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<title>Liberal Circular Firing Squad in Action? (Trees And Things)</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/11/24/84836/249</link>
<description>Nevermind that he's the United State's first black President. &#160;Nevermind that he supports universal healthcare. &#160;Nevermind that he's promoting an economic stimulus plan that will rival the New Deal. Nevermind that he talked openly in the campaign about redistributing the wealth. &#160;According to many died-in-the-red liberals, Barack Obama is already proving he's &lt;a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.thenation.com/blogs/jstreet/385427/left_out?rel=hpbox">not liberal enough&lt;/a>.</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:30:26 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: Re: Secretary of State Chomsky!</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/11/24/84836/249#17</link>
<description>Given his centrist, inoffensive actions thus far in wouldn't be a stretch to assume that Obama has only two real goals: be the first black man elected President; be the first black man re-elected President.</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:30:41 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: Re: Liberal Circular Firing Squad in Action?</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/11/24/84836/249#16</link>
<description>You could just as easily turn those numbers the other way--since FDR, only one Democrat garnered 54% of the popular vote before Obama, LBJ in '64.</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 4 Dec 2008 20:27:47 EST</pubDate>
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<title>zyxwvutsr: Re: You've Made My Point For Me</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/11/24/84836/249#15</link>
<description>&lt;blockquote>&lt;i>For Joe Lieberman, though, that was too much to ask&lt;/i>&lt;/blockquote>That leaves Liberman right where he should be: A man with a conscience shouldn't belong to a political party that demands loyalty to the exclusion of principle. (And to be c</description>
<pubDate>Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:05:59 EST</pubDate>
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<title>logan: You've Made My Point For Me</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/11/24/84836/249#14</link>
<description>See, that's the problem. I see a difference between asking for loyalty requiring and total devotion. Disagreeing with some of your party's policies or some of your fellow party members is one thing. &lt;a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/</description>
<pubDate>Mon, 1 Dec 2008 02:39:08 EST</pubDate>
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<title>zyxwvutsr: Another Possibility: Partisans are all the same</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/11/24/84836/249#13</link>
<description>&lt;blockquote>&lt;i>In a party where dissent or even asking too many questions is equated with treason, where the party mantra is "You're either with us or against us" and anything less than total devotion is considered betrayal...&lt;p>&#10;...If Joe had been loyal t</description>
<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:50:28 EST</pubDate>
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<title>pO157: Re: Talking Landslides</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/11/24/84836/249#12</link>
<description>&lt;i> &#160;See, I have to wonder if this is true or not. Landslides can be defined a couple ways, and while, yes, Obama didn't match some of the victory totals of the 20th century*, &lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;The winner take all electoral college totals magnify and inflate th</description>
<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:58:24 EST</pubDate>
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<title>logan: Another Possibility: Obama's NOT a Radical Liberal</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/11/24/84836/249#11</link>
<description>Here's a wacky thought: maybe Obama wasn't all that liberal to begin with. &lt;p>&#10;Right from the get-go, the GOP labeled Obama as a dangerously liberal extremist, just as they did to Kerry, Gore, Clinton, Dukakis, and Mondale before him. Why? Because they're </description>
<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:27:44 EST</pubDate>
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<title>JimmyHavok: Just out of curiosity</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/11/24/84836/249#10</link>
<description>Who do you expect to be elected President in 2012, since you've already determined that it won't be Obama?</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:10:17 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Lou: Re: Secretary of State Chomsky!</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/11/24/84836/249#9</link>
<description>&lt;i>This I know: When I raise my hand and take that oath of office, I think the world will look at us differently," he said. "And millions of kids across this country will look at themselves differently."&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;Sounds good to me.</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:04:29 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Steve Urkel: Secretary of State Chomsky!</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/11/24/84836/249#8</link>
<description>While Obama is undoubtedly left wing, as I often pointed out during the campaign, Obama avoided making specfic promises, and his lack of track record means no one really knows what specific goals he's truly committed to. If this &lt;a rel="nofollow" href="htt</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:44:17 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Shy Elf: Re: Liberal Circular Firing Squad in Action?</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/11/24/84836/249#7</link>
<description>So when was the last time we had a successful presidential candidate not catch flack from the more extreme wing of their party for not living up to their expectations? &#160;Successful candidates almost always move towards the center during the general ele</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 11:52:57 EST</pubDate>
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<title>joshv: Re: Liberal Circular Firing Squad in Action?</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/11/24/84836/249#6</link>
<description>So both the &#160;far-ish left and the far-ish right hate Obama? &#160;I'd say that's just about perfect. &#160;&lt;p>&#10;In a past, much more healthy life, I used to lead marathon training groups, and had a maxim - when half the people were complaining I was go</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 11:52:15 EST</pubDate>
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<title>uncarved block: Talking Landslides</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/11/24/84836/249#5</link>
<description>&#160; &#160; &#160;See, I have to wonder if this is true or not. Landslides can be defined a couple ways, and while, yes, Obama didn't match some of the victory totals of the 20th century*, the art and science of campaigning has also changed quite a bit s</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 10:51:23 EST</pubDate>
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<title>skeptic: Re: Liberal Circular Firing Squad in Action?</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/11/24/84836/249#4</link>
<description>As you probably recall, the most popular President in US history was FDR, elected to four terms of office (and could have had more, had he not died in office). &#160;America faced two very terrible problems under FDR, the Great Depression and WW II, and wh</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:47:03 EST</pubDate>
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<title>pO157: Re: Liberal Circular Firing Squad in Action?</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/11/24/84836/249#3</link>
<description>&lt;i> Honestly, I don't expect Obama to be re-elected in four years. &lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;I don't either. I would bet money on this. Americans tend to have a very short memory, and while the people on TnT and other places like it enjoy deliberating for hours over their v</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:07:31 EST</pubDate>
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<title>harzerkatze: Re: Liberal Circular Firing Squad in Action?</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/11/24/84836/249#2</link>
<description>&lt;blockquote>or a centrist that will doom the progressive left to another four (or probably eight) years of marginalization?&lt;/blockquote>Honestly, I don't expect Obama to be re-elected in four years. Given, the GOP seems to have lost their footing entirely,</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:53:13 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Acefantastik: MSNBC: now 80% more cloying!</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/11/24/84836/249#1</link>
<description>I have enjoyed watching various guests (and hosts) on MSNBC approach tears due to Obama's lack of fervor. &#160;My pretend-girlfriend Rachel Maddow so far has seemed to retain her detached amusement, but today she had the blonde one from firedoglake on, an</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:40:36 EST</pubDate>
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