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<title>No More Bookstores, No More Books, No More Librarian's Dirty Looks? (Trees And Things)</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219</link>
<description>Tom Wayne's &lt;a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/28/book.burning.ap/index.html">recent immolation&lt;/a> of the merchandise at his bookstore in Kansas City, occurred to call attention to the fact that Wayne thinks people aren't reading enough books these days.

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<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 20:41:19 EST</pubDate>
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<title>3fingerspointback: Re: Plastic Has Its Music Exchange</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#41</link>
<description>We've discussed traditonal methods of CAPTCHA before, the consensus was that it was too offputting to potential new users to implement, and didn't take into account people with bad eyesight. &#160;One work item is to implement a type of CAPTCHA for signup </description>
<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 03:29:06 EST</pubDate>
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<title>dgraham: Re: Plastic Has Its Music Exchange</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#40</link>
<description>Could &lt;a href="http://www.captcha.net/">CAPTCHA&lt;/a> be employed to help prevent spam-bots?</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:03:58 EST</pubDate>
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<title>workerant: Re: From The Front Lines</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#39</link>
<description>No kidding - I lived in Tucson from 1989-1995 and did a lot of business at Bookman's. There's a &lt;a href="http://www.mckaybooks.com">similar bookstore&lt;/a> in my nearest city that is also thriving.&lt;p>&#10;My mother-in-law left two Nora Roberts novels at my house</description>
<pubDate>Tue, 5 Jun 2007 16:43:29 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: Re: Plastic Has Its Music Exchange</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#38</link>
<description>A technical fix was made to head off the spam bots and early returns on the advertisement campaign weren't promising but some adjustments were made and I think returns are still coming in on both points.</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 1 Jun 2007 14:00:22 EST</pubDate>
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<title>pO157: Re: Plastic Has Its Music Exchange</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#37</link>
<description>A capital idea! &lt;p>&#10;BTW, has there been any movement on eliminating the Spam Bot scourge, or increasing advertisement through alternative sources? I haven't seen a Board of Directors diary entry in a while, so I am not sure what is happening on that front.</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 1 Jun 2007 12:28:15 EST</pubDate>
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<title>ms sue: Re: Plastic Has Its Music Exchange</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#36</link>
<description>&lt;i>I mean, I for one, have all sorts of awful old books that I'd feel bad burning but would feel perfectly peachy sending off to someone else.&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;Nah, just go ahead and burn them. After the first few, the rest will go like a dream.</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 22:29:41 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: Plastic Has Its Music Exchange</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#35</link>
<description>...and failed at its "book club" attempt and I know a CD is a lot quicker to listen to than a whole novel is to read but a book exchange might be kinda neat. I mean, I for one, have all sorts of awful old books that I'd feel bad burning but would feel perf</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 20:23:55 EST</pubDate>
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<title>uncarved block: Tip Of The Iceberg</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#34</link>
<description>&#160; &#160;Did you go to just that one link, or check out the whole thing? That was just the paranormal subsection-- &lt;a href="http://www.ellorascave.com">Ellora's Cave&lt;/a> caters to many other . . markets as well, besides being THE company of choice for </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 19:23:35 EST</pubDate>
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<title>keta: Do a little more googling</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#33</link>
<description>Extremely funny, insanely well-researched, completely politically incorrect &#160;stories about Victorian-era British (and some American) military adventures as told by the memoirist, a self-confessed poltroon who'd rather just roger any and all women he c</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 17:37:44 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: Re: Zardoz</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#32</link>
<description>&lt;i>The &lt;a href="http://www.mykreeve.net/books/flashman/index.htm">Flashman series&lt;/a> of books is written by George Macdonald Fraser, and details the life of fictional Victorian soldier, Sir Harry Flashman.&lt;/i>&#13;&#10;&lt;p>&#13;&#10;I honestly can't think of anything more</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 17:17:20 EST</pubDate>
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<title>keta: Re: Zardoz</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#31</link>
<description>All of them, to my mind.&lt;p>&#10;&lt;i>"Literature" seems to be something different from "fiction with interesting plots and characters" &#160;which most readers prefer.&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;Literature is simply MORE THAN "fiction with interesting plots and characters." &#160;I</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 16:23:54 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Thalia: Re: Zardoz</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#30</link>
<description>But how many of these authors would be considered "literature" for the originally linked story? &#160;Roth maybe, although I consider most of his work to be uninteresting, but certainly not Fraser or Smith. &#160;"Literature" seems to be something differen</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 15:25:38 EST</pubDate>
