Shy Elf: Re: 'traditionally trended republican'

Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:33:26 EST

Yes, Colorado has gradually been trending more Democratic lately, as has Virginia. In fact, if you sort the states by Obama's victory margin, at 9% Colorado works out to be the national swing state this election. Obama could have lost NH,FL,OH,

strangeluck: Re: Will The Dems Rue This Day?

Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:40:25 EST

Was Dean just lucky enough to be in charge when the Republicans imploded? Or were Democrats lucky to have someone like Dean in place to take advantage of the situation and extend their sway in to previously untouchable districts?

shane: Re: 'traditionally trended republican'

Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:34:00 EST

Your are right in what you are saying, in the memory of many voters it has only gone once democratic My real issue I guess is that it leaves the 47% of people in Colorado who voted democratic in 2004 feeling disenfranchised, which further erodes the

port1080: Re: 'traditionally trended republican'

Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:07:25 EST

In defense of myself, I think that when we're talking politics, the most relevant period of time to look at is about as far back as the maximum likely age of the voting public. Probably about the oldest age cohort that votes in any meaningful numbers

T Slothrop: You have to understand "media time"

Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:51:59 EST

"Traditionally" means since Reagan. "Historically" means since 1960 or so. They don't have terms for any further back than that because who can count that high?

thefadd: Re: 'traditionally trended republican'

Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:49:01 EST

This is one of those things that bothers me as well. It's a very surface, very useless attempt to come across like you're analyzing a situation. It's never any real indicator of future behavior; it's such a compulsive obsession with past results that aren'

shane: Re: 'traditionally trended republican'

Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:09:16 EST

Ok so I have trouble counting. Four states, 9 times in 100 years and 35% of the time.

shane: 'traditionally trended republican'

Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:04:55 EST

This phrase bugs me. The media likes to say it a lot - so and so traditionally trends republican. Looking into just one of the three states mentioned above (Colorado, North Carolina, Virginia, and Indiana) I see that Colorado doesn't trend repu

MayorBob: Dean Played A Part.

Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:07:29 EST

But Obama won through a combination of things:

An unpopular president in office from the opposite party.
A smart, savvy campaign with Obama at the head.
An economy that imploded at

uncarved block: Will The Dems Rue This Day?

Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:51:32 EST

Well, that depends on how you piece together the cause and effect of the last two elections. Was Dean just lucky enough to be in charge when the Republicans imploded? Or were Democrats lucky to have someone like Dean in place to take ad

port1080: Re: Holy Screaming Meemies - Howard Dean Vacating

Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:50:49 EST

Salon is running an article today that gives Dean credit for Obama's victory - thoughts?

port1080: Re: Holy Screaming Meemies - Howard Dean Vacating

Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:34:14 EST

I just want to second meyotch's comment in the sub-q - I think that the fifty state strategy paid off dividends and that it needs to be continued. Demographics generally favor the Dems right now, but in a lot of states there just aren't credible Demo

Holy Screaming Meemies - Howard Dean Vacating DNC Post (Trees And Things)

Shy Elf: Re: 'traditionally trended republican'

strangeluck: Re: Will The Dems Rue This Day?

shane: Re: 'traditionally trended republican'

port1080: Re: 'traditionally trended republican'

T Slothrop: You have to understand "media time"

thefadd: Re: 'traditionally trended republican'

shane: Re: 'traditionally trended republican'

shane: 'traditionally trended republican'

MayorBob: Dean Played A Part.

uncarved block: Will The Dems Rue This Day?

port1080: Re: Holy Screaming Meemies - Howard Dean Vacating

port1080: Re: Holy Screaming Meemies - Howard Dean Vacating