Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? (Trees And Things)

Nekiihrac: Re: Whatever happened to innocent until proven gu

Sun, 28 Jan 2007 11:33:56 EST

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stevetherobot: 8

Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:18:53 EST

You have eight guns with you at all times? Wow!

Steve Urkel: exciting bank trivia!

Sat, 8 Jul 2006 13:18:35 EST

From your first example, if an AL-NUBI came up and the intended recipient wasn't in Egypt or Kenya we would clear it. If it was going to Egypt or Kenya you could then use date of birth (ask sender recipients date of birth to ascertain it doesn't match, req

geekybob: Or, maybe...

Sat, 8 Jul 2006 12:07:36 EST

Maybe they looked at the BATF background checks, and figured out that I have so many guns that I simply must have three or four of them with me at all times.

(For the record, I only have eight).

socky: identify yourself, shopper

Sat, 8 Jul 2006 05:34:48 EST

You don't have to give your real name to send money

slightly off-topic but why should you? You don't have to give your real name to put money - or countersigned traveller's cheques, or bank guarantees - in an envelope and send it through the post. You

snarkism: Well

Sat, 8 Jul 2006 04:03:03 EST

Perhaps they think that being named "Geeky" means you are a cyber-terrorist computer hacker?

snarkism

charlies: Commoner than Geekybob

Sat, 8 Jul 2006 03:35:05 EST

Thank you, Geekybob. My exhibit in the list of reasons these computers will never catch on: A few years ago a state trooper stopped me for speeding in Nebraska. I gave him my (Washington State) driver's license. He went back to his car. A few minutes later

MayorBob: Mohammed is a problematic name.

Fri, 7 Jul 2006 23:47:39 EST

Apparently irony isn't dead yet in Dubai if the name of the Western Union office manager is correct:

"Mohammed and Ahmed have become problematic names because they are so common on the list of terrorists," said Nixon Baby, who runs a Western Unio

natophonic: Ahmed the Tall, Captured!

Fri, 7 Jul 2006 19:45:26 EST

well, maybe, or it might have been some other guy...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Ahmed_Salim_Swedan

Either way, he doesn't look as scary as his name.

natophonic: debased but not devalued

Fri, 7 Jul 2006 19:32:21 EST

Wow, interesting background (I like how I can mod you up even though I've already commented). I was under the impression that the PATRIOT act first mandated that banks block transactions involving suspected terrorists, and that the DHS maintained the list.

Steve Urkel: I've come to debase the currency

Fri, 7 Jul 2006 17:18:20 EST

"The root of the problem is that private organizations have been forcibly deputized by the Department of Homeland Security into law enforcement responsibilities, because of course post-9/11 "everything has changed."

That isn't the case at all. The Offi

natophonic: why not follow the money instead of blocking it?

Fri, 7 Jul 2006 16:09:07 EST

The holds are to cover the bank's own ass, e.g., don't allow Joe to withdraw $10,000 from his checking account that had a balance of $3,000 yesterday and $14,000 today after he just deposited a check, until you're really really sure the check is good.

geekybob: Speaking of that pesky "no-fly" list...

Fri, 7 Jul 2006 15:59:56 EST

When I purchase a firearm, the transaction is often "held" overnight for further review by the BATF. I always assumed that this was because I have a very common name, and that a namesake had a criminal record. (For the record, it is not a version of

thefadd: Not a ton of sympathy here

Fri, 7 Jul 2006 15:39:14 EST

There are holds and reporting requirements on all types of funds transfers. Frankly, given the controls in place on bank accounts and credit card accounts in America, I'm sort of shocked at the ease of Western Union money transfers in general. You don't ha

natophonic: sympathy for the crusading devils

Fri, 7 Jul 2006 15:05:08 EST

To be somewhat fair, the way it reads is that the transaction was flagged because the recipient was "Sahir Mohammed", not just "Mohammed", so that narrows the field from approximately 300M people to, let's say, 150000. Add in