Er, Presidential Debate Anyone? (Trees And Things)

tomc: Race

Thu, 3 May 2007 08:56:57 EST

A while ago there was this kerfuffle in Canada about Indian immigrants taking over local chapters of federal parties to make sure that only people of Indian descent could be nominated as candidates for federal elections. For some reason, the fact that immi

nmiguy: Re: Er, Presidential Debate Anyone?

Thu, 3 May 2007 08:56:34 EST

I didn't watch because I figured the first debate would be pretty civil, lame and tell me very little about the candidates at this point. Later on, when the herd is culled a bit, and the real competition begins, the debates will be more meaningful. &

thefadd: Re: Really?

Wed, 2 May 2007 20:39:37 EST

yeah, it's one of my pet peeves, too, actually. don't know why I did it.

zyxwvutsr: Re: Really?

Wed, 2 May 2007 19:20:26 EST

She literally took the Senate by storm...

Literally?

Sorry, but that's one of my pet peeves, when someone uses the word "literally" figuratively. (Or was there an actual meteorological storm of some sort?)

thefadd: Re: Really?

Wed, 2 May 2007 18:20:47 EST

When I do look strictly at policy, I think Clinton is the more appealing choice for me. She's got vastly more experience than Obama, particularly in previously being a part of the executive branch and in her effectiveness in the Senate. She literally took

uncarved block: Really?

Wed, 2 May 2007 14:36:22 EST

I've come toward the conservative side of late

Geez, would have never guessed that, from the blog links in your Saudi terror bust sub :)

I've also started to listen to conservative arguments a little more

rEvolution inAction: Re: Er, Presidential Debate Anyone?

Wed, 2 May 2007 14:28:25 EST

If you want to win, you can't play by someone else's rules, you have to make your own.

permazorch: People would take him seriously in a hurry.

Wed, 2 May 2007 13:48:27 EST

Holy crap, they need to permanently solder her to his arm.
Word. The. Fuck. Up.

Gordon Urkel is so much better over here. For reasons like that link he's The Six Million Dollar Man

thefadd: Re: Pointless castigation of the electorate

Tue, 1 May 2007 23:05:07 EST

And this I think tends to be a basic difference between a lot of American liberals and conservatives. I've come toward the conservative side of late in a lot of ways and look a lot more for vague notions of "leadership qualities" as opposed to rock solid p

jwb: Re: Pointless castigation of the electorate

Tue, 1 May 2007 20:08:02 EST

Kucinich is the only one with an explicit, detailed platform. But his platform is a laugher, so it doesn't really help. He's also the only candidate who has a theme song that isn't chosen by a marketing committee: God Bless America. You g

thefadd: Re: Er, Presidential Debate Anyone?

Tue, 1 May 2007 19:51:43 EST

Chris Rock I saw. He was standing in line at the gumbo pot wearing sunglasses, facial hair, and a tweed english driver style hat. It was pretty funny because he was obviously trying to slip in and slip out but his voice when he ordered was unmistakable and

pO157: Re: Er, Presidential Debate Anyone?

Tue, 1 May 2007 19:25:45 EST

Are we talking about Chris Rock or Dennis Kucinich?

thefadd: Re: Burn Hillary, Burn.

Tue, 1 May 2007 19:21:17 EST

Did you see the pic of Kucinich and his wife in gordon's link above? Holy crap, they need to permanently sodder her to his arm. People would take him seriously in a hurry.

thefadd: Re: Er, Presidential Debate Anyone?

Tue, 1 May 2007 19:19:29 EST

I don't think you can put a woman or a black man in as vice president first. It's the Chris Rock rule. I saw him the other day at the 3rd & fairfax farmers market. he was lookin good but man is he short.

thefadd: Re: Er, Presidential Debate Anyone?

Tue, 1 May 2007 19:17:22 EST

I think it's process and that part of racial progress includes these biases up to a point. Until Kennedy was elected President, irish catholic was as much a subset of the population as a lot of other minorities, probably most akin to Mexicans today. There

dzetetes: Re: Pointless castigation of the electorate

Tue, 1 May 2007 18:54:20 EST

Obama is a politician, a politician Obama - that is all
Ye know on Nov. 4th, and all ye need know.

rEvolution inAction: Re: Er, Presidential Debate Anyone?

Tue, 1 May 2007 15:20:12 EST

I agree, white people shouldn't be allowed to vote. They're sketchy.

rEvolution inAction: Re: Er, Presidential Debate Anyone?

Tue, 1 May 2007 15:19:35 EST

To answer the question in your first sentence, yes. To answer the affirmation in your second sentence, it's because you are a white male.

rombuu: Re: Er, Presidential Debate Anyone?

Tue, 1 May 2007 13:43:20 EST

I keep saying letting everyone vote is a bad idea and no one listens to me....

uncarved block: Didn't Watch, Won't Watch

Tue, 1 May 2007 13:34:13 EST

The only political debates I've watched over the last couple years were the first two Kerry/Bush conflic . . er, shared press appearances, and only because I was on vacation and away from a Civ game. A shocking lack of civic duty? Hardly, at l

pO157: Re: Er, Presidential Debate Anyone?

Tue, 1 May 2007 13:10:36 EST

Do you really think people are so shallow they'd vote for someone just because they were the same sex or race? Hell, I don't fell compelled to vote for someone because they are white or male.

Unfortunately, there are ton

rombuu: Re: Er, Presidential Debate Anyone?

Tue, 1 May 2007 12:50:08 EST

Do you really think people are so shallow they'd vote for someone just because they were the same sex or race? Hell, I don't fell compelled to vote for someone because they are white or male.

pO157: Pointless castigation of the electorate

Tue, 1 May 2007 10:08:09 EST

I will reiterate my position: At this point I think a fair portion of the folks who are going " RAH RAH RAH!" need to rethink their support. I mean, do we even know what they stand for? I have gone to a few campaign websites and all I re

rEvolution inAction: Re: Er, Presidential Debate Anyone?

Tue, 1 May 2007 03:18:28 EST

Yeah, but what about the 100% certain victory on the Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama ticket? I mean just look at the demographics. No matter how many white men there are out there, they are outnumbered by the women and minorities.

permazorch: Burn Hillary, Burn.

Tue, 1 May 2007 01:32:41 EST

A Dennis Kucinich and Barack Obama ticket makes this shallow liberal wet, with knees quivering. I don't care which one for Prez.

None of the rest turn me on. Turn offs? Hillary Clinton.

thefadd: Re: Er, Presidential Debate Anyone?

Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:52:31 EST

It was interesting to me that Hillary came of so poorly and Obama so well. She certainly didn't show any of her hubby's charisma, whereas Obama did. She came off stilted and snobbish, almost Gore-like. This scares me a bit because it seems to be a trait th

rEvolution inAction: Re: Er, Presidential Debate Anyone?

Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:22:31 EST

Or how about they move the NH primary to the day after the election... California can get the same day, year 2... I dunno who wants year three, but it's up for bid.

pO157: Re: Er, Presidential Debate Anyone?

Mon, 30 Apr 2007 07:53:14 EST

Why not just move all the primaries to one single day preferably closer to the big day in November so we don't have to listen to these inane TV ads all the time -- this state by state garbage is ridiculous.