Trying To Combat Statutory Rape - This Time With Sexy Results. (Trees And Things)

ms sue: Re: consenting to sex

Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:06:38 EST

See my reply to thefadd.

postillion: Re: consenting to sex

Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:40:28 EST

There is also res ipsa loquitor [the thing speaks for itself] in law that can be applied in cases where it's clearly child molestation or rape of a child as opposed to statutory rape.

In other words, I think that most everyone can agree that a child who

JimmyHavok: McLovin's address

Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:05:09 EST

"Momona" means "fat."

ms sue: Re: consenting to sex

Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:05:25 EST

There are children, and then there are adolescents who are under the age of consent. It is very hard to think of a situation where sex with a pre-adolescent child should be ok. In fact, I am all for that being illegal.

So I'm n

thefadd: Re: consenting to sex

Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:14:33 EST

While it is despicable for an adult to have sex with a teenager it is a whole other level over and above any other considerations for engaging in sexual relations with someone who is prepubescent. The fact is, once humans hit puberty, it's perfectly natura

PenitenziAgite: Re: consenting to sex

Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:41:09 EST

There are children, and then there are adolescents who are under the age of consent. It is very hard to think of a situation where sex with a pre-adolescent child should be ok. In fact, I am all for that being illegal.

However,

pO157: Don't drink in NY then.

Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:34:16 EST

Can somebody with some legal chops tell me what happens if a 16 year old who looks 20 comes on to you in a bar, and you take her home and sleep with her. Can you be prosecuted for statutory rape? What if you ask her age and she responds "21

delete me: Re: Creepiest ad campaign ever

Thu, 7 Feb 2008 03:09:33 EST
Or just get all your dating done while you're still in elementary school.
Not applicable for those who've been held back the last 7 years.

JimmyHavok: Re: Creepiest ad campaign ever

Thu, 7 Feb 2008 02:20:31 EST
If she's in a bar, asking to see ID won't do you much good, since even if she shows you a fake, you're still screwed according to the doctrine of "you shoulda known better." So I guess it's best not to go home with anyone you don't know from elementa

joshv: Re: Creepiest ad campaign ever

Wed, 6 Feb 2008 22:14:58 EST
Yeah, I don't imagine anyone under 21 has ever managed to get into a bar.

JimmyHavok: Re: Creepiest ad campaign ever

Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:56:24 EST
If she's in a bar, she ought to be at least 21. In fact, that's my cut-off age for sex, because she's going to have to go fetch a sixpack in the morning.

thefadd: Re: You should not have been wearing those clothes

Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:41:13 EST
I dunno, there's still, "Let me drive you to the gun mart," cause that always opens up a rather wide range of options.

PenitenziAgite: Re: You should not have been wearing those clothes

Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:10:52 EST
Wow. That sure doesn't leave much wiggle room does it?

stevetherobot: Re: Most Excellent Word.

Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:03:52 EST

Is it going to make someone pause and say (as you seem to be saying) "hey, I'd better have proof of age?"
The impression I get is not that they are trying to encourage guys to make sure the girls they sleep with are old enough.

ms sue: Re: consenting to sex

Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:02:55 EST
I see that you insist. So be it. Yes, you are basically right about our disagreement. Let me highlight your words to which I still take great exception:
Anyway in re: to favoring no legal sanctions whatsover against adults having sex with children of

wetkarma: consenting to sex

Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:48:33 EST

While we may have touched on this exact situation, our discussions have been on a different, broader aspect altogether. If you want me to dredge that up here, I will. Otherwise, I'll stay on topic.
Allow me. Here is a Umm hey babe, before we head to my place, do you mind if we, umm swing by the cop shop?
Huh? Why?
Just need to run a background check, uh whats your social insurance number?
Wow It

joshv: Re: Creepiest ad campaign ever

Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:04:39 EST
The fact that a man, with perfectly normal sexual urges, who meets a sexual mature girl in a bar, does all that is in his power to ensure that she's 18 or over, and then sleeps with her, could then end up in prison and labeled a sex offender for life strik

Degee: Re: Most Excellent Word.

Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:08:25 EST
"because pedophiles aren't interested in the least in adult sized body parts. "
this is backed up by Humbert from Nabokov's Lolita:
For Humbert, a nymphet is in the earliest stages of puberty - "The bud-stage of breast development appears earl

MayorBob: Re: Most Excellent Word.

Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:05:28 EST
It strikes me as wrong on a different level than the photos in the print ad. I'm sure the geniuses who came up with those panties thought it was edgy, clever, and ironic. Worn on an adult, it might be all of that. Worn on a child and it's

zyxwvutsr: Re: What a bitch!

Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:53:36 EST
Offtopic?! My ass! It's taken verbatim from the website of the Family Violence Partnership of Milwaukee...you know, the group mentioned in the very first sentence of the writeup?
Is it really that bad? You must be overreacting.

zyxwvutsr: Re: Most Excellent Word.

Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:49:58 EST

As a person who voted for the number three statement in the poll, queasy just doesn't quite explain how I felt when I saw those photos
How does Misery. As a person who voted for the number three statement in the poll, queasy just doesn't quite explain how I felt when I saw those photos. I'm looking at the faces of ten

wetkarma: Re: Creepiest ad campaign ever

Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:17:47 EST

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Can somebody with some legal chops tell me what happens if a 16 year old who looks 20 comes on to you in a bar, and you take her home and sleep with her. Can you be prosecuted for statutory rape?
Yes.

What if you ask h

zyxwvutsr: You should not have been wearing those clothes

Wed, 6 Feb 2008 07:43:52 EST
Helpful hints about what not to say:
* What a big jerk! What a bitch!
* At least they care enough to get jealous.
* That happened a long ti

joshv: Creepiest ad campaign ever

Wed, 6 Feb 2008 07:31:37 EST
I think what's making us all feel oogy is that we've never actually seen anyone who looks like that in real life. Typically if a girl is sexually mature at a younger age and looks older than she is, all of her looks older. I've never personally