Guns are fun (Trees And Things)

humorlesscretin: Re: guns for hire

Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:43:12 EST

Have you ever shot any non-Glock .40's? I sometimes think because Glocks have a steep grip-angle for some people lots of recoil gets transfered into the soft part of the hand.

I haven't shot any other .40s, no. I fired a .45 enough to "know

Steve Urkel: Re: guns for hire

Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:50:10 EST

9mm is for sissies. Have you ever shot any non-Glock .40's? I sometimes think because Glocks have a steep grip-angle for some people lots of recoil gets transfered into the soft part of the hand. I knew a guy who shoots .357 revolvers all the time and he f

Ozyman: Re: guns for hire

Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:49:27 EST

There is a law that dangerous cleaners and medicines have child safety tops (or I assume there is a law - since every product comes like this).

humorlesscretin: Re: guns for hire

Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:08:24 EST

Because of pressure from the Feds lots of small gun dealers got their supplies cut off, that seems to have affected prices too.

Exactly. Exacerbated by being out in the boonies, where if you can't shoot a "bar" with it, most places don't ca

humorlesscretin: Re: Gun Storage

Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:30:56 EST

Perhaps it could be bolted to the wall? I have lived in drywalled apartments where I needed to put shelves up...when I moved it just spackled the holes, threw on some "landlord off-white" paint, and went on my merry way.

That could work...

Steve Urkel: Re: guns for hire

Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:46:36 EST

I'd forgotten how expensive things got during the ban. Because of pressure from the Feds lots of small gun dealers got their supplies cut off, that seems to have affected prices too.

All I own now days is a little SIG P228. It's a fun piece, that

Lou: Re: Gun Storage

Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:11:33 EST

Hey HC, I hope this does work for you. Perhaps it could be bolted to the wall? I have lived in drywalled apartments where I needed to put shelves up...when I moved it just spackled the holes, threw on some "landlord off-white" paint, and went o

humorlesscretin: Re: guns for hire

Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:07:27 EST

Just curious, what's your $800 gun? Target pistol?

A Glock 22 with a sight upgrade, 2 15 round magazines and all the miscellaneous junk a first time gun owner needs, back during the ban when the 15 round mags were expensive as hell. (Now yo

humorlesscretin: Re: Gun Storage

Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:05:55 EST

What's wrong with one of these?

It's a wee bit light at 64 lbs... I'm a renter, I can't floor-mount the thing (otherwise I'd buy one of these) and I'm loath to trust a g

Steve Urkel: Re: guns for hire

Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:34:34 EST

Why is there no law requiring household cleaners or medicines be kept in safes? Children cand and do get into those and die from it.

"1 $800 gun"

Just curious, what's your $800 gun? Target pistol?

Lou: Gun Storage

Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:57:55 EST

I'm not in a position to spend thousands on a proper 500+ pound gun safe (nor am I inclined to do so to store 1 $800 gun),

What's wrong with one of I do worry about the insane guy, maybe because I know one of the lawyers who were killed by a crazy ex-client with a

Lou: Kicking Lizard Ass

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 23:02:21 EST

I was around 8 when I saw this. 8 year olds don't have to suspend reality when they watch tv because there is no reality. I was relieved to see Kirk kick the lizard guy's ass...but NOT kill him. How cool was that?

But I still don't kno

dzetetes: Re: guns for hire

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 22:33:08 EST

It looks like you have to have a type of Federal Firearms License to manufacture firearms and ammunition.

tomc: Re: related quirk

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 22:27:59 EST

Could you carry a stick of dynamite with a lit fuse?

Yes, but only for short periods of time.

zyxwvutsr: Re: related quirk

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 22:23:20 EST

...you could legally carry, among other things, large fixed blade knives

Could you carry a stick of dynamite with a lit fuse? That's a hell of a weapon.

zyxwvutsr: Re: WTF?

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 22:08:05 EST

...bonus points for referencing one of my favorite Star Trek episodes...but why?

Why is it one of your favorite episodes? I have no idea. (Maybe you like guns?)

Steve Urkel: Re: related quirk

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 22:07:11 EST

You used to be able to get a "Concealed Weapons Permit", which meant you could legally carry, among other things, large fixed blade knives. At some point they restricted it to just handguns.

Lou: WTF?

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 22:00:59 EST

Ok, bonus points for referencing one of my favorite Star Trek episodes...but why?

Steve Urkel: Re: guns for hire

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 22:00:27 EST

That's funny (and in a sense, aren't we all in a life or death battle with our own metaphysical lizardman?), but it makes me wonder. While it's legal to buy guns and ammo from neighbor, I'm not sure if it's legal for me to manufacture a gun and gun powder

zyxwvutsr: Re: guns for hire

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 21:53:20 EST

Obviously this doesn't apply if you buy a used handgun from an indvidual, or to the purchase of shotguns and rifles

What if you were kidnapped by a pacifist alien race with far superior technology, and were purposely stranded

Steve Urkel: Re: guns for hire

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:45:55 EST

If you purchase a handgun from a licensed dealer you only have to pass the Federal background check and wait five days. Obviously this doesn't apply if you buy a used handgun from an indvidual, or to the purchase of shotguns and rifles.

