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<title>Save The Coral. (Trees And Things)</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054</link>
<description>There really isn't much in the way of good news for the world's &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coral">corals&lt;/a>. </description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 06:38:45 EST</pubDate>
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<title>3fingerspointback: More dive stories</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#29</link>
<description>My cousin's family has gone to the atoll of Rangiroa a number of times, most recently to get married. &#160;I went along for that trip. &#160;I also understood the diving was good there, so I got Open Water certified for the purpose of diving on the trip t</description>
<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:04:13 EST</pubDate>
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<title>delete me: Some coral can save themselves, perhaps?</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#28</link>
<description>News article on the BBC about certain coral reefs being able to &lt;a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7234730.stm">maintain the water temperature&lt;/a> at a level that protects them.</description>
<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 01:18:10 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Shy Elf: Re: Save The Coral.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#27</link>
<description>Temperature variations are smallest near the equator, because the heat input from the sun varies the least with the season there. &#160;If the earth starts heating up and the corals move north (or south in the Southern Hemisphere), eventually you get to a </description>
<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:21:32 EST</pubDate>
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<title>skeptic: Re: I'm sure many will object, but ...</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#26</link>
<description>If we as a species should ever decide that the survival of coral is more important than that of ourselves, then yes, we should open the dikes of northern Europe and see if we can create some nice new shallow seas in which coral might be able to flourish. &amp;</description>
<pubDate>Sat, 9 Feb 2008 08:54:04 EST</pubDate>
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<title>JimmyHavok: Re: A Pinoy Coral Story</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#25</link>
<description>&lt;i>either we accept that not everything can be/is worth preserving, or we engage in a sisyphean attempts to hold back the tide.&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;It seems that you mean "nothing is worth saving," since corals are a very important part of the ocean ecosystem.</description>
<pubDate>Sat, 9 Feb 2008 05:01:44 EST</pubDate>
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<title>secretpath: Re: Save The Coral.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#24</link>
<description>The answer to your first question is no, not much. The answer to your second question is yes, a lot. Corals actually play a large role in &lt;i>creating&lt;/i> those nice shallow seas that we associate with tropical paradise. That nice white sand that extends fr</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:20:55 EST</pubDate>
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<title>pO157: Re: When Diving, Don't be a Farking Retard</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#23</link>
<description>Point taken.</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:07:02 EST</pubDate>
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<title>port1080: Re: When Diving, Don't be a Farking Retard</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#22</link>
<description>&lt;i>especially since I was a horribly uncoordinated child&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;This changed, when?&lt;br>&#10;.&lt;br>&#10;.&lt;br>&#10;.&lt;br>&#10;.&lt;br>&#10;.&lt;br>&#10;.&lt;br>&#10;.&lt;br>&#10;.&lt;br>&#10;:-)~</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:53:51 EST</pubDate>
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<title>pO157: When Diving, Don't be a Farking Retard</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#21</link>
<description>Sorry, I mean intellectually disabled.&lt;p>&#10;I recently got certified as a &lt;a href="http://www.padi.com/padi/default.aspx">SCUBA open water diver&lt;/a>. You should do it, it'll change your life*. Anywho, the process involves a textbook, and initial pool session</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:48:29 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Lou: Re: Save The Coral.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#20</link>
<description>&lt;i>Wear a long sleeve shirt and carry a parasol.&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;Make sure it's a &lt;a href="http://www.greatparasolz.com/s=greatparasolz.com/category/z.parasols/?gclid=CJyOkMrCtZECFQ2nGgodQkFreQ">pretty parasol&lt;/a> and you'll be the hit of the beach!</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:23:10 EST</pubDate>
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<title>joshv: Re: Save The Coral.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#19</link>
<description>Some questions - &#160;does the warmth of the water effect current and wave action? &#160;Does the coral itself impact wave action and water temperature? &#160;&lt;p>&#10;I am not suggesting that suddenly we are going to find coral reefs off Manhattan, but I find</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:23:25 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: Re: Save The Coral.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#18</link>
<description>Sunscreen doesn't prevent skin cancer. Wear a long sleeve shirt and carry a parasol.</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:53:47 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: Re: A Pinoy Coral Story</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#17</link>
<description>Then they should execute the mayor and cut off the fisherman's hands like the Chinese would do...because that's the price of political progress.</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:49:40 EST</pubDate>
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<title>delete me: I see what you did there</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#16</link>
<description>Slight error in the write-up.&lt;p>&#10;"react with dormant algae to produce viruses "&lt;p>&#10;should be&lt;p>&#10;"react with algae to unleash previously dormant viruses "&lt;p>&#10;Dammit. All after I wasted a few sheets of seaweed wrap and half a bottle of Coppertone.</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:47:05 EST</pubDate>
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<title>delete me: Re: Save The Coral.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#15</link>
