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<title>When The Cold, Hard Facts Don't Work, Scare The Smoke Out Of Them (Trees And Things)</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/7/31/16525/4229</link>
<description>Smoking kills! &#160;Is there anyone who'd care to take the time to dispute that notion? &#160;In spite of the &lt;a href="http://www.cigarettes.1emallway.com/warning.htm">various Surgeon General warning labels&lt;/a> printed on the side of cigarette packs, people seem to insist on smoking. &#160;So, how do we go about kicking up the warnings a notch to get the message across that smoking kills? &#160;In the minds of some US Senators, what's needed are &lt;a href="http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=3414</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 2 Aug 2007 11:20:49 EST</pubDate>
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<title>pO157: Re: No insurance</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/7/31/16525/4229#16</link>
<description>They'll require &lt;a href="http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/06/news/companies/publix.reut/index.htm?postversion=2007080618">a prescription&lt;/a>. Antibiotic resistance is a major concern but could be resolved with having doctors stop writing prescriptions for ever</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 8 Aug 2007 07:46:32 EST</pubDate>
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<title>pO157: Pickles are deadly!</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/7/31/16525/4229#15</link>
<description>It is a fact that 100% of the people who ate pickles in 1869 are now dead, and everybody who eats a pickle today will die, regardless of government supplied medical care.</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 8 Aug 2007 07:45:00 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: Re: No insurance</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/7/31/16525/4229#14</link>
<description>&lt;i>Publix Groceries is now offering dozens of common antibiotics for free to customers, drugs which would treat those sick children or poor elderly.&lt;/i>&#13;&#10;&lt;p>&#13;&#10;And this is probably the most heinous public policy in the history of antibiotics. People already</description>
<pubDate>Tue, 7 Aug 2007 21:23:12 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: Re: No insurance</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/7/31/16525/4229#13</link>
<description>&lt;i>What did everybody do before the US had medicaid/medicare?&lt;/i>&#13;&#10;&lt;p>&#13;&#10;They died. And that was a long time ago, so I'm pretty sure I can safely say all of them. Puts a big hole in your argument doesn't it?</description>
<pubDate>Tue, 7 Aug 2007 21:19:44 EST</pubDate>
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<title>pO157: Re: No insurance</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/7/31/16525/4229#12</link>
<description>What did the elderly do before the recent prescription drug benefit was enacted? I am guessing they paid for their drugs, had their health insurance cover it, or had assistance from family members or charity. &lt;p>&#10;What did everybody do before the US had med</description>
<pubDate>Tue, 7 Aug 2007 14:42:04 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Thalia: No insurance</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/7/31/16525/4229#11</link>
<description>Unless we can agree that we'll let people drop dead without helping them, removing the "public involvement" in health care is impossible. &#160;Can you imagine the country committing to just letting that baby die of something we could cure, if we had publi</description>
<pubDate>Tue, 7 Aug 2007 13:07:40 EST</pubDate>
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<title>pO157: Re: Exactly Thalia.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/7/31/16525/4229#10</link>
<description>Right. So devil's advocate argument aside, I think we can all find something we would rather not pay for, or cover. Perhaps it would be best to simply end the public involvement in health care and let the market go where it may? Of course, this would be a </description>
<pubDate>Tue, 7 Aug 2007 08:29:02 EST</pubDate>
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<title>MayorBob: Exactly Thalia.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/7/31/16525/4229#9</link>
<description>Let's not look on it as health insurance. &#160;Let's view it as an entrance fee for breathing. &#160;Besides, if we dwell on the illness aspect of health insurance, it'll just depress us and we'll all need decent mental health insurance.</description>
<pubDate>Tue, 7 Aug 2007 06:19:51 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Thalia: Re: I Don't Smoke.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/7/31/16525/4229#8</link>
<description>Watch that slippery slope there. &#160;First, let's deny coverage to smokers. &#160;Then to the couch potatoes (obesity kills). &#160;Then to those with high cholesterol (eating too many pork rinds leads to heart attacks), Then to people who drink coffee &amp;</description>
<pubDate>Tue, 7 Aug 2007 03:39:31 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Steve Urkel: Re: I smoke, and I enjoy it immensely.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/7/31/16525/4229#7</link>
<description>Economist Kip Viscusi &lt;a href=" http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/reg18n3e.html ">discovered&lt;/a>:&lt;blockquote>"smokers impose higher medical-care costs of 46&#162; per pack; higher sick-leave costs of 1&#162; per pack; greater life-insurance costs of 11&amp;#</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 3 Aug 2007 15:10:20 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: Re: I Don't Smoke.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/7/31/16525/4229#6</link>
<description>The problem is not with cigarettes but with the healthcare system. Cost effective treatments and health programs exist...that the HMO system is broken is not fault of cigarettes. Don't subsidize anyone in the HMO system...</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 3 Aug 2007 14:56:19 EST</pubDate>
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<title>pO157: Re: I Don't Smoke.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/7/31/16525/4229#5</link>
<description>Eh. I don't really care so much if people want to go ahead and kill themselves with these cigarettes. Furthermore, those that are addicted will not be stopped simply by pictures of limp organs or what have you. &lt;p>&#10;What I do have a problem with is financin</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 3 Aug 2007 08:55:24 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: Re: I Don't Smoke.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/7/31/16525/4229#4</link>
<description>Now taxing the hell out of alcohol, tobacco, oil and firearms I'm A-ok with.</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 3 Aug 2007 00:08:47 EST</pubDate>
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<title>MayorBob: I Don't Smoke.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/7/31/16525/4229#3</link>
<description>I quit cold turkey from a two pack a day habit 12 years ago. &#160;Thus, I'm not sure I object to whatever they want to print on cigarette packs -- I won't be looking at any of it anyhow.&lt;p>&#10;Thus, I went to my subject matter expert on this, my next door ne</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 2 Aug 2007 17:47:28 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: Sicko II</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/7/31/16525/4229#2</link>
<description>I'm okay with the current regulations on smoking. Cancer or not, whatever, second hand smoke has always given me a headache unless it's a clove, a gauloise blonde or the marijuana. I remember as a kid it was difficult to avoid second hand smoke. These days</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 2 Aug 2007 16:39:22 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Lou: A prediction</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/7/31/16525/4229#1</link>
<description>I am all for programs that can help people quit...or better yet not start their tobacco addiction. &#160;However, I don't think this is going to work. &#160;In fact, after a while these warning pictures will turn into the latest collection of trading cards</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 2 Aug 2007 16:23:03 EST</pubDate>
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