Halt! Ihre Papiere bitte! (Trees And Things)

port1080: Re: Halt! Ihre Papiere Gefallen!

Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:44:12 EST

Thanks - fixed.

harzerkatze: Re: Halt! Ihre Papiere Gefallen!

Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:12:14 EST

Computer translation usually does not work. Just translate a sentence from english into another language with one and then translate it back.

Your german title makes no sense, directly translating it to english would spell either: "Stop! Your papers fav

pO157: Here's my objection: Useless

Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:08:29 EST

If the administration wants to act like this will somehow help our transportation security they need to pick a better story. When I am crammed into a plane, eating salty peanuts and reading the 40 copies of Vibe somebody from the last flight left behind I

pO157: Re: Halt! Ihre Papiere Gefallen!

Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:56:36 EST

I don't trust babelfish ever since college when I was trying to translate a message somebody had left in a foreign language. The website claimed the person was trying to tell everybody they had tapeworms. After that I lost all faith and credit in online tr

zyxwvutsr: Re: drivers licenses, identity, and national id

Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:43:12 EST

The question might be why is it critical to confirm with 99.99999% probability that the license card whose picture 'looks like you' is actually your own?

Terrorists.

Discussion over.

wetkarma: Re: drivers licenses, identity, and national id

Mon, 14 Jan 2008 05:42:19 EST

What's to stop you from having your cousin (who looks like you) get a license card and hand it over to you? That's why I say that inherent in the idea of a driver's license is the notion that the person who is carrying it is who the license s

JimmyHavok: Re: Halt! Ihre Papiere Gefallen!

Mon, 14 Jan 2008 02:45:33 EST
The ACLU has a web site devoted to Real ID: Real Nightmare.
I for one wonder what the Bush administration thinks Real ID will do to stop terrorism. On the other hand, I can see how it could be easily use

1fastdog: Re: all you're info. right there. for everyone to

Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:01:39 EST
Note: No SSN, no passport number, no JPEG of your birth certificate. My driver's license, today, contains all this information already. The only change is that this goes on a bar code. What is your concern?
After looking a

profwhat: Re: drivers licenses, identity, and national id

Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:44:43 EST
Example: I go to Maine's DMV and apply for a license with the name Bob Karma. I pass my test, grab my new piece of lamine, hop in my porsche and press the accelerator for all its worth. While passing the local school zone, I get pulled over and an offic

port1080: Re: Halt! Ihre Papiere Gefallen!

Sun, 13 Jan 2008 04:18:22 EST
I'll fess up to the title - it was my attempt to translate pO157's original title ("Papers Please, Citizen") into German. My understanding is that it means "Stop! Your Papers Please!" - but I'm also not a native German speaker, so I may have gotten i

wetkarma: drivers licenses, identity, and national id

Sun, 13 Jan 2008 04:06:29 EST

This is stupid. Inherent in the idea of a driver's license is the notion that the person who is carrying it is who the license says they are. While the REAL ID stuff may be overkill in some respects, it is a good idea to require states

harzerkatze: Re: Halt! Ihre Papiere Gefallen!

Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:53:54 EST
Can someone explain the headline to me? Because that makes no sense in german.

profwhat: Re: all you're info. right there. for everyone to

Sun, 13 Jan 2008 00:14:07 EST
I currently carry no form of govt mandated ID that contains all of my private data.
Nor will you:
To meet the needs of the DMVs and law enforcement, § 37.19 of the final rule specifies that the MRZ contain the following data elem

1fastdog: Re: all you're info. right there. for everyone to

Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:16:45 EST
the government already knows your social security number and birth certificate, because they gave that stuff to you.
That's just fallacious bullshit. I currently carry no form of govt mandated ID that contains all of my private data. The c

Lou: Re: Driver's licenses

Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:13:25 EST
That must be new...back in the late 80s when I got my Maine license, I had to produce (and surrender) my Florida license and show a proof of residence (I distinctly remember bringing my power bill to the DMV.)

profwhat: Re: all you're info. right there. for everyone to

Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:21:38 EST
You are smart, so I know that your worry can't be having your "social security numbers and birth certificates" being available to the government--after all, the government already knows your social security number and birth certificate, because they

zyxwvutsr: Re: Driver's licenses

Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:20:03 EST

Inherent in the idea of a driver's license is the notion that the person who is carrying it is who the license says they are
That article doesn't say you don't need to establish your identity to get a license in Maine, it onl

1fastdog: all you're info. right there. for everyone to see.

Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:16:19 EST
As for the fears of a national ID card system, can someone explain the danger of that to me?
Because it's an unfunded mandate that's currently opposed by at least 17 states with the potentially troublesome aspect of carrying around all of your pr

profwhat: Driver's licenses

Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:21:36 EST
So, in Maine, you don't need to prove you are a U.S. citizen to get a driver's license. In fact, you don't even need to prove you are a resident of M

novy: Re: Halt! Ihre Papiere Gefallen!

Sat, 12 Jan 2008 09:49:49 EST
Implementation of Real ID law has been postponed by five years until 2017. But starting in May, any state that still resists implemen