<description>Wait, so I can make a virus by mixing the sunscreen and seaweed I have at home? Did they mean something else?</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:43:23 EST</pubDate>
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<title>delete me: I'm sure many will object, but ...</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#14</link>
<description>[...] &lt;i>and northern waters do not really have comparable regions even if they do have continental shelves.&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;What if we just opened up all the dikes in northern Europe?</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:39:21 EST</pubDate>
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<title>zyxwvutsr: Re: Save The Coral.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#13</link>
<description>&lt;blockquote>&lt;i>...the humble Petosky stone, fossilized coral, found abundance at 45+ degrees latitude&lt;/i>&lt;/blockquote>&lt;i>&lt;b>Found&lt;/b>&lt;/i> at 45 degrees latitude, but not &lt;i>&lt;b>made&lt;/b>&lt;/i> at 45 degrees latitude. In the &lt;a href="http://www.paleoportal.org/</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:12:56 EST</pubDate>
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<title>skeptic: Re: Save The Coral.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#12</link>
<description>It's not really a question of there being NO shallow water in northern seas. &#160;There are lots of shallow continental shelves, but close to the continent the water also has more wave activity and a very different kind of local ecology which can disrupt </description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:02:43 EST</pubDate>
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<title>joshv: Re: Save The Coral.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#11</link>
<description>Ah, I see, there is no shallow water in northern seas. &#160;One wonders how the land manages to pull itself out of the water then - shear underwater cliffs?</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:47:09 EST</pubDate>
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<title>joshv: Re: Save The Coral.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#10</link>
<description>This stands in direct contradiction to the observed fact that coral has survived massive climactic changes in the past. &#160;Witness the humble Petosky stone, fossilized coral, found abundance at 45+ degrees latitude.</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:37:20 EST</pubDate>
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<title>skeptic: Re: Save The Coral.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#9</link>
<description>I believe that the biggest obstacle to the migration of coral to new locations that have become warm enough even as their old locations are overheating, is the depth of the water. &#160;Coral requires relatively shallow water in which to grow, because most</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 11:41:35 EST</pubDate>
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<title>zyxwvutsr: Re: Save The Coral.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#8</link>
<description>No, because the increase in temperature is happening too quickly for the coral to migrate. Coral, like all organisms, needs not only an environment of a certain temperature, but an entire ecosystem in order to thrive. There could be newly warm areas of the</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:47:36 EST</pubDate>
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<title>joshv: Re: Save The Coral.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#7</link>
<description>There is one thing I've never understood about coral bleaching due to climate change. &#160;As I understand it, the vast majority of coastal oceans are far too cold for coral. &#160;If one region becomes too hot for coral because of global scale changes in</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:36:47 EST</pubDate>
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<title>zyxwvutsr: Re: With Characteristic Brilliance</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#6</link>
<description>Did you know that is was Charles Darwin who came up with the first successful &lt;a href="http://www.darwin-literature.com/Coral_Reefs/index.html">theory of coral atoll formation&lt;/a>? Yeah, true story. His theory survives today with few changes.</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:24:19 EST</pubDate>
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<title>MayorBob: I agree, it is the tragedy of the commons</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#5</link>
<description>But, hopefully we stop short of saying "oh well, that's the way it is and ever shall be." &#160;Because, at some point in the process of digging a hole you really should recognize you're digging a grave, after all. &#160;The Japanese fisherman can take his</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:10:13 EST</pubDate>
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<title>wetkarma: Re: A Pinoy Coral Story</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#4</link>
<description>Well as we've noted on your prior &lt;a href="http://www.plastic.com/article.html;sid=03/10/21/15531498">Plastic story on cod fishing&lt;/a> - its really a tragedy of the commons scenario. Each individual fisherman (especially the local pinoy fishermen) is proba</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:54:09 EST</pubDate>
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<title>MayorBob: Re: A Pinoy Coral Story</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#3</link>
<description>Thanks for that bit of information. &#160;But I wonder if the situation can just be sloughed off to "well, that's the price of progress?" &#160;I guess I'm caught by the rebuttal question, "progress, what price?" &#160;Everyone who is engaged in commerce o</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:34:37 EST</pubDate>
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<title>skeeter1: Re: Save The Coral.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#2</link>
<description>&lt;i>"The murder weapon here looks to be four chemicals contained in sunscreens which react with dormant algae to produce viruses which replicate and kill corals they come into contact with."&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;That might be, but as someone who has gone through a couple</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:19:40 EST</pubDate>
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<title>wetkarma: A Pinoy Coral Story</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/2/7/95028/31054#1</link>
<description>In the Phillipines ( and I suspect throughout South East Asia), there is a method of fishing call &lt;a href="http://www.eoearth.org/article/Coral_degradation_through_destructive_fishing_practices">Muroami &lt;/a> that essentially destroys the reef by hammering </description>
<pubDate>Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:46:43 EST</pubDate>
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