Loans To 3.4%... Eventually... And Then They Double Again (Trees And Things)

humorlesscretin: Re: The Value of a 4 Year Degree

Wed, 31 Jan 2007 07:39:43 EST

The change would have to rely on HR departments in corporations to begin to trust the degrees Junior College graduates hold.

Trouble is, the only real way to do that is to lower the expected pay required for junior college-eligible positions (or

uncarved block: Note The Proviso

Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:08:38 EST

Yep, I buy into the "sound mind, sound body" argument for the most part, which is why I put in that bit about keeping PE. If nothing else, it provides poor students with an option to exercise without having to pay gym fees elsewhere. Intramura

pO157: Re: The Value of a 4 Year Degree

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:47:42 EST

Trouble is, there's 2 sides to that problem. Not only do we have to work on our junior/community colleges, we also have to work on the HR departments that generate those checksheets. Presumably these requirements started popping up

humorlesscretin: Re: The Value of a 4 Year Degree

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:43:38 EST

But for many careers, I really wonder about the investment of time and money just to complete a checkbox on a Human Resources job interview sheet. For everybody else, they should be encouraged to go to a quality (and this means we would have to work on

pO157: The Value of a 4 Year Degree

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 11:55:32 EST
In college, not too long ago, I marveled at the differences in programs and workload between majors. It seemed like certain majors seemed to spend the majority of their time building or reinforcing basic writing and communication skills that should h

port1080: Re: Can't Agree

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:54:25 EST
If you're going to go for social engineering, you could get a lot more results with less effort by removing sports teams (NOT physical education!) from colleges and universities. I'm not an elitist snob (I don't think), and enjoy watching team sports of

Thalia: Re: Devil's advocate

Mon, 29 Jan 2007 05:46:14 EST
How about this: We'll just discourage scholarships and loans for degrees that are likely to lead to working at McDonalds or working as a secretary. My secretary, who is a very bright lady, has a 4-year degree from a decent college in political

uncarved block: Next On The List, zyx

Sun, 28 Jan 2007 22:55:01 EST
But in the name of brevity, I decided not to go into every single thing that could get ditched from the academic scene in the name of scholarship. Besides, my school didn't have frats, so I can't speak from direct experience whether they have any upsides o

zyxwvutsr: Re: Can't Agree

Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:25:23 EST

...sports teams...I can't think of any single part of "college life"* that does more to distract from the educational mission...
Never been to a frat party, eh?

uncarved block: Can't Agree

Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:00:34 EST
If you're going to go for social engineering, you could get a lot more results with less effort by removing sports teams (NOT physical education!) from colleges and universities. I'm not an elitist snob (I don't think), and enjoy watching team

DEMachina: Re: Devil's advocate

Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:01:44 EST
Overall I like your idea (especially since I got above a 1200 on the SAT :)). Problems with standardized tests (and how I'm not sure they're very good predictors of performance) aside, your solution only works if employers stop requiring college degr

port1080: Devil's advocate

Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:27:54 EST
This may sound odd coming from a guy who's essentially making a career out of being a student, but I think that too many people go to college. A lot of my friends who went to the same (rather expensive) private four year undergraduate school that I did ar

ethics: Re: Loans To 3.4%... Eventually... And Then They D

Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:32:20 EST
You know, I was REALLY hoping the Democrats would do the right thing, especially on the front of taxes. Back in 1987, I made 8,340 dollars in that year, trying to put myself through school. My parents made a lot of money (and they were so good to me