Decline In Teen Suicide Rates Comes To Early End (Trees And Things)

tomc: Re: Suicide is subconscious group self-regulation

Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:55:42 EST

Hard Core!

nmiguy: Re: Correlation, Causation and Darwinism

Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:03:56 EST

So you're saying the stupid, defective, disaffected, socially outcast among us have an evolutionalry check to cause suicide in some dawrwinian evolutionary advance to naturally cull teh herd of the less worthy to breed and pass on progeny?

That's

nmiguy: Re: blame bush?

Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:01:17 EST

What's the point for young people to go on living? Bush is just going to send them over to the desert to get killed. Be better off dying in your own bed room, surrounded by your favorite Marilyn Manson posters and Soundgarden cd's...

nmiguy: Re: Suicide is subconscious group self-regulation

Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:59:12 EST

What is the prize for winning? A loaded gun? Heaven forbid!

tomc: Re: Suicide is subconscious group self-regulation

Wed, 14 Feb 2007 01:41:41 EST

So far mine is the only comment rated on this thread! Woohoo! I win!!!

Steve Urkel: Re: Correlation, Causation and Darwinism

Wed, 14 Feb 2007 01:22:16 EST

Interesting. How does that fit with the seeming geographic correlation? One possibility relates to 'paternal investment theory'. There is less paternal investment in warmer climates than cold ones, so acting depressed has less of a payoff.

Since t

wetkarma: Re: Correlation, Causation and Darwinism

Wed, 14 Feb 2007 01:03:45 EST

I read an article earlier today (again too lazy to find it) about a researcher speculating that depression is a social cue in order to gain sympathy/reaction from family. Thus even in young people depression would have an evolutionary value i.e. gett

Steve Urkel: Re: Correlation, Causation and Darwinism

Wed, 14 Feb 2007 00:26:54 EST

I'm sure we could look up some research. But where's the fun in that? My imprecise thoughts:

That old people and males have higher suicide rates fit what you would expect from a darwinian perspective.

Depression to a certain amount can be adaptationa

tomc: Suicide is subconscious group self-regulation

Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:02:18 EST

I think it's simply a group-internalized culling of the herd.

permazorch: Re: Decline In Teen Suicide Rates Comes To Early E

Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:21:52 EST

I blame Nickelback. - rEvolution inAction
I blame the Republicans. - Thalia
I blame Aqua Teen Hunger Force. - nmiguy
I blame the Heathers. - Dvandom
I blame video games. - zyxwvutsr
I blame zyxwvutsr. I mean, come on, video gam

Lou: Re: Chicken or the egg?

Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:55:24 EST
Emo

shane: Re: Chicken or the egg?

Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:28:13 EST
emo?

Lou: Chicken or the egg?

Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:26:36 EST
I blame the unholy alliance between emo and goth...but did these two spring from Bush, or did the kids turn to it after Bush became prez?
Damn you, Dashboard Confessional...Damn you, Robert Smith

shane: blame bush?

Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:00:28 EST
Could it be the depressing political landscape that teens are growing up in? :)

wetkarma: Correlation, Causation and Darwinism

Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:54:00 EST
It seems speculative to say that the black box labeling might somehow be responsible for the suicide uptick. Certainly one can just as equally blame the success of American Idol to the cultural landscape.
I'm wondering however -- is this altogether a b