Brotherly Love Is A Good Thing ... Unless It Gets Icky. (Trees And Things)

MayorBob: Re: And what do we get for our trouble?

Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:10:44 EST

And a nasty run of leukemia.

Lou: And what do we get for our trouble?

Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:47:09 EST

Dysplasia of the hip and the Hapsburg Lip

PenitenziAgite: Re: Hey Urkel

Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:59:06 EST

Purebred dogs, too.

PenitenziAgite: Re: Who really cares? Who's willing to try?

Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:32:17 EST

Lots of people enjoy rape and coercion themed fetish play, and bondage and all manner of kinks out there. A lot of people do daddy/daughter and other inappropriate relationship role-playing. The difference here is that it's fake. Incest m

skeeter1: Re: Difficult...

Sat, 15 Mar 2008 07:40:41 EST

Difficult, indeed.

I had a serious crush on my first-cousin many years ago. We fooled around a bit, but never "did the deed".

Was it wrong? Probably, but WTF, when you're teenagers with raging hormones, stuff happens.

Now

skeptic: Re: the criteria for goodness

Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:16:46 EST

I did not precisely define what I meant by an offensive TV show. One of the problems with trying to decide what constitutes offensive television (or offensive anything) is that there are so many different ways of offending people. There are the

Steve Urkel: Re: the criteria for goodness

Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:29:57 EST

I'm confused when you say "would seem to be morally acceptable", then compare it to offensive TV shows. Just because something is tolerated doesn't mean it's morally acceptable.

"utopian, logically managed world (that I am prone to dream of)"

I'm pro

skeptic: the criteria for goodness

Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:58:41 EST

It would be an exaggeration to say that in advanced liberal societies, health has become the only criterion for goodness, however, health is regarded as very important, and rightly so. Few things damage one's quality of life so much as ill health. &n

skeptic: incest fiction

Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:20:28 EST

Furthermore, just because some people like to read fiction about incest is no reason to conclude that they approve of, or are not disgusted by incest. They may be reading that fiction precisely because it DOES disgust them. After all, there is

thefadd: Re: Hey Urkel

Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:29:38 EST

that's the way the royals do it

thefadd: Re: Who really cares? Who's willing to try?

Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:26:21 EST

I'm not of the opinion that it happens quite so infrequently. Incest has a lengthy literary history, the most famous of course being Oedipus, and I personally just doubt that that is merely a morbid, unexplored fascination. While never a part of my family,

TonedEff: Re: Who really cares? Who's willing to try?

Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:52:15 EST

As infrequently as it happens, I have to agree with Urkel on this. Incest, particularly incest of the variety exemplified here is almost universally taboo. Just because incest stories seem so popular on an online sex-story website, doesn't mean

JimmyHavok: Hey Urkel

Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:08:22 EST

Incest is just the ultimate method of maintaining racial purity.

thefadd: Re: Personal Experience

Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:49:20 EST

A friend of mine tells a story about her parent's family. All the cousins were sitting around discussing childhood sexual exploration when one of them blurts out, "You mean you didn't just eat each other as kids?" There are members of this family who are q

Some Things Are Better Left Unsaid: Personal Experience

Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:06:18 EST

I think that the best compromise might be to allow relationships between brothers and sisters (or brothers and brothers, or sisters and sisters) once they are over the age of 21, but maintain the prohibition for those under that age. This should substan

Steve Urkel: People still read pornography?

Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:06:14 EST
If it weren't taboo, they wouldn't find it arousing.
You're right to point out that smoking bans are premised on a moral urge. In advanced liberal socieites health has become the only criterion for goodness.

Some Things Are Better Left Unsaid: Re: Who really cares? Who's willing to try?

Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:55:29 EST
Society almost unanimously finds incest disgusting, that's reason enough to make it illegal.
Are you so sure of this? The "incest" category is the second most popular at L

port1080: Re: Difficult...

Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:45:54 EST
What justifies prohibting people from procreating merely because the children might be genetically unfit? It's legal for people who have been diagnosed with genetic diseases to have children if they want. Similarly dwarves can have kids.
True,

Steve Urkel: Who really cares? Who's willing to try?

Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:44:44 EST
It's undenianbly true that the prohibition on incest infringes on the happiness of Patrick. So what? Who cares if he's happy? As a non-liberal, I'm not obligated to invent some rationalist reason for why Patrick can't hump his sister, nor, because I can't,

Steve Urkel: Re: Difficult...

Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:29:35 EST
What justifies prohibting people from procreating merely because the children might be genetically unfit? It's legal for people who have been diagnosed with genetic diseases to have children if they want. Similarly dwarves can have kids.

port1080: Difficult...

Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:23:31 EST
I don't see a strong reason to keep couples such as Patrick & Susan from simply being together (although I do think there might be something to requiring them not to have children together), but I do think that there are issues that need to be though o