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<title>keta: Re: Zardoz</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#29</link>
<description>&lt;i>Those that do read know that there was a time in the past when people were embarassed about lacking culture.&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;"Culture", at least here in North America, is now defined by whether or not you can name the current young drug-addicted alcoholic minimu</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 12:45:53 EST</pubDate>
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<title>keta: Re: Zardoz</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#28</link>
<description>&lt;i>Name one modern well-known, industry-respected author whose writing isn't insufferably overbearing or who doesn't fall into the Crichton/Rice/King crap camp.&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;Peter Carey&lt;br>&#10;Cormac McCarthy&lt;br>&#10;Zadie Smith&lt;br>&#10;Martin Amis&lt;br>&#10;Philip Roth&lt;br>&#10;Alic</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 12:37:56 EST</pubDate>
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<title>WMK: Re: Don't Know If This Counts</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#27</link>
<description>OMG!&lt;p>&#10;Its like a publishing company devoted to satisfying the romance/porno lit needs of female star trek nerds....how big a market would anyone expect that to be?&lt;br>&#10;</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 09:15:37 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Steve Urkel: Re: Don't Know If This Counts</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#26</link>
<description>Wow. Thanks for reminding us some readers would be better off if they were watching TV instead. </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 01:09:52 EST</pubDate>
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<title>uncarved block: Don't Know If This Counts</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#25</link>
<description>&#160; &#160;But I think &lt;a href="http://www.ellorascave.com/BookList.asp?Category=FutureSciFi">it's already being done&lt;/a> on a sizable scale. Somehow I suspect that if those documentaries showed that UFOs carried those guys instead of "little gray men", </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 22:48:53 EST</pubDate>
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<title>port1080: Re: I've Got Some Bad News</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#24</link>
<description>&lt;i>The Harlequin romance is alive and well&lt;/i>&#13;&#10;&lt;p>&#13;&#10;That's a shame...the used bookstore I went to growing up (great place, but closed years ago) would give you a discount credit for any books you brought in - except for Harlequins.  The owner had so many </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 20:23:16 EST</pubDate>
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<title>zyxwvutsr: Re: No More Bookstores, No More Books, No More Lib</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#23</link>
<description>Maybe they were printed on coal.</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 20:11:09 EST</pubDate>
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<title>zyxwvutsr: Re: Zardoz</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#22</link>
<description>Richard Russo.</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 20:06:20 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: Re: Zardoz</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#21</link>
<description>Name one modern well-known, industry-respected author whose writing isn't insufferably overbearing or who doesn't fall into the Crichton/Rice/King crap camp.</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 20:02:25 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: Re: Zardoz</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#20</link>
<description>It would have been clever of you to say, "Considering the subjectivity of this subject, yours is an outrageously incorrect statement."</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 20:00:04 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Steve Urkel: Re: From The Cheap Seats</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#19</link>
<description>"books about the paranormal and UFOs, sex tips"&lt;p>&#10;I'm writing a book of tips for having sex with occupants of UFO's.</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 19:34:14 EST</pubDate>
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<title>uncarved block: Thanks</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#18</link>
<description>&#160; &#160;I didn't spend enough time poking around the Prospero's site before, and couldn't get a good sense of the volume. Without a long upcoming comment weighing on my mind, I went back through and found out the size (45K volumes) and scope. On a gue</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 18:32:08 EST</pubDate>
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<title>rombuu: Re: So Here's Some Questions</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#17</link>
<description>I'm not sure if I met the owners or not... it's been a while since I was in there and didn't see anyone with a sash that said "owner" on it or anything. &#160;Really they do have a good location for their business, its next to KU Med center, so you have co</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 15:02:19 EST</pubDate>
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<title>uncarved block: From The Front Lines</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#16</link>
<description>&#160; &#160;As mentioned before, I work at a &lt;a href="http://www.bookmans.com">used book store&lt;/a> myself (check out the Tucson East link for pix), so I've seen one model that works up close and personal. This doesn't mean it's the only way to run a book </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 14:52:15 EST</pubDate>
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<title>gerrymander: Re: Burning books?</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#15</link>
<description>Yeah, submerging the books would have been more thematically consistent.</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 14:12:19 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Admit The Woods: Re: Zardoz</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#14</link>
