Can Overweight, Older Women Sell Stuff In a Sexy Way? A Little Birdy Says So. (Trees And Things)

zyxwvutsr: Re: Age limit.

Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:19:27 EST

Ah, got it. I didn't see any women on that webpage until I enabled Javascript.

ms sue: Re: Age limit.

Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:25:25 EST

I'm looking at the women in the "real beauty" link. I would estimate they range from high 40s to mid or upper 60s.

zyxwvutsr: Re: Age limit.

Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:36:59 EST

How old do you think they are?

charlies: Re: Age limit.

Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:11:38 EST

Thanks, Slothrop. I agree. By sixty ALL the chicks look okay to me, and most of 'em look great. Fading eyesight is like beer googles.

ms sue: Re: Age limit.

Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:54:23 EST

I don't know. I saw older women. Reread the title of this write-up. :-)

zyxwvutsr: Re: Age limit.

Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:26:48 EST

"Hey, I may not be a 20-something, but..."

Are we looking at the same ad?

ms sue: Re: Age limit.

Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:08:56 EST

Sure. Companies count on that disconnect.

But don't forget the age factor also. The target audience, at least for this particular campaign, is older women who will see the ad and think, "Hey, I may not be a 20-something, but I can still be attractive."

zyxwvutsr: Re: Age limit.

Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:06:22 EST

Who is the target audience for this ad campaign?

The target audience is women who think, "if I could just lose 5 lbs., I could look like that."

Even though they really need to lose 15-20.

nmiguy: Re: Age limit.

Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:02:02 EST

Ha ha! I have not seen that commercial but it sounds like a riot! Last night my wife and I were watching television and saw a commercial that made us laugh,

This one.

ms sue: Re: Age limit.

Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:57:21 EST

T-Mobile's "Hot Friends": http://www.myfaves.com/tv-commercials.html

ms sue: Re: Age limit.

Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:53:20 EST

But I can never recall seeing ANY advertisements for elderly fashions. So there is NO market for elderly models that are scantily clad. Dove seems to have tapped a hidden market, a market for a product (soap) that everyone uses...

nmiguy: Re: Age limit.

Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:55:18 EST

Good point, Sue. The standards are variable to a degree as per what audience you are marketing toward. I suppose the question is, how variable should that standard be? I mean, if the Golden Girls are going to advertise for Polydent, Vitam

ms sue: Re: Age limit.

Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:38:04 EST

There is one hitch to that comeback.

Who is the target audience for this ad campaign? Is it the guy who wants only to see only a vision of someone he'd like to bed? Or is it women, of all stripes, who are the ones who will decide whether or not to buy

keta: Re: Age limit.

Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:44:05 EST

Thanks for the reasoned comeback, nmiguy.

nmiguy: Re: Age limit.

Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:25:38 EST

Your final point IS well taken. I mean I totally understand the concept of "beauty is in the eyes of the beholder". But this article is about older and heavier women doing nude ads to hock some soap. We're not talking about the fringe ele

wetkarma: Re: Age limit.

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 20:15:56 EST

I think you are conflating sexy with beauty.

thefadd: Re: Beauty.eye.beholder

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:39:29 EST

but it seems that girls got prettier than "back in the day"

Personally, I would attribute this mainly to fashion. I doubt something physically changed where kids these days are suddenly more attractive than their parents. I mean, hair was ju

thefadd: Re: What This Discussion Needs

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:33:35 EST

I guess beauty does have a beauty limit.

Thalia: Re: Age limit.

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:12:48 EST

I presume this means that you intend to upgrade to a newer model when your significant other hits the magic age when she is no longer beautiful to you? Or will s/he remain beautiful in your eyes despite aging, and possibly putting on a few pounds?

keta: Re: Age limit.

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:32:26 EST

I know telling the truth makes me a target here, keta called me obtuse and even asked if my own grannies were beautiful.

You're a good guy, nmiguy, so I'm going to try and make my point one final time.

You've been all over this thread telling

Lou: Beauty.eye.beholder

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:05:32 EST

It seems that the discussion has settled down to a sort of western front Beauty vs. Hotness trench warfare. To paraphrase the judge with an erection, I don't know what beauty is, but I know it when I see it.

As a teacher, I had many opportunities

nmiguy: Re: Age limit.

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 15:32:59 EST

Okay, I too have seen the nudist thing. And I saw some okay older heavier women. But I also have worked in an operating room, and I have seen MANY naked people of all ages and sizes. Many of them were not fit to look at, they were there f

nmiguy: Re: What This Discussion Needs

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 15:06:52 EST

thefadd, the models you show, they are all right. They all (even the kinda bigger one) are pretty. I am not turned off by any of them and in real life I would probably date any one of those women. But I don't consider them drop dead gorge

nmiguy: Re: Age limit.

