What The Doctor Won't Discuss. (Trees And Things)

Lou: Re: Leeches and now...maggots!

Sat, 10 Feb 2007 09:53:47 EST

I meant to add...be careful of the pictures in the link...not for the weak of stomach.

Lou: Leeches and now...maggots!

Sat, 10 Feb 2007 09:52:36 EST

Actually, these creepy crawlers are making a comeback.

Thalia: Re: Put some herbs on it

Sat, 10 Feb 2007 04:20:12 EST

I've never had anyone but alternative doctors take a good look at my hands. That is the type of diagnosis of your overall health that I usually miss in conventional doctors. Your doctor buddies sound pretty cool.

And I do agree that m

charlies: Re: Put some herbs on it

Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:33:44 EST

"...if you have a chronic condition...Western medicine has difficulties properly diagnosing it."

I disagree, Thalia. I hang out with a couple of docs, and we talk about this stuff a lot. Most of the complaints against "Western" medicine come from

Steve Urkel: Re: Put some herbs on it

Fri, 9 Feb 2007 18:53:17 EST

"But if you have a chronic condition of any sort, you will find Western medicine has difficulties properly diagnosing it"

The more chronic your condition the more foolish it is to have some charlatan attempting to treat than a real doctor. But it's a fr

Thalia: Re: Put some herbs on it

Fri, 9 Feb 2007 17:26:27 EST

I didn't say western medicine is a hoax. I wouldn't go anywhere else if I had a broken bone. But if you have a chronic condition of any sort, you will find Western medicine has difficulties properly diagnosing it. And herbs do work on you

3fingerspointback: Chemical Death Medicine worked for me

Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:31:47 EST

Six cycles of CHOP and 40 Gray to the chest, and six years later I'm in better shape than before I had lymphoma. If I'd followed the advice of the chiropractors I was seeing for the pain in my back, I would most likely be in a wheelchair and/or dead

Steve Urkel: Which no one could've predicted

Thu, 8 Feb 2007 23:28:54 EST

"since the alternative treatment he was pursuing hasn't worked."

To be fair, most healers and Swamis don't claim smearing herbs on yourself is 100% effective.

Steve Urkel: Re: What The Doctor Won't Discuss.

Thu, 8 Feb 2007 23:22:41 EST

"The three who went the holistic, naturopathic route are all alive today. The other 5 or so are all dead. "

Well, that proves it.

Steve Urkel: Put some herbs on it

Thu, 8 Feb 2007 23:19:58 EST

"If you happen into a difficult to diagnose situation, you can repeat this cycle dozens of times"

That's an outrage. Why waste time trying to figure out what the problem is by doing a bunch of fancy tests based on science when you could've been smearing

Thalia: Re: What The Doctor Won't Discuss.

Thu, 8 Feb 2007 23:10:02 EST

Clearly I need to find a better set of providers. My doctors are very good at what they do, but they do tend to perscribe the $1/pill version instead of the generics.

Thalia

Thalia: Re: What The Doctor Won't Discuss.

Thu, 8 Feb 2007 23:08:44 EST

Ah, I've never encounted an actual pyramid scheme, outside of the Herbalife/Avon/Tupperware folks.

There are a lot of good doctors, and I like my doctors too. But the feedback system is screwed up badly, because the patient is not the customer. &n

coquito: Re: What The Doctor Won't Discuss.

Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:14:21 EST

Conventional medicine is much closer to a pyramid scheme in terms of pricing and structure.

While your criticism of conventional medicine may be fair to some extent, what I'm talking about here is an actual pyramid scheme. I'm not maligning acupu

port1080: Re: What The Doctor Won't Discuss.

Thu, 8 Feb 2007 21:52:18 EST

The holistic/mainstream thing is a touchy issue though.

Here's to that - of the people in my life who have had cancer of one form or another, the two who did holistic treatments both died, but only after getting their hopes raised and then hav

dzetetes: Re: What The Doctor Won't Discuss.

Thu, 8 Feb 2007 21:39:26 EST

Another doctor said that physicians opposed to emergency contraception ought not be working in emergency rooms.

Physicians opposed on the basis of personal beliefs to safe, effective, approved treatments that are the best option for a given patie

dzetetes: Re: What The Doctor Won't Discuss.

Thu, 8 Feb 2007 21:32:49 EST

You go to your doctor, who orders tests. You pay for the tests, and then go back to the doctor who referred you (who also gets money from the testing place), for analysis. The testing place doesn't give you the results directly.

My pr

Thalia: Re: What The Doctor Won't Discuss.

Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:41:53 EST

Conventional medicine is much closer to a pyramid scheme in terms of pricing and structure. You go to your doctor, who orders tests. You pay for the tests, and then go back to the doctor who referred you (who also gets money from the testing pl

Thalia: Re: What The Doctor Won't Discuss.

Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:36:19 EST

Let me get this straight. There is a percentage of doctors who will hide treatment options from you because of their own beliefs, and will not tell you about these beliefs? I don't want to know what religion my doctor is, and I'm sure she cares

coquito: Re: What The Doctor Won't Discuss.

Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:19:25 EST

I just have to pick up on the cancer thread here quickly. Just a couple of days ago I found out a friend of ours has cancer. She's 31. Six months ago, we found out another friend had cancer, she's 30. In the past... 5, 6 years, at least 6 of our friends, a

thefadd: Re: What The Doctor Won't Discuss.

Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:00:17 EST

After two apparently non-life threatening but highly annoying medical conditions in the past 7 seven years I have basically given up on modern mainstream American medicine. I have some luxury here, in that I am fully insured through my employer so should a