<description>Agreed. There are as many if not more great literary works being written today as at any other time in history. That they're not being &lt;i>read&lt;/i> in the kind of numbers they used to be is more debatable, but quality-wise (given the subjectivity you rightl</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 13:31:57 EST</pubDate>
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<title>uncarved block: I've Got Some Bad News</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#13</link>
<description>&#160; &#160;The Harlequin romance is alive and well, at least in my little corner of the world. In fact, the company has branched out into S-F (the &lt;a href="http://www.romanticsf.com/features/luna">Luna&lt;/a> imprints), and this after moving into "chick lit</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 13:23:01 EST</pubDate>
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<title>uncarved block: So Here's Some Questions</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#12</link>
<description>&#160; &#160;Have you met the owner? Or at least gotten the vibe he wants for the store? Poking around the website, there certainly seems to have been attitude aplenty before this event ever crossed his mind. I suspect that a lot of potential customers hav</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 13:14:33 EST</pubDate>
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<title>3fingerspointback: Burning books?</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#11</link>
<description>Isn't that kind of backwards for a place named "&lt;a href="http://whitewolf.newcastle.edu.au/words/authors/S/ShakespeareWilliam/play/tempest/tempesta5s1.html">Prospero&lt;/a> Bookstore"?</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 13:03:49 EST</pubDate>
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<title>gerrymander: Re: No More Bookstores, No More Books, No More Lib</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#10</link>
<description>Maybe they're just really big books, like anthologies from James Clavell or Robert Jordan.</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 12:35:59 EST</pubDate>
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<title>pO157: Re: Zardoz</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#9</link>
<description>&lt;blockquote> The obvious answer is that, for a great many people, reading books is not a rewarding and enjoyable activity.&lt;/blockquote>&lt;p>&#10;I am not sure the problem is that there is an increase in the number of people who do not read or if the problem is s</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 10:29:45 EST</pubDate>
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<title>zyxwvutsr: Re: No More Bookstores, No More Books, No More Lib</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#8</link>
<description>&lt;blockquote>&lt;i>I am always looking for books.. I probably go though 50 to 75 a year&lt;/i>&lt;/blockquote>You must have either a remarkably small or remarkably well insulated house to be able to heat it burning only a few dozen books a year.</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 10:11:10 EST</pubDate>
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<title>zyxwvutsr: Re: Zardoz</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#7</link>
<description>&lt;blockquote>&lt;i>I don't know why there aren't more people able to convey with honest enthusiasm that reading books is a rewarding and enjoyable activity&lt;/i>&lt;/blockquote>The obvious answer is that, for a great many people, reading books &lt;i>is not&lt;/i> a rewar</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 10:08:57 EST</pubDate>
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<title>WMK: Re: Zardoz</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#6</link>
<description>TRUE - some people are insufferably awful snobs who leap at any chance to reinforce the default assumption about ivory tower elitists (they SUCK and their opinions are irrelevant). &#160;They are the anti-intellectuals best friends when it comes to promoti</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 10:01:13 EST</pubDate>
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<title>rombuu: Re: No More Bookstores, No More Books, No More Lib</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#5</link>
<description>It was great publicity. &#160;Hell.. this guy's place is a couple of miles from where I work. &#160;It's a decent used bookstore, but nothing I'd go out of my way to visit or anything...and I am always looking for books.. I probably go though 50 to 75 a ye</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 10:00:18 EST</pubDate>
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<title>ms sue: Re: Zardoz</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#4</link>
<description>&lt;i>But literature today is also simply awful.&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;Even considering the subjectivity of this subject, yours is an outrageously incorrect statement. </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 09:24:36 EST</pubDate>
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<title>port1080: Some kinds of books...</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#3</link>
<description>aren't much better than watching TV, or whatever.  Take the venerable Harlequin Romance books.  These things are churned out by poorly paid hack authors, cheaply printed, and sold for $5 a pop or more at your local grocery store.  Do they have literary mer</description>
<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 23:07:45 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: Re: Zardoz</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#2</link>
<description>But literature today is also simply awful. As the audience has slipped away, the ivory tower elites have clutched more and more tightly to their elitist outlooks. People who read books are unbearably snooty about it.</description>
<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 22:24:40 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Steve Urkel: Zardoz</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/5/28/104344/219#1</link>
<description>Starting in the caveman days, only a few were literate, and books were hard to come by. This went on for years, maybe longer. Then the printing press was developed. The availbility of printed material and literacy increased. Time elapsed. And then other en</description>
<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 22:10:38 EST</pubDate>
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