Senator Advocates Required Purchase of Health Care (Trees And Things)

Steve Urkel: Re: Economist advocates cutting medicine in half

Sun, 16 Nov 2008 13:43:12 EST

Any politician advocating it would be assailed by demagogues claiming the 50% being cut was the half that paid for Tiny Tim's crutches.

skeptic: universal health insurance

Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:56:44 EST

The easiest and most effective way of creating universal health insurance is not to require people to buy health insurance and to fine those who don't, but to simply GIVE people health insurance. Here in the province of Ontario, where I live and type

zyxwvutsr: Re: syntax

Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:34:37 EST

Independent polls tend to support universal healthcare options

What does that mean?

thefadd: Re: Economist advocates cutting medicine in half

Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:32:44 EST

duh...But how does he hope to accomplish that with the power and influence consolidated within the pharmaceutical industry over the past generation?

thefadd: Re: Senator Advocates Required Purchase of Health

Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:22:56 EST

We may very well be talking past each other here. The plan being put forth by Baucus would not replace Health Management Organizations. It would create "universal" care by compelling everyone to buy into the existing system thus magically making the existi

permazorch: Re: Senator Advocates Required Purchase of Health

Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:50:56 EST

doctors and administrators working the system is an issue that needs addressed as well.
Definitely agreed.

If it were only possible to modulate the amount of money blasted at medicos with the amount dripping to educators, I think we'd have a

Thalia: Re: Economist advocates cutting medicine in half

Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:39:13 EST

The problem isn't how much we spend, it's where we spend it. A significant portion of our healthcare cost is spent in the last hours before an unavoidable death. I don't mean that we spend a lot of money trying to save people who're 28 and may

Steve Urkel: Economist advocates cutting medicine in half

Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:26:02 EST

I've linked to Robin Hanson explaining why we should cut spending on medicine in half before, but it's so entertaining I'm doing it again. Some highlight

Thalia: Re: Senator Advocates Required Purchase of Health

Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:42:48 EST

How do you get universal healthcare without making it compulsory?
How do you figure that HMOs want to be replaced by universal healthcare?

And why do you believe a "poll" about government-related healthcare that was created and executed by a

1fastdog: Re: Senator Advocates Required Purchase of Health

Fri, 14 Nov 2008 09:42:27 EST

Any plan that rewards health insurance companies is a non-starter, for me.

While the insurance companies have certainly done some awful things to people, it's the doctors and hospital administrators that game the system to so much detriment. Whil

thefadd: Re: Senator Advocates Required Purchase of Health

Fri, 14 Nov 2008 04:23:10 EST

It's quite a jump from universal to compulsory. HMOs do want health care regulation--I know this is cognitive dissonance for the knee jerk liberal reaction but they want exactly the regulation Baucus is pushing.

Thalia: Re: Senator Advocates Required Purchase of Health

Fri, 14 Nov 2008 02:21:19 EST

Both the "polls" and the "analysis" links are from the Wall Street Journal quoting the National Center for Policy Reform, titled in their site as "A leader in promoting private alternatives to government regulation and control" and Campaign for Consu

permazorch: Re: Senator Advocates Required Purchase of Health

Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:28:11 EST

Any plan that rewards health insurance companies is a non-starter, for me. The pharmaceutical giants and health insurance bloodsuckers are the criminals who should have to pay for nationalized health care.

But, I'm a crank, and sensible people should no

thefadd: Re: Senator Advocates Required Purchase of Health

Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:59:47 EST

Wow, that's even worse...if I recall correctly, Hillary's plan called for allowing those earning over $75,000 to not have to purchase health care.

MayorBob: Re: Senator Advocates Required Purchase of Health

Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:11:37 EST

I wonder if Baucus' plan (and potentially Obama's plan) is like the Massachusetts plan which mandates that every person must obtain healthcare insurance. &nb