Cash Rules Everything Around Me, Got the Money, $90,000 Dollar Dollar Bills, Y'all (Trees And Things)

zyxwvutsr: Re: At least one did.

Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:01:10 EST

One assumes if it did, some of the tapes would have been entered into evidence, which they weren't

There was merit to the wiretap if there was probable cause. Producing useful evidence is not a reasonable standard.

And the

MayorBob: Re: At least one did.

Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:43:18 EST

You have shown that the city treasurer was indicted and convicted. You haven't demonstrated that the wiretapping of Street's office had merit. One assumes if it did, some of the tapes would have been entered into evidence, which they weren't. &

zyxwvutsr: Re: At least one did.

Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:32:15 EST

The probes in Detroit and Philadelphia were without merit...

I have already shown that the probe in Philadelphia had merit.

What happened in Detroit?

thefadd: Re: At least one did.

Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:22:00 EST

racism doesn't take a conspiracy, nobody's alleging that. The probes in Detroit and Philadelphia were without merit and those were the major ones I recall but I vaguely recall a few others and will spend some time researching if I have it this weekend.

zyxwvutsr: Re: At least one did.

Fri, 15 Jun 2007 08:13:26 EST

Just because the mayor himself wasn't charged, or, apparently, even implicated in any wrongdoing, doesn't mean it was unreasonable to bug his office. I'd be a lot more inclined to consider the possibility that there was a massive conspiracy at the Justice

MayorBob: Re: At least one did.

Fri, 15 Jun 2007 07:59:22 EST

The bugs in Street's office turned up nothing (according to nameless sources in the Justice Department). Ron White died before they could bring him to trial and the former city treasurer got nailed when a succession of bankers and business owners who

zyxwvutsr: Re: At least one did.

Fri, 15 Jun 2007 07:17:49 EST

If you stuck a bug in every mayor's office, you'd net someone

Probably not. Anyway, do you know of any such investigation that turned out to be without merit?

thefadd: Re: At least one did.

Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:06:15 EST

If you stuck a bug in every mayor's office, you'd net someone. The point is it was just the black ones. Off the top of my head, there was Detroit, too.

zyxwvutsr: Re: At least one did.

Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:32:01 EST

Just because the mayor himself wasn't charged (or, apparently, being directly investigated) doesn't mean the investigation was without merit.

MayorBob: At least one did.

Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:11:25 EST

There was that FBI wiretap of Mayor John Street's office right smack dab in the middle of the 2003 mayoral election. As I recall, the feds wouldn't say what they were h

zyxwvutsr: Re: Cash Rules Everything Around Me, Got the Money

Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:29:44 EST

nearly every black mayor of a major US city has been the subject of a federal probe of some sort

Any of them turn out to be without merit?

pO157: Re: Cash Rules Everything Around Me, Got the Money

Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:59:01 EST

If you are referring to the mayors of Camden, haven't they legitamately been guilty as sin? I don't know much about anywhere else though.

thefadd: Re: Cash Rules Everything Around Me, Got the Money

Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:04:09 EST

I haven't been keeping clippings -- just what I pick up in the news along the way -- but in the last six years nearly every black mayor of a major US city has been the subject of a federal probe of some sort. It'd be worth a write-up, I think.

pO157: Re: Cash Rules Everything Around Me, Got the Money

Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:54:25 EST

Are you serious?

I am genuinely curious.

thefadd: Re: Cash Rules Everything Around Me, Got the Money

Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:29:45 EST

Who cares. The larger picture is that the justice department is serially attacking and harassing black politicians at all levels of government.

pO157: Re: Cash Rules Everything Around Me, Got the Money

Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:54:49 EST

Anybody know if La. has a recall provision for elected officers? Can you recall a sitting congressman, or is expulsion [unlikely at this time] by the House the only way to do it?

Lou: What?

Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:48:37 EST

Bush, however, is not a crook (wiretaps notwithstanding),

Isn't that kind of like saying Charles Manson is not a crook/criminal (murders notwithstanding)?

zyxwvutsr: Re: Well, that explains a lot

Sun, 10 Jun 2007 10:51:55 EST

Jefferson::LA is to Bush::America

That's a fair comparison to an extent. Bush, however, is not a crook (wiretaps notwithstanding), but Jefferson clearly is.

Lou: Well, that explains a lot

Sun, 10 Jun 2007 08:57:26 EST

Because the people in New Orleans are screwed up.

So...

Jefferson::LA is to Bush::America

teaweed: All they had to do

Sun, 10 Jun 2007 07:54:11 EST

In my city, local elections aren't well publicized. I've only ever seen mayoral and national election dates mentioned beforehand on local news or even in the papers. Finding out when and where to go vote in local elections requires research. Assuming one w

zyxwvutsr: Re: People usually get the government they deserve

Sat, 9 Jun 2007 18:13:44 EST

People usually inherit a government they had little to do with creating and governments are entrenched systems. Changing a government takes a community of ambitious, idealistic, civic-minded people with time or money to spare

tinsguy: Re: Political corruption in Louisiana?