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:57:12 EST

Are your grandmothers beautiful?

Nope, they are dead. Hey they may have been gorgeous. My maternal grandmother had 16 babies in her lifetime. My paternal grandmother had 13 kids. Let's just say that many kids and the wear

thefadd: Re: Age limit.

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:11:12 EST

It's true. I don't know how many people take the time to admire the human form. I went to a nudist colony when I was in college to "see some naked chicks." There were a couple of course, but I was most struck by the beauty in a nude, round 50+ woman.

keta: Re: Age limit.

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:11:05 EST

Your obtuseness sometimes astounds, nmiguy.

Here's a question.

Are your grandmothers beautiful?

nmiguy: crap on your own face???

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:10:34 EST

Cripes, either there's an epidemic of hyperbole around here, or you have some nasty scat fetish.

Nothing against the elder;y women in Dove's campaign, but one lady got some hanging belly flaps and another looks like she's eaten a few too many ger

thefadd: What This Discussion Needs

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:50:35 EST

Is more examples:

http://toole.blogspot.com/uploaded_images/050801_arc_doveAdStacy_ex-767334.jpg - Yes

thefadd: Re: Age limit.

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:46:15 EST

Proving once again that beauty is in the eye of the (in a tip of the hat to our other running thread) beer holder. I would rather crap on my own face than be trapped in a room with Kate Winslet for five minutes and I would certainly do any of the MILFs in

nmiguy: Re: Age limit.

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:46:04 EST

And that, my friend, is well and truly one ugly outlook.

You're welcome, my friend. You see, ugliness has no age limit either. But you'll never hear someone say "Man, that's ONE ugly baby!" Because babies and youth are co

keta: Re: Age limit.

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:54:51 EST

Bog's drooping balls, nmiguy, you sometimes perch yourself so far out on tenuous limb that it's hard not pick you off like the saggiest of fruit.

As has been pointed out to you elsewhere here, your insistence on equating "beauty" with "I want to fuck it

T Slothrop: Re: Age limit.

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:46:38 EST

Of course "beautiful" isn't the same thing as hot. What you're talking about is hot. In that case, there's not only an age and weight limit, but an age and weight range.

True. However I came to the conclusion long ago tha

nmiguy: Aging sucks

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:21:26 EST

Reading your post Mayorbob, has made a difference in my outlook. You seem so...attractive all of a sudden. Your sense of humor, your attitude, your balance and your overall demeanor, damn, Mayorbob, you're HOT! You're like Paris Hilton HO

coquito: Re: Age limit.

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:20:59 EST

There's something real scary about a huge person shouting "GET IN MY BELLY!" and "I want my baby back baby back baby back..."

LOL... Oh god... this was on last night and I caught the scene where Fat Bastard is laying in bed with Heather "Golden"

nmiguy: Re: Age limit.

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:11:46 EST

I can agree with you that there can be some beautiful people that are heavy or a bit older. But I am saying there is also a limit to that. I have a few friends who are a bit heavy, and they are beautiful. But if they were to gain 100 lbs,

coquito: Re: Age limit.

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 11:08:47 EST

I must be some kind of freak, but I've seen some very beautiful old and overweight people. In fact, I'm kind of fascinated by "real people" portraits, the kinds of portraits that focus on the kinds of faces and bodies that we wouldn't normally use to sell

MayorBob: Will You Still Need Me, Will You Still Feed Me?

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:05:07 EST

Sir Paul said it best about 40 years ago. I guess he gets the answer to his question. Linda, had she lived, probably would have said yes. Heather told him no.

At t

nmiguy: Re: Age limit.

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:00:14 EST

Yeah they al-ight. But c'mon, none of them are Gisele Bunchen.

You know who has real beauty? Kate Winslet. She's comfortable in her curves, in her skin. She's a lovely person. Dove should have HER strip down and hock

T Slothrop: Re: Age limit.

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:48:29 EST

I agree that there are limits to what almost anyone can call "beautiful". However I must admit that as a 46-year-old male, a couple of the chicks in that ad looked pretty damn fine to me.

nmiguy: Age limit.

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 08:21:59 EST

Beauty does have an age limit, and a weight limit. There comes a point where a person is too damn fat to be beutiful or too damn old to be beutiful. This limit may vary slightly, there are exceptional beauties that remain hot into advanced age