Unlike more res

tomc: Re: guns for hire

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:54:39 EST

Something like 50% of guns used in crime were obtained through burglary or theft.

I find it shameful that in This Great Country, criminals cannot afford to buy guns, and must therefore resort to theft.

coquito: Re: guns for hire

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:36:30 EST

I don't mean this to be snarky, though it may sound like it, but are you required (in your state or any) to pass any written or practical (physical?) tests to show you understand gun safety and can actually use one safely? Is there any kind of insurance ne

Steve Urkel: Re: guns for hire

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:23:23 EST

So you do think there is an individual right to own guns?

"I'm worry about the insane guy"

In my state you don't have to prove you are sane to buy a gun, or get a CPP, and it seems to work OK. You don't have to prove you are sane to get a drivers lic

Steve Urkel: Re: Guns are ghun

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:15:13 EST

Owning "assault weapons" was never illegal.

The AWB defined certain guns as "assault weapons", then banned banned the manufacture and sale of new guns that met this definion, as well as all magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds. As I mentione

Thalia: Re: guns for hire

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:40:41 EST

My big problem isn't guns per se, it is the lack of regulations on who can own a gun and how that person stores that gun. I'm not worried about a sane individual owning one or more guns which he or she stores sufficiently safely that neither children

rEvolution inAction: Re: guns for hire

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:11:12 EST

We don't agree very often, but you've got an amazing point regarding armed bodyguards. It's no real surprise, the rich control everything.. so why not the firepower?

rEvolution inAction: Re: Guns are ghun

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:05:59 EST

I was under the impression that they were banned specifically in the mid-late 80's but I cannot find any source for this. I'm going to conclude that I was misinformed.

rEvolution inAction: Re: Guns are fun

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:02:18 EST

Machine guns aren't really man-portable in a non-squad sense.. but yes, we need access to those as well. I'm serious about what I meant here. I believe that we need access to all the weaponry needed to fight a modern military.. but am opposed to handguns (

Steve Urkel: guns for hire

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:20:35 EST

I think many, if not most, of those who argue the 2nd Amendment is a collective right did not conclude this after examing the historical record. They want to impose a ban guns, and seized upon and twisted the "well regulated" phrase as a way to do this.

Steve Urkel: Guns are ghun

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:18:46 EST

"The second amendment states that the reason people need to bear arms is in order to have a militia"

As this ruling points out, that isn't the case.

"now its only AK's that are illegal"

The assault weapons ban expired. And ownership of AK's was ne

Steve Urkel: Re: Guns are fun

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:06:29 EST

That aside, do you think the judges in this case did properly decide the scope of the 2nd Amendment?

Steve Urkel: Re: Go For the Hat Trick Gordo...

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:03:40 EST

I may do that. It's difficult for me not rant about injustice when the subject of smokes comes up though.

arromdee: Re: Guns are fun

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:17:12 EST

It's hard to tell when people are being snarky because they're making a joke but don't care about the facts, or whether they're being snarky as a way of making a point.

There is no such thing as an "assault weapon" in any meaningful sense. The inf

pO157: It had to be said:

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 10:06:35 EST

I don't own a gun; my ancestors were Quakers!

humorlesscretin: Re: Guns are fun

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 05:19:42 EST

The SUB is easier to park.

rEvolution inAction: Re: Guns are fun

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 02:47:23 EST

Why a SUB? Why not an SUV?

Thalia: Re: Guns are fun

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:21:26 EST

The dissent gives the Supreme Court, which has been ducking this issue for 70-some years a nice little out:

Although "the Constitution is in effect . . . in the District,"
O'Donoghue v. United States, 289 U.S. 516, 541 (1933) , as it
is in the S

tomc: Re: Guns are fun

Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:10:24 EST

I tend to think more strategically.

I believe we have the right to bear nuclear attack submarines.

rEvolution inAction: Re: Guns are fun

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 23:34:00 EST

I was all for the ban on handguns but against the ban on assault weapons. The second amendment states that the reason people need to bear arms is in order to have a militia. An assault weapon would be helpful in cases where the militia would be needed (now

tomc: Re: Go For the Hat Trick Gordo...

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 22:22:05 EST

Given we're talking about liquor, guns and smokes, maybe calling it a trifecta would be more appropriate.

rombuu: Go For the Hat Trick Gordo...

Fri, 9 Mar 2007 21:51:29 EST

Liquor, check.
Guns, check.

I look forward to your upcoming story on smokes.