Sat, 9 Jun 2007 14:49:52 EST

and yet what mayorbob said is very true.

everyone is south louisiana knows that jefferson is a crook. i lived there for 23 years, the last 10 in new orleans before moving. the various news reports through the years would give me pause to laugh at the bl

teaweed: People usually get the government they deserve

Sat, 9 Jun 2007 13:37:41 EST

That adage occurred to me too, repeatedly, while watching blunder, after bad faith, after incompetency in the news about Katrina and its aftermath. Now that my indignation has abated some, I find it a specious consolation.

People usually inherit a gove

gerrymander: heh

Thu, 7 Jun 2007 16:16:31 EST

The only reason he didn't do time was because the weed was stashed in metal kayak paddles

So, the cop was right about the profile, but just not diligent enough. Classic.

zyxwvutsr: Re: Damn right!

Thu, 7 Jun 2007 08:52:34 EST

what does surprise me is that you don't specifically blame Clinton

Was Clinton (either of them) responsible for John Kerry becoming the nominee? If not, then why in the world would I blame Clinton (either of them)?

Dvandom: Re: Political corruption in Louisiana?

Thu, 7 Jun 2007 08:42:56 EST

Nonsense. Everyone KNOWS it's Cheney who makes milk go sour.

Lou: Re: Damn right!

Wed, 6 Jun 2007 19:21:32 EST

No surprise there...what does surprise me is that you don't specifically blame Clinton.

uncarved block: Well, Y'Know

Wed, 6 Jun 2007 18:03:24 EST

I'm pretty sure he was stoned at the time :)

Seriously, though, it was a bit of a "changes in latitude, changes in attitude" story. In Washington State, especially in the medium-small town he was from, no cop would have looked

zyxwvutsr: Re: Damn right!

Wed, 6 Jun 2007 17:44:43 EST

Bush is some kind of holy retribution for something

I blame the Democrats.

Lou: Damn right!

Wed, 6 Jun 2007 16:38:09 EST

Tell ya whut...them folks in No'lins didn't get enough shit laid on 'em whut Katrina did. Shulda bin a bigger storm an' flushed the city like the giant toilet it is. Then...when things done dried out, we coulda recolonized the place with folks

Lou: Bwuh?

Wed, 6 Jun 2007 16:30:30 EST

No seatbelt...long hair...kayak paddles?

Shoot...I thought those three things together were considered iron clad probable cause in Texas.

pO157: Re: Yes, I Think So

Wed, 6 Jun 2007 16:00:46 EST

*Happened to a buddy of mine in Texas. No seat belt + long hair= a twenty minute search of his car. The only reason he didn't do time was because the weed was stashed in metal kayak paddles, hollow metal ones that click together, and the cop d

uncarved block: Yes, I Think So

Wed, 6 Jun 2007 13:23:38 EST

Large sums of cash are taken as a sign of either tax evasion, or for the purchase of illicit substances like guns or drugs. Of course, the question is how much is too much; I've known guys who felt better if they could flash having 500 bucks

pO157: Re: Committees And Corruption

Wed, 6 Jun 2007 13:06:01 EST

*In fact, IIRC, large sums of cash are probable cause for law enforcement agents to investigate you. Are you serious? If I was not loitering in a known drug sales area and had a ton of cash on me or crossing a border with that kind of dough that w

uncarved block: Committees And Corruption

Wed, 6 Jun 2007 12:55:38 EST

Committee positions are, AFAIK, given out entirely at the discretion of the party leadership. Is it better or worse that the usual reason for deciding who gets what committee seat has more to do with party loyalty than public image? (There ma

rombuu: Re: Political corruption in Louisiana?

Wed, 6 Jun 2007 12:47:42 EST

Oh that funny Jon Stewart... has to drag Bush into a Democrat stealing money. What a riot that guy is. He probably thinks it's Bush's fault when the milk in his fridge goes bad too.

MayorBob: Re: Political corruption in Louisiana?

Wed, 6 Jun 2007 12:33:16 EST

Or, in the words of Jon Stewart, "this indictment by the Justice Department marks the first time the Bush administration cared about a black Democrat from New Orleans."

pO157: Re: Administrative Query:

Wed, 6 Jun 2007 11:52:37 EST

Yep, it's CREAM by the Wu Tang Clan. Because I'm so gangsta. Word to yo mutha, homes. Or something.

zyxwvutsr: Re: random thoughts about dirty politicians

Wed, 6 Jun 2007 11:01:41 EST

he was re-elected to his position after these allegations came to light

That reminds me of the adage that people usually get the government they deserve. Why, to put it another way, is New Orleans screwed up? Because the p

rombuu: Political corruption in Louisiana?

Wed, 6 Jun 2007 10:42:16 EST
Get outta here... who would ever believe that...

WMK: Re: Administrative Query:

Wed, 6 Jun 2007 10:18:16 EST
Dolla Dolla Bill Y'all?
From some rappy hippity hoppity thingamadoo right?
but which one it is I haven't a clue - a'ight!?
R Kelly?
Nevertheless the key word here is alleged, and its perh

MayorBob: Re: Cash Rules Everything Around Me, Got the Money

Wed, 6 Jun 2007 06:38:08 EST
Louisiana.

shane: Re: Cash Rules Everything Around Me, Got the Money

Wed, 6 Jun 2007 02:49:15 EST
Does 'D-LA' mean he is a democrat from LA?