http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856 Usually a candidate garnering support from another party or <a href="http://intrepidliberaljournal.blogspot.com/2007/08/karl-roveclinton-gambit.html">enemy party operatives</a> would be A Bad Thing, at the very least <a href="http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/12/rove-has-advice.html">a head scratcher</a>. Then why is an opposing <a href="http://www.lp.org/fp/article_546.shtml">political party boosting a Republican candidate in the race for the New Hampshire primary</a>? en-us Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:44:16 EST Thu, 27 Dec 2007 04:21:19 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#33 But Ron Paul is a weirdo.  Come on now, the guy agrees that the UN is trying to take over as a world government.  And he thinks multiculturalism is evil, and blacks are criminals.  Pure weirdo.  <a href="http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/200 Thu, 27 Dec 2007 04:21:19 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#32 Our boy Ron Paul just took a look at the political arena, and realized that the American people are too damned simple-minded to accept more than two choices, unless they're talking about breakfast cereal. Good/bad, black/white, gay/straight, plus/minus - t Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:41:58 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#31 <blockquote><i>The fact that the bank didn't have Kucinich's foresight should be counted against the bank, not Kucinich</i></blockquote>Can you describe the "foresight" that Kucinich had? Even with hindsight I don't see much foresight on Kucinich's part.<p Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:36:11 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#30 The bank forced the city into bankruptcy by rescinding its credit because the city wouldn't sell muni light. Don't make this out as a liberal conspiracy theory thing--the bank was simply protecting its assets in what it thought was a bad financial move on Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:45:43 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#29 <blockquote><i>It takes two sides to make a bankruptcy</i></blockquote>Sure, but the bank is not running for president. All I'm saying is that Kucinich's supporters like to use the Muni Light deal as an example of his leadership abilities, but when you exa Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:44:30 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#28 It takes two sides to make a bankruptcy.  The bank was demanding that the city's utility be sold to a utility (which just happened to have interlocking directors) that the NRC had just ruled had engaged in illegal monopoly practices including delibera Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:01:15 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#27 It looks like both Kucinich and Huckabee have supporters <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/12/mike-huckabees.html">trying to institute</a> "money bomb" days for their candidates. Kucinich's flopped, while Huckabee "Freedom Day" is upcoming. Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:41:38 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#26 <blockquote><i>This gives zero credit for restoring responsible taxing and spending habits</i></blockquote>I don't blame Kucinich for the situation he found himself in, but allowing a city to go into default would not generally be considered a fiscally res Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:20:48 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#25     We've already had two examples of how difficult it is to turn money and a high media profile into results in the primaries: Howard Dean and Ross Perot. Perot, who certainly didn't do himself any favors with his zig-zag on whether he was runni Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:37:44 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#24 You're adding money saved by citizens due to lower electric rates and subtracting tax increases, even though the tax increases went to erase a budget deficit.  This gives zero credit for restoring responsible taxing and spending habits. Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:29:18 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#23 <blockquote><i>According to your rating system, the best possible mayor would be one who eliminates all taxes, and then gives out cash to citizens</i></blockquote>Really? What's my rating system? I certainly didn't mention one in this discussion.<p> Anyway Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:32:49 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#22 According to your rating system, the best possible mayor would be one who eliminates all taxes, and then gives out cash to citizens.  The previous mayor had <a href="http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/entry.php?rec=1646">raised expenditures 30% even as Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:47:05 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#21 I think it is great that he is taking initiative to do things at the 'grass roots level' to support a candidate like Ron Paul. On the other hand, what is a gentleman in his late 30s doing bitching about how this country is being run if he has never voted o Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:04:15 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#20 <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071217/ap_po/mccain_lieberman">Joe Lieberman is expected to endorse John McCain for the presidency.</a> Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:56:42 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#19 <i>It's registration only....<p> Not entirely sure what Ms. Sue's link is to as I couldn't be bothered with recalling my (or plastic's) registration but you might as well go right to the source.</i><p> Heh. Seems the Libertarians just might have a chance. Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:49:25 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#18 Okay, I've looked into this <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayoral_administration_of_Dennis_Kucinich">Cleveland</a> thing. (His two years as mayor of Cleveland appear to be his only qualification to be president.) Some excerpts from the Wikipedia ar Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:18:42 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#17 This could be the ultimate test for those who believe that campaign war chests and spending money buy elections by themselves. Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:09:17 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#16 Huh. Maybe I should run. I think that <a href="http://www.totalgymdirect.com/">Chuck</a> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcz0MLLizeY">Norris</a> has the celeb endorsement category <a href="http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/15/the-chuck-nor Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:33:46 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#15 Not entirely sure what Ms. Sue's link is to as I couldn't be bothered with recalling my (or plastic's) registration but you might as well go right <a href="http://www.ronpaul2008.com/">to the source</a>. The man raise over $6 million <a href="http://ap.goo Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:27:46 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#14 Maybe you'd want to <a href="http://www.freetimes.com/stories/15/9/the-mafia-plot-to-kill-dennis-kucinich">ask the people of Cleveland</a>. Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:22:35 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#13 It's registration only. Got another link or could you post an excerpt of the pertinent parts? Sorry. Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:02:00 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#12 <i>The genius of Ron Paul's campaign is that libertarian ideas are being raised prominently on the internet and finding welcome reception. The next generation of power brokers will be wired and much like Ayn Rand's objectivism shaped a generation of Fed po Sun, 16 Dec 2007 10:54:34 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#11 I, for one, also question their "Top 3" candidates. If I was the LP (perhaps they do not have the money for this) I would put together a search committee to find the best people from within their own party to run and then plead with them to consider a try Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:16:21 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#10 When we last saw the Libertarian Party, they nominated Michael Badnarik for President in 2004.  Michael Badnarik's previous greatest political achievement was that he was <a href="http://www.plastic.com/comments.html;sid=04/10/08/07060680;cid=5">"elec Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:58:31 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#9 <i>I find it frustrating/annoying that Ron Paul's ideas are written off as crazy while other 'serious' candidates you mention who advocate everything from creationism (Richardson) to flag burning amendments to the constitution(Clinton) get a pass.</i><p>I Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:32:35 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#8 I have no idea what you're talking about. Who says he saved $195 million? Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:58:10 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#7 <i> While Ron Paul's candidacy has always been a long shot (any person which seeks massive change to an organization always has an uphill struggle) , what I find reassuring is that despite a solid stream of articles by the press (when they bother to cover Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:43:29 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#6 Saving the people of Cleveland $195 million over two decades by resisting privatization of the public utilities while he was mayor was very fiscally responsible. Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:20:23 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#5 <blockquote><i>As a Kucinich booster...who isn't for fiscal responsibility..?</i></blockquote>According to his campaign website, Kucinich isn't for fiscal responsibility. But then, judging by his position on other issues, he's a complete wingnut, so I gues Sat, 15 Dec 2007 09:25:27 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#4 A few articles have run recently (both here and on Plastic) on the GOP crackup between the economic conservatives and the religious conservatives. Libertarians have a window of opportunity to 'mainstream' their views by creating a new voting bloc with the Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:48:11 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#3 <i><br> I have no idea if Ron Paul is going to get any votes, though.   How many people really support him? And will they show up to vote?</i><p> Ace,<br> I find it frustrating/annoying that Ron Paul's ideas are written off as crazy while other 'serio Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:34:15 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#2 Well, I think he could win California. He won a <a href="http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-releases/46/ron-paul-wins-republican-party-straw-poll-in-fresno/">Fresno</a> straw poll and they canceled the <a href="http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/SF_Straw_Poll Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:59:57 EST http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/12/13/2282/6856#1 As a Kucinich booster, I was naturally inclined to take interest in Rep. Paul's candidacy when it was announced--I'm always fascinated by "second-tier" candidates with fervent supporters.  I wasn't old enough to vote in 1988, so it took actual researc Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:13:55 EST string http://www.treesandthings.com/search/