permission it's called an &lt;b>illegal copy&lt;/b>, &lt;i>not&lt;/i> an "illegal copyright".&lt;p>&#10;I'm a moron. No matter how many times I preiview and edit... I still get something really wrong.&lt;p>&#10;So sorry,&lt;br>&#10;{ k }</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 08:09:34 EST</pubDate>
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<title>koos: Depends, milo</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#16</link>
<description>Well, if the seller made a xerox of the book and ripped out the pages from the copy and then sold you &lt;i>both&lt;/i> versions of the book (similar to what the defendants in the case at issue have done)? Yes, they have &lt;b>obviously&lt;/b> violated copyright law.&lt;</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 08:06:53 EST</pubDate>
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<title>cloudofdust: re: creators rights</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#15</link>
<description>&lt;i>But the danger is that it could set a precedent for attacks on other creators, like those who produced Star Wars - The Phantom Edit, which removed Jar-Jar Binks from The Phantom Menace, or mashups of trailers like Brokeback to the Future.&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;There a</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 07:28:09 EST</pubDate>
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<title>JimmyHavok: creators rights</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#14</link>
<description>On the one hand, this seems to be a clear victory for creators rights, since it protects their work from bowdlerization.&lt;p>&#10;But the danger is that it could set a precedent for attacks on other creators, like those who produced &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 04:19:29 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Milo: Book too?</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#13</link>
<description>I bought a used book online.  When it arrived, some pages were missing.  Did the seller also violate copyright law?&lt;p>&#13;&#10;-milo</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 21:17:14 EST</pubDate>
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<title>zyxwvutsr: The problem is the selling</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#12</link>
<description>&lt;blockquote>&lt;i>If you've bought it, then you can alter it however you see fit...&lt;/i>&lt;/blockquote>You can alter it, sure, but you cannot &lt;i>sell&lt;/i> an altered copy that is 99% the same as the original.&lt;blockquote>&lt;i>...microsoft and other companies want li</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:35:53 EST</pubDate>
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<title>profwhat: Copying</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#11</link>
<description>Nope, it's flat out copying. &#160;From the opinion (linked to in comment #1 in this thread):&lt;p>&#10;&lt;blockquote>CleanFlicks first obtains an original copy of the movie from its customer or by its own&lt;br>&#10;purchase from an authorized retailer. It then makes a d</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:27:13 EST</pubDate>
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<title>koos: Well...</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#10</link>
<description>The simple answer to your question, thefadd, is that a movie is protected by Copyright Law, and a computer is protected by Patent Law. They're very different systems meant to protect very different things, and so different rules apply. &lt;p>&#10;I mean, you can'</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 13:59:42 EST</pubDate>
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<title>koos: But... stammer, stammer...</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#9</link>
<description>But, they obviously &lt;b>have&lt;/b> made illegal copies here! That they didn't then throw away the legal copies doesn't and shouldn't make what they did any more legal. &#13;&#10;&lt;p>Copyright law, from my limited understanding, is about publishing creative works, and </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 13:56:11 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: publish?</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#8</link>
<description>But they aren't publishing. If they're keeping the same packaging and using a one-for-one system (ie, not making duplicate copies), then how is this any different from buying a computer from Dell, adding a dsl modem and suped-up video card and reselling it</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 13:46:06 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: hadn't seen it from that angle</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#7</link>
<description>&lt;i>As I understand the operation, this was not a "knock-off" process, but each tape was paid for and then treated separately.&lt;/i>&#13;&#10;&lt;p>&#13;&#10;I hadn't looked at it that way. If that's the case, then I agree with you 100% and reverse my opinion on the matter comp</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 13:38:49 EST</pubDate>
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<title>wetkarma: Copyright law and product mindshare</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#6</link>
<description>So you add the frame "Hiked up the mountain by charlies" - congratulations you have now published your own DVD.&lt;p>&#10;The problem is that the original owners of movie have the exclusive right to publish and hasn't authorized you to republish it. &lt;br>&#10;</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:48:33 EST</pubDate>
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<title>cloudofdust: Copyright Law</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#5</link>
<description>Not a lawyer, but your example seems consistent with long established practice. And whether or not you're breaking the law by adding your "Hiked up the mountain" credit would depend on where you put it. Are you adding it to the very beginning or end of the</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:18:18 EST</pubDate>
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<title>koos: Depends on what you mean by &quot;fair use&quot;</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#4</link>
<description>Charlies, &lt;p>&#10;I'm no Thalia, to be sure, but I &lt;i>do&lt;/i> have a JD and a couple of Bar numbers (although, FYI, they're very, very fresh), so I'll take a stab at answering your questions without being obtuse or, hopefully, making too much of a fool of mysel</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:03:16 EST</pubDate>
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<title>koos: Much thanks!</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#3</link>
<description>I was wondering why I couldn't find it. I mean, it makes sense Lexis didn't have it online yet, but it should have been somewhere.&lt;p>&#10;I am embarassed at my rusty legal research skills. But I thank you, heresiarch, for your assistance.&lt;p>&#10;{ k }</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 06:58:37 EST</pubDate>
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<title>charlies: Copyright Law</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#2</link>
<description>Despite my natural leftist, pro-porn, potty-mouth leanings, this decision saddens me as it draws the noose ever tighter around the "fair use" doctrine. Whatever royalty issue might be involved was obviated when the "scrubber" paid for the original tapes. A</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 02:30:05 EST</pubDate>
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<title>heresiarch: Opinion and Correction</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2006/7/10/145614/007#1</link>
<description>You can find the a .pdf of the opinion &lt;a href="http://www.joegratz.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/CleanFlicksDistCtOpinion.pdf">here&lt;/a>. The opinion is from the District of Colorado, not the Tenth Circuit (though Colorado is in the 10th's bailiwick). </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 00:19:00 EST</pubDate>
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