Con Vick (Trees And Things)

thefadd: Re: Since When Do We Copy Our Headlines

Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:25:54 EST

I agree, but I think comparing Don Imus to Vick and Bin Laden is kind of extreme.

It is extreme. But I'm not the one who did it. To mix pop culture metaphors, each, like Vick, has had his own fifteen minutes of hate and then been forgotten ent

thefadd: Re: What The Hell?

Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:08:54 EST

I don't think Vick's problem was dog fight at all. I think I've said so elsewhere in this thread.

uncarved block: What The Hell?

Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:56:30 EST

Sorry, I've been thinking about this post for a couple days, and I still don't know quite what you're getting at. Imus I could chalk up to some kind of media frenzy, even though he knew damn well that advertising was the name of the game-- li

MayorBob: Re: It's All Over But The Singing For Vick.

Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:22:33 EST

No, if the reports are true and I were Arthur Blank, the lawyer who produced the contract that Vick signed wouldn't be working for the Falcons beyond yesterday.

pO157: Re: It's All Over But The Singing For Vick.

Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:48:01 EST

So what you are saying is that if you were in the Falcon's HR department you'd be on the phone begging the commissioner to drop a lifetime ban on Vick ASAP to increase the money they'd get back once they drop him from the roster?

MayorBob: Re: It's All Over But The Singing For Vick.

Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:14:56 EST

Actually, the signing bonus is money paid up front when they sign the contract. However, the impact on the pay cap in the NFL is to prorate the signing bonus over the life of the contract. Thus the Falcons can't go after that portion of the sig

pO157: Re: It's All Over But The Singing For Vick.

Tue, 28 Aug 2007 07:30:31 EST

When no other money in the NFL is guaranteed, that seems like money the teams shouldn't be able to recoup, no matter the circumstance.

Does the NFL have a players union pension system and healthcare plan for retirees the same way baseball does?

thefadd: Re: It's All Over But The Singing For Vick.

Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:53:05 EST

I know it's part of the CBA but it seems wrong to me that teams can go after signing bonuses. They were bonuses for signing with the team. When no other money in the NFL is guaranteed, that seems like money the teams shouldn't be able to recoup, no matter

pO157: Re: Since When Do We Copy Our Headlines

Mon, 27 Aug 2007 07:39:16 EST

We've reached a very sad point in our society when these weekly morality obsessions cause us to make stark declarations that are invariably rolled back during more level-headed times...Don Imus, Michael Vick, Osama Bin Laden. String him up! Ban him for

pO157: Re: Marbury is an idiot

Mon, 27 Aug 2007 07:28:49 EST
Personally, I think they should allow gambling of all kinds in professional sports. Just open the whole thing up to market forces. A official or player should not be made into a pariah if he's cheating...they should be ostracized for not gi

MayorBob: It's All Over But The Singing For Vick.

Sat, 25 Aug 2007 11:15:19 EST
No sooner does he scribble his signature on a statement of facts basically saying he did everything he said he didn't. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell didn't lose any time and Vick has

MayorBob: Oh, By The Way.

Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:44:06 EST
What's your problem with copying the headline? I don't believe it appears in any of the links and I suggested it in the queue and gave full disclosure about where it came from. I thought it was a fairly succinct, witty statement.

MayorBob: You're not really surprised by Upshaw?

Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:41:15 EST
I mean, when was the last time the man ever had a contrary opinion to what the commissioner had to say about anything? Little wonder why contracts in the NFL are among the most worthless documents known to man. Here, you earn a gazillion dollar

thefadd: Since When Do We Copy Our Headlines

Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:16:50 EST
A good point was made the other day that the labor union has seriously capitulated in its defense of one of its members in this case. We've reached a very sad point in our society when these weekly morality obsessions cause us to make stark declarations th

thefadd: Re: Marbury is an idiot

Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:10:37 EST
Marbury can have whatever opinion he wants. It got a little play because it happened to fly in the face of the current media group think. Honestly, we need more people to just say things outside of the media group think whenever those rabid dogs reach such

MayorBob: Re: Marbury is an idiot

Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:08:31 EST
I'll see your coff - Pete Rose - coff and raise you one coff - Tim Donaghy - coff. As a master of logic, Marbury is a damned fine basketball player. That's about all you can say about it.

Lou: Marbury is an idiot

Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:56:40 EST
Has he forgotten that a big part of dog fighting is gambling? I understand that pro-sports takes a dim view of this (coff-Pete Rose- coff)
Personally, I think they should allow gambling of all kinds in professional sports. Just open t