Imus Suspended Amid Outrage (Trees And Things)

MayorBob: Re: "Jogging Mishap" [!]

Sun, 15 Apr 2007 19:33:34 EST

Well, it was McGreevey I was referring to Ken. But, in honor of his proud admission that he was a "gay American" I just left it at calling him gay.

zyxwvutsr: "Jogging Mishap" [!]

Sun, 15 Apr 2007 18:56:15 EST

The second one turned out to be gay

The homo governor broke a leg, too:

...McGreevey suffered a broken femur in his

MayorBob: Corzine is not the third straight NJ governor ... Sun, 15 Apr 2007 17:47:17 EST ... to break his leg. The second one turned out to be gay. Steve Urkel: Re: When They Say, "Break A Leg" Sun, 15 Apr 2007 16:14:29 EST At least he wasn't smoking. That's all that counts these days. I was taken aback by "special needs driver", then I remembered that mentally retarded kids at my high school drove. They can't be any more dangerous on the road than old people or teenagers Steve Urkel: Re: CNBWha? Sun, 15 Apr 2007 16:08:23 EST True. Though CNBC's show with that James Cramer guy is amazing. An insane person trapped in a room (or is he on a sattelite, like in MST3K?), screaming and pushing buttons. Unwatchable, but amazing. zyxwvutsr: Re: The Fat Lady Just Finished Singing. Sun, 15 Apr 2007 09:40:03 EST So saying "that so blonde of her" or "that irish redhead..she's a fiery one" -- all racial insults?No, because blonde-white or redhead-white are not generally recognized as races, but African is. (Race being mostly a social uncarved block: Not Just ESPN Sun, 15 Apr 2007 09:29:59 EST In a way, all sports became connected in a general universe a couple years after ESPN rolled around- or even more so than before- so that baseball announcers, say, feel comfortable talking about football, racing, basketball, what have you. Add thefadd: When They Say, "Break A Leg" In NJ... Sun, 15 Apr 2007 01:21:31 EST He's the third straight NJ governor to break his leg while in office. And he wasn't wearing his safety belt. And his accident was caused by a "special needs driver." The jokes about my home state are only beginning... thefadd: CNBWha? Sun, 15 Apr 2007 01:17:25 EST *I* love how Jackson pretends anyone watches MSNBC or CNBC. thefadd: Re: The Phrase That Pays. Sun, 15 Apr 2007 01:15:34 EST Morning shows and their "contests" are dangerous things and should simply be labeled as such and left alone. I mean, Imus never killed anyone. thefadd: Re: radio. suckers never play me. Sun, 15 Apr 2007 01:13:28 EST I can't stand talk radio from NPR to Radio America to morning shows and so on down the dial. But Mark & Brian on KLOS here in LA are almost listenable when I've exchausted all other musical op thefadd: Re: Seconded Sun, 15 Apr 2007 01:09:23 EST This is an extremely astute comment that has yet to be brought up in most of the conversations I've seen on this topic. My conclusion to this point was that the Rutgers team was seen as extremely sympathetic because of their youth and I had not yet thought uncarved block: Seconded Sat, 14 Apr 2007 11:49:36 EST I distrust this notion that Jackson and Sharpton somehow have these magic wands that can get them results. They complain a lot, but lightning only strikes once in a while-- when some other factor provides enough juice to force the issue. In th MayorBob: Re: The Fat Lady Just Finished Singing. Fri, 13 Apr 2007 16:45:46 EST I think a more compelling reason for Imus losing his gig is that the money walked out on him. When the first group of advertisers announced they were pulling out on him I thought there was a chance he might get the two week suspension lengthened to t thefadd: Re: The Fat Lady Just Finished Singing. Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:17:13 EST Imus's firing has brought me to the sad conclusion that there simply is no "there" there. My gf says she's happy it happened because white people "have gotten too comfortable" and "think they can say anything." Sorry but I thought that was the point of Ame wetkarma: Re: The Fat Lady Just Finished Singing. Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:09:29 EST The use of the term "nappy-headed" was clearly meant as a mocking insult. (I mean, I hope it's clear. Do you think it's reasonable to take it any other way?) I have no trouble seeing that a mocking insult that points out a racial attribute is a racial i zyxwvutsr: Re: The Fat Lady Just Finished Singing. Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:08:51 EST The use of the term "nappy-headed" was clearly meant as a mocking insult. (I mean, I hope it's clear. Do you think it's reasonable to take it any other way?) I have no trouble seeing that a mocking insult that points out a racial attribute is a racial insu wetkarma: Re: The Fat Lady Just Finished Singing. Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:54:17 EST You've never noticed how many African-American women spend a tremendous amount of time, effort, and money making their hair straight (that is, non-nappy)? Er women in general spend an inordinate amount of time on beauty efforts which seem po zyxwvutsr: Re: The Fat Lady Just Finished Singing. Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:46:12 EST You've never noticed how many African-American women spend a tremendous amount of time, effort, and money making their hair straight (that is, non-nappy)? wetkarma: Re: The Fat Lady Just Finished Singing. Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:16:20 EST What is it that you're missing about this? The part where the term "nappy-headed" equates to being a racial slur. Maybe its because a) I didn't grow up here and b) its not as widely known as say 'nigger' but I have a completely different cul ms sue: Re: The Fat Lady Just Finished Singing. Fri, 13 Apr 2007 09:58:41 EST I have not seen a single article/comment which explains to me why the comment is perceived as racist. A non-U.S. Plastician had never heard of the word "nappy." So he seemed to sincerely question what the problem was with all this. It took a bit wetkarma: Re: The Fat Lady Just Finished Singing. Fri, 13 Apr 2007 09:11:53 EST This whole case for the first time has me feeling completely disconnected from American culture. I have not seen a single article/comment which explains to me why the comment is perceived as racist. I am also bewildered why this particular sexist comment w Steve Urkel: BREAKING Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:19:16 EST New Jersey Governor John Corzine was this critically injured when his motorcade crashed - en route to meeting with Imus and the Rutgers Nappy Ho's. This is what words of hate lead to. P Steve Urkel: radio. suckers never play me. Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:02:03 EST Could you share your thoughts on the 'zoo crew' format? Thank you. Lou: That didn't take long Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:48:20 EST Here's a thought...anyone who claims to be (insert name here) In The Morning should be shot on sight. Who are you? I'm "Gary in the morning!" POW POW! This is why I don't listen to anything but my own mix cds on the way to work. If I list tomc: Re: Imus Suspended Amid Outrage Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:02:50 EST I would say that Imus' comment was obnoxious. I'm glad he apologized. I'm glad he was suspended. Not sure he had to get fired, but that's just arguing about degrees. Now, what about all the other "personalities" and "artists" who say t MayorBob: The Phrase That Pays. Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:59:11 EST Here's a shocker, early morning drive time DJ up in the Poconos gets the ax. His offense? He ran a contest called the "Phrase That Pays" of Lou: good freakin' riddance Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:43:34 EST See yah Don...maybe next we can get rid of the rest of the lowest common denominator bullshit artists out there and maybe...JUST MAYBE start cleaning up our collective unconscious Hah! Who am I kidding? All this does is allow another network Steve Urkel: Whatever happened to....? Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:19:12 EST When I run across a show that offends me, which is pretty much all the fucking time, I change the channel. Whatever happened to doing that? "Jackson also asked that this chance be taken to "desegregate the media" adding: "No black hosts on MSNBC," he sa thefadd: Re: Perhaps I'll be tossing gas on the fire here.. Thu, 12 Apr 2007 17:22:18 EST Down in history with Jimmy the Greek. MayorBob: The Fat Lady Just Finished Singing. Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:44:24 EST After MSNBC pulled the plug on the simulcast of his radio show, people were speculating whether Imus would just come back after two weeks and pick up where he left off. Well, he won't be picking up anytime soon as apologized enough. thefadd: Re: it's hard out there for a pimp Thu, 12 Apr 2007 01:21:21 EST that's a ridiculous assertion. we have no idea what music the nappy headed ho's on rutger's basketball team listen to. pattonbt: Let the Market Decide Thu, 12 Apr 2007 00:52:00 EST In my viewing of the set up comments and 'statement' itself, theres no doubt that a) it was racist, b) it was sexist and c) it was done in an attempt to 'be cool' and to shock. As far as what happens to him, let his advertisers, listeners and stations d thefadd: Re: bong hits for jesus Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:24:56 EST I think it's a combination of multiple issues. First, I think it does have something to do with the fact that Rutgers lost (so there's a bit of piling on and more bad feelings in the first place) and that Rutgers is an urban school in the north east, which gerrymander: Re: it's hard out there for a pimp Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:04:10 EST I bow before your Web Fu, dzetetes. pO157: Perhaps I'll be tossing gas on the fire here... Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:41:46 EST So, why is a two week suspension deemed to be that much to pay for what Imus said? I'm also wondering what the rationale might be for those who voted "yes" in the poll that Imus' apology is enough. Well, I think the two w dzetetes: Re: it's hard out there for a pimp Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:39:16 EST Change "iPod" to "dance floor" and that's the setup for a Chris Rock routine. Behold! NSFW, unless you've got headphones or a really cool workplace. gerrymander: it's hard out there for a pimp Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:23:03 EST What I like is how Michelle Malkin has gone through the effort to post lyrics to the top rap songs out there, that many of these Rutgers Basketball players are probably listening to in their ipods. Change "iPod" to "dance floor" and that's the se ms sue: Re: bong hits for jesus Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:21:42 EST If my daughter gets a free ride to college and as a result has to contend with radio personalities calling her a "nappy headed ho", I won't be put out. Actually, I wasn't referring to Imus's lame comments. I was referring to yours: I also thin wetkarma: Re: bong hits for jesus Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:15:11 EST Oh, and btw, since I'm one to ask questions or make comments on a more personal level all the time anyway, here's hoping you'll feel the same way one day if a daughter of yours decides to try to be an athlete. If my daughter gets a free ride ms sue: Re: bong hits for jesus Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:06:01 EST I think women athletes get a far cushier ride than women scientists -- for one they get scholarships via Title IX entitlements far more easily than other women in college. I also think that as athletes, they are fair game for commentary ranging from "he gerrymander: Re: bong hits for jesus Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:47:33 EST Aren't there any white chixs on the team? Assuming the team's website is up to date, there are two. wetkarma: Re: bong hits for jesus Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:23:39 EST As for the comment being racist, I think it pretty well matches the definition, regardless of Imus's intent. I also don't think it's funny to insult the players' looks. Don't you think women athletes have a bit of an extra burden in that regard? Su uncarved block: Settling Scores Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:47:08 EST Nothing? Maybe, thought that would put it in the grand tradition of the Beltway, where the little shit trips up politicians far more often than anything serious. Been going in in Washington for centuries, and I doubt it will stop soon. &n nmiguy: Re: Imus Suspended Amid Outrage Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:30:46 EST I'm seeing marketing opportunities here. T-shirts that say "I'm a nappy headed ho". They should sell like hotcakes. nmiguy: Re: Good lord... Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:28:12 EST But Rombuu, racism DOES matter. People have gotten breathless and hyperbolic over Imus's stupid insensitive insult. Yes, Imus's crime isn't even the story now. The story is the outrage, and it feeds itself. And THAT is a big story. nmiguy: Imus learning to speak ghetto Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:08:27 EST Isn't it obvious? Don Imus was trying to broaden his experience and enrich his cultural awareness. He has obviously purchased any of the top ten hip hop albums on the charts and learned the appropriate vernacular to describe women. I mean thefadd: Re: Hitting Imus Where It Hurts. Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:40:52 EST Uh oh, if he loses Bigelow Tea, he's done for ;-) lol...makes you wonder about the people at Bigelow. Staples and Proctor & Gamble drop the guy but they're still "thinking about it." They must have become hardened at by the experience of multiple ms sue: Re: bong hits for jesus Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:44:47 EST Why should women athletes get a free ride/easier time vs. other public figures subject to similar levels of ridicule. I would have the same reaction to a similar comment about any public figure. As for the comment being racist, I think it pre rombuu: Good lord... Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:24:48 EST what a bunch to do about nothing. It makes me pine for the days of shark attacks, snakeheads, and Terri Schiavo on things that get media attention but really don't matter. zyxwvutsr: Re: Imus Suspended Amid Outrage Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:10:39 EST I guess it means he sort of agrees that Ms. Zurich remains a ho I'm sorry. Does that settle the matter? wetkarma: Re: bong hits for jesus Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:54:38 EST There most certainly would, for some of us who think that women athletes deserve better. Seriously? Why? Isn't the fact that they are athletes indicative that they are abnormal relative to the rest of the population? Why should women athle MayorBob: Re: Imus Suspended Amid Outrage Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:44:55 EST It was just Ken's way of saying Ms. Zurich certainly doesn't have nappy hair. I guess it means he sort of agrees that Ms. Zurich remains a ho. ms sue: Re: Imus Suspended Amid Outrage Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:42:06 EST I don't get it. wetkarma: Re: Finally, Is Anyone Surprised? Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:42:01 EST Maybe its because its early where I am -- but those comments strike me as marginally funny but not necessarily outre offensive. More to the point it seems to illustrate a pattern of taking potshots at everyone not juts minority. Is the man being accused of ms sue: Re: bong hits for jesus Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:41:20 EST I read the comment and translate "unattractive/poorly groomed women". Obviously if this is the correct translation, there wouldn't be an issue There most certainly would, for some of us who think that women athletes deserve better. BTW, I'm n wetkarma: bong hits for jesus Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:35:44 EST I don't get it. Is it the nappy-headed or the hos thats over the politically correct link? Perhaps the gestalt of the two? I read the comment and translate "unattractive/poorly groomed women". Obviously if this is the correct translation, there wouldn' MayorBob: Finally, Is Anyone Surprised? Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:30:00 EST I mean surprised that Imus would utter a gratuitous, stupid, and offensive remark? It's his stock in trade. Here's a sampler of Imus through the years. MayorBob: Hitting Imus Where It Hurts. Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:20:45 EST Imus' mouth lost him two advertisers -- Staples and Proctor & Gamble -- with another, Bigelow Tea, rethinking advertising on his program. Whether they manage to find advertise MayorBob: Re: Imus Suspended Amid Outrage Wed, 11 Apr 2007 08:54:27 EST The Daily Show made light of Ms. Zurich's plight the other day. Something to the effect that, to belong to this team and travel to the place they arrived and not receive a gratuitous, ugly, racist insult is a slap in the face of non-nappy haired wome zyxwvutsr: Re: Imus Suspended Amid Outrage Wed, 11 Apr 2007 08:29:17 EST I know of one ho who deserves an apology.