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<title>All Bangers, No Mash? UK Rolls Out Biometric National ID Card (Trees And Things)</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/3/6/171719/0129</link>
<description>&lt;P>The plans have been announced, the decision made. First they'll single out the &lt;strike>Jews&lt;/strike>, foreigners, academics, and those who want party jobs. And after all of this, what will  you do when they come for you? &lt;/P>
Hysteria you say.</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 7 Mar 2008 21:10:31 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: The Sisyphean Theorum Of Technology</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/3/6/171719/0129#8</link>
<description>Any modification to a system which increases the faith of individuals in that system to not be hacked, will lower the guard of the system's physical gatekeepers in an equal and opposite amount so that the likelihood that any given system will be hacked sta</description>
<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:43:47 EST</pubDate>
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<title>port1080: Re: Do it, but do it right</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/3/6/171719/0129#7</link>
<description>I agree with you, but I guess my point is that they can do this stuff already for the most part.  They can already data mine information about legal citizens based on your SS#.  How much more leverage does this national ID give them?</description>
<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:15:09 EST</pubDate>
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<title>pO157: Re: Do it, but do it right</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/3/6/171719/0129#6</link>
<description>&lt;i> First, there needs to be well defined accountability standards for everyone with access to the ID database and court oversight over how the data is used. I would also like to see a firewall between the database and law enforcement - the government shou</description>
<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:52:18 EST</pubDate>
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<title>MayorBob: Re: Just a question about REAL ID.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/3/6/171719/0129#5</link>
<description>I guess another concern I have regarding REAL ID that it stopped being a &lt;i>national&lt;/i> security issue the minute the federal government backed off of funding it in anyway. &#160;Essentially this program, so vital for the national defense and security, ha</description>
<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:33:16 EST</pubDate>
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<title>3fingerspointback: I'm not happy about this</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/3/6/171719/0129#4</link>
<description>How can I be happy about it, when I have to wear a neutral expression when they take my photo?&lt;p>&#10;REAL ID is a security blanket, and at its very best will make no difference at all. &#160;As already noted, the real terrorists got in to the US legally. &amp;nbs</description>
<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 05:26:13 EST</pubDate>
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<title>port1080: Re: Just a question about REAL ID.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/3/6/171719/0129#3</link>
<description>They all entered legally but many of them overstayed their visas once they got here and some left and then came back illegally.  As you note, though, the matter of ID really wasn't much of an issue in their cases.  However, false IDs have been used by othe</description>
<pubDate>Sun, 9 Mar 2008 13:29:49 EST</pubDate>
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<title>MayorBob: Just a question about REAL ID.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/3/6/171719/0129#2</link>
<description>Is it or is it not the case that all of the 9/11 terrorists entered the US legally? &#160;If this is the case, how does having a REAL ID system accomplish a compelling state purpose? &#160;That should really be the rationale for having this, or any other, </description>
<pubDate>Sat, 8 Mar 2008 18:02:26 EST</pubDate>
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<title>port1080: Do it, but do it right</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/3/6/171719/0129#1</link>
<description>I'm not a big fan of national IDs, but I do think some of the opposition to them is a little hysterical.  If someone wants to steal your identity, it's easy enough already to do so.  If anything, having a single ID standard will make it a bit harder, I wou</description>
<pubDate>Sat, 8 Mar 2008 10:34:32 EST</pubDate>
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