War weariness shuts down West Coast ports, Mayor Flees in Panic! (Trees And Things)

pO157: Bullets for a shotgun?

Sat, 3 May 2008 17:11:20 EST

I have the opposite problem. I have a case of 12 gauge shells, various boxes of 12 gauge 00 buck, two gun cleaning kits, and a palette of clay pigeons in my garage or basement...... but no firearms.

Yes, I have several family members who are big into sh

postillion: Re: (subqueue comment)

Sat, 3 May 2008 15:23:16 EST

Blackouts are a different game. The people and (many) communications lines are still in place for law enforcement, even if their capacity is strained. During a strike, everything would work normally, save the certainty that no help would arrive. Also, b

port1080: Re: (subqueue comment)

Sat, 3 May 2008 14:44:31 EST
Yes.

gerrymander: Re: (subqueue comment)

Sat, 3 May 2008 14:00:55 EST
I was stuck in Manhattan during the large blackout, and was pleasantly surprised there was no looting or any problems besides being stuck inside my office building overnight.
Blackouts are a different game. The people and (many) communications li

MC Nally: Re: (subqueue comment)

Sat, 3 May 2008 13:41:24 EST

...yeah...I mean, my parents don't hunt and aren't gun nuts or anything, but they still have about a dozen hand-me down guns from my grandparents.
That's nice. Do they have any bullets?

postillion: Re: (subqueue comment)

Sat, 3 May 2008 12:59:17 EST
A one day strike by police, on the other hand, is an immediate problem because every person with a significant enough criminal intent would think, "Woo-hoo! Free day at Best Buy!" or worse.
In the cities, maybe.
I was stuck in Manhattan duri

port1080: Re: (subqueue comment)

Sat, 3 May 2008 12:21:24 EST
Perhaps rural TnTers like Port can speak up, but those places tended to be more independent anyway. Who needs cops when the homeowners are all heavily armed, and in the event of civil unrest will likely be moreso?

...yeah...I mean, my pa

pO157: Re: (subqueue comment)

Sat, 3 May 2008 09:29:45 EST
A one day strike by police, on the other hand, is an immediate problem because every person with a significant enough criminal intent would think, "Woo-hoo! Free day at Best Buy!" or worse.
In the cities, maybe. Then again, we have the National

gerrymander: Re: (subqueue comment)

Fri, 2 May 2008 16:33:51 EST
a strike by the longshoresmen could shut the country down.
Only over the medium-to-long term, as I noted above. Eventually, warehouses would deplete stockpiles of stuff, sure. And if the longshoremen's union timed the strike correctly, some indus

profwhat: Re: (subqueue comment)

Fri, 2 May 2008 14:59:56 EST
This wasn't a war protest; Iraq was just a convenient excuse for a show of union force that was going to happen anyway. "At the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach on Thursday morning, however,

MC Nally: Re: ZOMG! The dockworkers took a day off.

Fri, 2 May 2008 13:34:25 EST

Perhaps because even the mainstream media recognized manufactured news when they see it?
Oh, Mayor, you crack me up..

thefadd: Re: mainstream media

Fri, 2 May 2008 12:35:43 EST
Great headlines and pics. Really show the power and dedication of the ILWU.

profwhat: mainstream media

Fri, 2 May 2008 12:22:51 EST
It's in the New York Times, LA Times, and the wire servi

pO157: Re: (subqueue comment)

Fri, 2 May 2008 12:17:06 EST
As logan pointed out in the subQ, this is the biggest demonstration against the war to date by organized labor. Although it happened on May Day, it is still significant due to its size and the workers' important position in commerce.
Say 25,000 cops to

gerrymander: Re: (subqueue comment)

Fri, 2 May 2008 10:32:19 EST
How come this isn't in the mainstream press barely a day after it ended?
In part, because a one-day delay in the delivery of goods just doesn't matter enough to cause a blip to the economy. It might have mattered somewhat if a large quantity of p

MayorBob: ZOMG! The dockworkers took a day off.

Fri, 2 May 2008 08:19:55 EST
I guess the impressive part of this is that the ILWU has the spunk to do something like this. The less impressive thing is that: 1. It's been in the works for weeks, 2. It was an orchestrated event, and 3. They only