If You Don't Vote, You Got Nothing To Complain About. (Trees And Things)

Steve Urkel: Re: Gordon for Congress

Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:14:15 EST

Some Englishman, whose name I can't remember, was standing for MP and an old lady asked him "Do you have any skeletons in the closet?" and he looked at her and said "Whole graveyards, madam, whole graveyards."

uncarved block: Which Is Why

Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:05:03 EST

the real power of the American system is the degree of power allocated to the minority party (or parties, when such existed.) Cloture, vetoes, veto overrides . . if you want the government to act quickly (in normal circumstances), you'd better have about 7

pO157: Re: etov

Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:14:01 EST

Here is a party accepting applications over the internet for Presidential nominee. They even allow people to help them vet the candidates and decide who to go with over the web (based on number of donors for

Lou: Gordon for Congress

Wed, 21 Nov 2007 07:57:03 EST

Why didn't you run?

snwodttam: Re: If You Don't Vote, You Got Nothing To Complain

Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:17:43 EST

"If you don't vote, you have no right to complain."

This is something I have very conflicting feelings about. On the one hand, it makes perfect sense to me. Voting is your chance to voice your opinion on something, so if you don't take the c

Steve Urkel: etov

Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:59:03 EST

"if you don't vote, you have no right to complain."

This makes no sense. For example, unless something truly bizarre happens, my state is going to go Democratic in 2008. Meaning whether I vote or not, it won't make a difference. It also seems lik

Steve Urkel: Re: voting utility

Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:51:48 EST

What's democracy's track record? Since the first one in Athens they have a tendancy go bad. The democracies that haven't are the exceptions, and are as, if not more, anomalous as Singapore (Switzerland, for example).

thefadd: Re: If You Don't Vote, You Got Nothing To Complain

Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:35:46 EST

Voting is just one way of getting things done. As the media seems to fixate more and more on how much money has been raised by a candidate as an indication of their health and ability to last a lengthy campaign, donation and fund raising continue to have a

Lou: Too cynical

Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:32:46 EST

I once saw a piece of graffiti that proclaimed, "If voting changed anything, it would be illegal." While I doubt that the ruling elite would go quite so far as to make voting illegal, I can only look at how nasty campaigns have gotten, how focus grou

port1080: Re: voting utility

Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:29:36 EST

I've thought for sometime now that democracy is a tragically flawed system -- the old standby that there is nothing better lined up seem questionable to me however. I look to nations like Singapore and I see the future of national government.

uncarved block: Things You Can't Say

Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:26:23 EST

As for the general principle about the link between voting and bitching, the sentiment strikes me as one of the many positions folks take that parse down to, "I don't want to think about that any more, so stop bugging me." Similar statements

pO157: Re: voting utility

Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:29:18 EST

Voting as a sacred right strikes me as akin to the right to have a jury trial when you obtain a traffic ticket. Yes you can always exercise the franchise, but the system is generally stacked against you doing so or experiencing any positive benefits by

wetkarma: voting utility

Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:19:16 EST
Voting as a sacred right strikes me as akin to the right to have a jury trial when you obtain a traffic ticket. Yes you can always exercise the franchise, but the system is generally stacked against you doing so or experiencing any positive benefits by doi

pO157: From the Poll

Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:47:15 EST
It's a silly notion in that you might not like either of the major choices and you know it's a wasted trip to the polls for some obscure third or fourth party candidate.
First, it should never be a wasted trip to the polls. Voting is a sacred r