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<title>September Dawn: Making Some See Red (Trees And Things)</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/8/15/125316/088</link>
<description>September 11, 1857 - the first 9/11 and the first act of religious terrorism and mass murder in the United States. One hundred and twenty men, women and children of a westbound wagon train were savagely ambushed, and killed off - first under siege and then murdered under the perfidy of a false truce at Mountain Meadows, Utah. Who was responsible for the Mountain Meadows Massacre is something that has been hotly contested ever since. On August 24, the film "&lt;a href="http://www.septemberdawn.net/">September D</description>
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<title>Lou: Also this</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/8/15/125316/088#14</link>
<description>I think if you re-read my comment, you'll find I was mostly agreeing with you. &#160;Be that as it may, I still find it odd that you would compare contemporaries such as the Mormons and the Quakers, putting them on almost equal terms. &#160;The Mormons wer</description>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:09:07 EST</pubDate>
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<title>gerrymander: Re: Gerry Rigged Logic</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/8/15/125316/088#13</link>
<description>Don't be glib, thefadd. "Freeing the black people from slavery" cost the lives of 10% of the male population in the United States at the time. That's a significant body count to be weighed against the morals of a bunch of pacifists. Yes, it was the right t</description>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:48:22 EST</pubDate>
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<title>gerrymander: Re: 2 questions</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/8/15/125316/088#12</link>
<description>&lt;i>Almost every review I've read has brought up the connection in some way.&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;Well, yeah, but they're comparing the director's interpretation to modern events. What I'm questioning is whether that interpretation is correct. (SInce the script has the M</description>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:36:31 EST</pubDate>
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<title>pO157: Re: Who cares?</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/8/15/125316/088#11</link>
<description>Ah, yes, Kolob. Right. Well, if I had time to list every kookie thing I would still be writing. I think the general point was that this won't affect Romney because those who won't vote for him because of his religion already will do so without help from th</description>
<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:39:51 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: Re: Who cares?</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/8/15/125316/088#10</link>
<description>They also believe every star in the sky is a planet populated by people.</description>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:27:29 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: Gerry Rigged Logic</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/8/15/125316/088#9</link>
<description>Mormons:Quakers::Destruction of Twin Towers:Freeing Black People From Slavery</description>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:21:50 EST</pubDate>
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<title>keta: Re: Who cares?</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/8/15/125316/088#8</link>
<description>Thanks for your informative post.&lt;p>&#10;Anyone wanting to know more about the origin and modern-day workings of the Mormon Church would be well-served by reading Jon Krakauer's, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Under-Banner-Heaven-Jon-Krakauer/dp/0330419129/ref</description>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:16:20 EST</pubDate>
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<title>1fastdog: Re: 2 questions</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/8/15/125316/088#7</link>
<description>"so closely resembles the religious fanaticism the world is seeing today."&lt;p>&#10;&lt;i>First question: Does it really?&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;Apparently so, gerry. Almost every review I've read has brought up the connection in some way. The critic for The Arizona Republic makes</description>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:16:26 EST</pubDate>
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<title>uncarved block: Yes And No</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/8/15/125316/088#6</link>
<description>&#160; &#160;I don't want to answer for the film maker, who may well be rather simple minded on the issues. (He certainly wouldn't be the first or the last when it comes to Mormons; they seem to have provoked overreaction, to the point of violence, from al</description>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:46:44 EST</pubDate>
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<title>pO157: Who cares?</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/8/15/125316/088#5</link>
<description>Look. The fact that the Mormons were involved in a major slaughter 'back in the day is not going to matter for their HQ's bottom line (although we probably would not know if it did because they are one of the few churches to &lt;a href="http://64.233.167.104/</description>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:07:34 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Lou: Re: 2 questions</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/8/15/125316/088#4</link>
<description>I never realized that Quakers were so violent. &#160;My bad.</description>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:40:07 EST</pubDate>
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<title>gerrymander: Re: 2 questions</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/8/15/125316/088#3</link>
<description>&lt;i>Politics is the reason...fanaticism is the means.&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;No offense, but that doesn't answer the question, Lou. I can think of another set of American religious fanatics contemporaneous with the early Mormons, and these fanatics caused an outright war. </description>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:03:28 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Lou: Re: 2 questions</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/8/15/125316/088#2</link>
<description>&lt;i>Does it really? Is it enough to to just blame "religious fanaticism," or should one try to examine the various political goals enmeshed with zealous religious messages?&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;Politics is the reason...fanaticism is the means.</description>
<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 06:59:40 EST</pubDate>
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<title>gerrymander: 2 questions</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2007/8/15/125316/088#1</link>
<description>&lt;i>"so closely resembles the religious fanaticism the world is seeing today."&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;First question: Does it really? Is it enough to to just blame "religious fanaticism," or should one try to examine the various political goals enmeshed with zealous religi</description>
<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 22:01:06 EST</pubDate>
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