The Schoolhouse Can't Be Your House Unless There's A Teacher There. (Trees And Things)

ivyafire: Re: The Schoolhouse Can't Be Your House...

Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:43:47 EST

I would've homeschooled them so they could actually get a good education. Unless he could afford a private school there.
That is the sad truth.

ivyafire: Re: The Schoolhouse Can't Be Your House...

Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:41:24 EST

yes.

delete me: Re: The Schoolhouse Can't Be Your House...

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:57:25 EST

I met a black man who homeschooled his kids because of the racism here.

I would've homeschooled them so they could actually get a good education. Unless he could afford a private school there.

delete me: Re: The Schoolhouse Can't Be Your House...

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:56:03 EST

Yeah, the awesome thing about Hawai'i is that supposedly all their ethnic joke-making is in good fun, and is somehow good for the people making the jokes and being the butt of the same.

Question about your sigline: Didn't the ancient Hawai'ians kill yo

ivyafire: Re: The Schoolhouse Can't Be Your House...

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:32:30 EST

I tend to agree, though where I live a lot of parents don't. I met a black man who homeschooled his kids because of the racism here. All of the races tend to be very segregated here, and he said he just didn't want his kids exposed to it any lo

ivyafire: Re: The Schoolhouse Can't Be Your House Unless The

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 01:29:00 EST

I don't believe a lot of homeschooled kids are mentally challenged. A lot of people homeschool because they're sick of school violence, or they're anti-vaccines, or because they believe they can do a better job without having to deal with disci

Shy Elf: Re: standards

Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:05:12 EST

And laws always translate into good teaching?

JimmyHavok: Re: standards

Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:14:55 EST

I don't know about your state, but in mine, the Department of Education is required by law to spend whatever it takes to give handicapped students an education.

If kids are handicapped, they need the help of a trained educator even more than average kid

uncarved block: See What You Want, Hear What You Want

Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:16:35 EST

You munged your link, but it was still good reading. Interesting to see- here and elsewhere- how quickly the particulars of the decision become irrelevant once the topic of home schooling is introduced. The comments at Malkin looked, sadly, f

skeptic: Re: standards

Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:04:41 EST

That's a good point. When a student is tested, the results reflect several different variables, which would include the ability and the diligence of the student as well as the skill and diligence of the teacher (even assuming that the test itself is

ivyafire: Re: standards

Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:15:36 EST

They are. In most states you have to prove they are doing something, and they do the standardized tests. There are rules for homeschooling.

Hell, the reason I don't homeschool is because I don't feel qualified, (well, that, and I thin

Shy Elf: Re: standards

Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:03:45 EST

and so long as they are a grade ahead of their age , they can remain homeschooled, but if they fall behind that, they need to go to a certified school of some sort.

This will work great for the significant fraction of kids who are h

shane: Re: standards

Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:58:27 EST

Here is the thing about testing - when a kid gets interested in math all they want to do is math. They'll do math and only math for months or years. By the time their passion for it is exhausted they will be years ahead of others their age. &nb

JimmyHavok: Re: standards

Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:09:27 EST

Never heard of it. It seems to me if they were the homeschoolers would be pitching a fit.

thefadd: Re: standards

Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:04:39 EST

I'd propose that homeschool kids should have to be tested every year

They aren't?

JimmyHavok: standards

Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:44:47 EST

If you want to homeschool your kids you should have to demonstrate that they aren't falling behind their grade level. I'd propose that homeschool kids should have to be tested every year, and so long as they are a grade ahead of their age, they can r

JimmyHavok: Re: where is our children larnin?

Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:12:32 EST

My girlfriend and I were both raised with a sort of benign neglect: as long as we got home for dinner, it was all good. I used to ramble for miles after school and on the weekends. But my mom must have been paying some attention, because I alwa

shane: Re: where is our children larnin?

Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:44:40 EST

Kids will mimic everything they see, good or bad. So yes kids that are getting lots of bad examples may improve - school is useful if your home life is abusive or neglectful. It takes an incredible amount of effort to raise good kids.

JimmyHavok: where is our children larnin?

Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:25:17 EST

If you are having trouble controlling your kids before you send them to school it is going to be even worse after!

Wait up. You say that kids learn from example. So if they are hard to control before school, where are they getting th

ms sue: Re: The Schoolhouse Can't Be Your House Unless The

Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:19:11 EST

I noted that the the Mrs. Long had only a 10th grade education. She does not sound like a person who is qualified to teach her or any other children much past the very early grades.

Nor do I, apparently.

thefadd: Re: You can't stop children from learning

Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:32:23 EST

There's a lot you can learn in school. For example, Tasman gave all the boys a biology lesson in first grade when she would go behind the climbing block and lift up her skirt. I certainly wouldn't have learned that at home.

Fourth grade was an excell

joshv: Re: You can't stop children from learning

Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:13:36 EST

I'd agree that up through the 6th grade I didn't really learn much that my mother couldn't have taught me in her spare time. I brought myself up to a 12th grade reading level plundering the local library's 'young adult' section.

I was actually hom

Jackkeefe: Re: Bad Reporting

Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:33:37 EST

According to the Ace of Spades Blog http://ace.mu.nu/archives/257230.php, the L.A. Times original characterization of the decesion was incorrect. According to Ace of Spades:

"The LA Time

shane: You can't stop children from learning

Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:44:41 EST

My oldest child is about to enter school. We have two school choices on Cortes, both schools have around 50-70 kids in them and they each get about a 1/3 of the school-age kids around here. They are both considered to be good schools. The

ms sue: Re: The Schoolhouse Can't Be Your House Unless The

Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:47:41 EST

I'm personally not a fan at all of homeschooling. But I don't think this decision will stand. What may come out of it, though, is a stronger enforcement of existing rules.

I don't have a link, but I remember reading this story in the LAT a few days ago

wetkarma: of accreditation and ability

Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:44:29 EST

There is a wide variety of points worth commenting/questioning:

It only seems reasonable to me that a person responsible for the education of someone be certified to some standard -- similar to the requirements of my plumber, my acco

skeeter1: Re: The Schoolhouse Can't Be Your House...

Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:13:17 EST

"They are homeschooled, primarily by a parent, due to religious beliefs or dissatisfaction with public schools."

That's a tough call. Homeschooling is allowed in Ohio. There is one family around the corner from me who are homeschoolin