UK Under (Incompetent) Siege (Trees And Things)

skeptic: Re: significance of 9/11

Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:59:14 EST

I am not assuming that these series of attacks are coordinated or planned, I merely observe that there are enough angry Muslims in the world that the attacks will continue. And they will, until there is some fundamental change in existing circumstanc

thefadd: Re: significance of 9/11

Mon, 9 Jul 2007 14:24:16 EST

were not part of an ongoing series of anarchist attacks (although that admittedly was feared at the time). All of the non-Muslim incidents that you mention are isolated incidents, whereas the Muslim attacks are part of an assault on civilization that i

zyxwvutsr: Re: significance of 9/11

Sat, 7 Jul 2007 11:49:41 EST

Disaffected individuals...
Individuals. Just like al Qaeda.

skeptic: Re: significance of 9/11

Sat, 7 Jul 2007 08:56:38 EST
I see a difference between isolated incidents and a sustained attack. Sacco & Vanzetti (even assuming that they actually committed an act of terrorism and weren't just framed) were not part of an ongoing series of anarchist attacks (although that

thefadd: Re: significance of 9/11

Fri, 6 Jul 2007 13:22:46 EST
To qualify it as a siege is to qualify nearly all of civilization as being under siege. Sacho & Vanzetti were not muslim, the haymarket bombers were not muslim, OKC (ostensibly) wasn't muslim backed, the unabomber isn't muslim, yet these were all major

skeptic: significance of 9/11

Thu, 5 Jul 2007 08:51:00 EST
I disagree with your opinion that "9/11 wasn't really that significant". I see all sorts of significant consequences, even beyond the massive loss of life and destruction of property, which was greater than that caused by any previous attack on the U

thefadd: Re: Resource Allocation

Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:49:08 EST
Al Qaida, like America and Democracy, is far stronger as an idea than as an entity. America and Americanism have permeated world culture in ways not previously seen to the benefit of both Americans and humanity. Along comes Al Qaida, nipping at our heels a

uncarved block: Resource Allocation

Tue, 3 Jul 2007 12:17:32 EST
I'm just paraphrasing a C-SPAN speaker here, so take this with a grain of salt. There were some interesting points, though, worth mentioning even if very general.
Al-Quaida, the main terrorist group actually interested in att

zyxwvutsr: Re: Is it really that hard?

Tue, 3 Jul 2007 07:58:31 EST

That's a very keen splice of language
What is?

thefadd: Re: Is it really that hard?

Mon, 2 Jul 2007 22:35:48 EST
That's a very keen splice of language.

zyxwvutsr: Re: Is it really that hard?

Mon, 2 Jul 2007 13:15:11 EST

As Condi Rice astutely noted, the title of the report was "Bin Laden Determined To Attack Inside The United States." Bush came in and slashed anti-terror programs...
For the record, the report entitled Bin Laden Determine
pO157: Re: Is it really that hard? Sun, 1 Jul 2007 08:22:36 EST Are there really not as many terrorists as we've been led to believe? Or is it harder to carry out these sorts of attacks than it appears on the surface? I dunno, but I find it interesting that almost every plot t thefadd: Re: Is it really that hard? Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:27:55 EST I think the real conclusion is that 9/11 wasn't really that significant in the history of terrorism and didn't change anything. Oklahoma City, Achille Lauro, Berlin Olympics, USS Cole, Haymarket Square, etc, etc...they happen every once in awhile. Sure, th port1080: Is it really that hard? Sat, 30 Jun 2007 19:05:32 EST The relative lack of terrorist attacks (both in Europe and the US) since 9/11 has surprised me quite a bit. Many of the terrorist attacks that have succeeded have not been all that complex or well coordinated. The original WTC attack (with the thefadd: Re: UK Under (Incompetent) Siege Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:43:24 EST With a newly instituted government in the UK, it remains to be seen whether the UK will be able to effectively respond to these news attacks. Effectively respond to what? A burning car? I have complete confidence in the fire fighting ability port1080: Re: UK Under (Incompetent) Siege Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:10:04 EST Fixed tinsguy: Re: UK Under (Incompetent) Siege Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:58:24 EST actually it was 2 years ago that terrorists set off explosives in the london underground. tinsguy: Re: UK Under (Incompetent) Siege Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:57:38 EST actually it was 2 years ago that terrorists set off explosives in the london underground.