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<title>Bush Speech Causes Campus Rebellion - Among The Faculty. (Trees And Things)</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/5/21/17646/9602</link>
<description>President George W. Bush is only delivering two university commencement addresses this year.  One will be at the US Air Force Academy and the other is at &lt;a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.furman.edu/">Furman University&lt;/a> in Columbia, South Carolina.  Considering that Bush is Commander in Chief for everyone graduating at the Air Force Academy, you may expect that speech to pass without incident.  Considering that Furman is located in the heart of the reddest of red areas in the country and the school has </description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 06:14:06 EST</pubDate>
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<title>zyxwvutsr: Re: Ah, Academia!</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/5/21/17646/9602#12</link>
<description>&lt;blockquote>&lt;i>Does it receive any kind of federal money?&lt;/i>&lt;/blockquote>Yeah, that's a good point: I need not have mentioned that Furman U. isn't part of the government. It suffices that it is not Congress; even federal agencies, when acting as employers</description>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 18:55:12 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Lou: Re: Ah, Academia!</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/5/21/17646/9602#11</link>
<description>Does it receive any kind of federal money?</description>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 11:59:25 EST</pubDate>
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<title>zyxwvutsr: Re: Ah, Academia!</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/5/21/17646/9602#10</link>
<description>&lt;blockquote>&lt;i>...you can't contract away rights guaranteed you by the Constitution&lt;/i>&lt;/blockquote>Here's what is guaranteed by the Constitution:&lt;blockquote>&lt;tt>Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech...&lt;/tt>&lt;/blockquote>Furman Univer</description>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 10:08:10 EST</pubDate>
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<title>uncarved block: I Suspect You're Wrong</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/5/21/17646/9602#9</link>
<description>&#160; &#160; Been a while since I stepped on a campus, but I knew a few teachers back in the day. I would be surprised if compulsory attendance was in the contract for anything below the level of assistant dean, and that even if it was it would be a dismi</description>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 09:39:28 EST</pubDate>
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<title>DEMachina: Re: Ah, Academia!</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/5/21/17646/9602#8</link>
<description>Even if that's true, you can't contract away rights guaranteed you by the Constitution.&lt;p>&#10;I think &lt;b>thefadd&lt;/b> said it better than I could. &#160;The students are welcome to counter-protest, but it's ridiculous to not allow the professors to do so. &amp;nbs</description>
<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 06:53:47 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: Re: Let Them Walk.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/5/21/17646/9602#7</link>
<description>&lt;i>Nothing really jumped off the page at me other than wondering how many stayed awake during Bud Selig's stirring words to the Class of 2008 at Bethany College and hoping Tulane got a group rate from Mary Matalin and James Carville.&lt;/i>&#13;&#10;&lt;p>&#13;&#10;Oh dear god.</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 22:16:37 EST</pubDate>
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<title>MayorBob: Let Them Walk.</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/5/21/17646/9602#6</link>
<description>Yes, not showing up is a matter of their Free Speech, because they believe they're saying something meaningful by not showing up to say anything at all.  Not showing up for commencement myself, I really don't know who UofD's commencement speaker was the ye</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 16:43:59 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: The Issue Is A Matter Of Respect, Not Rights</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/5/21/17646/9602#5</link>
<description>I don't really think it rises to the level of a free speech issue. Some places do require faculty to &lt;a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.umsl.edu/services/academic/policy/commencement.html">attend commencement&lt;/a> and some places &lt;a rel="nofollow" href="htt</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:51:56 EST</pubDate>
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<title>gerrymander: Re: Ah, Academia!</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/5/21/17646/9602#4</link>
<description>&lt;i>So you're okay with a school's flagrantly violating its faculty's constitutional rights to free expression and free association?&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;Nope. I think that the professors should have all the rights their citizenship grants them. I also think they should </description>
<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:43:41 EST</pubDate>
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<title>DEMachina: Re: Ah, Academia!</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/5/21/17646/9602#3</link>
<description>So you're okay with a school's flagrantly violating its faculty's constitutional rights to free expression and free association?&lt;p>&#10;These "pissy displays of pique" are the professors' right. &#160;You don't get to decide which speech is legitimate and whic</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:30:53 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: Re: Ah, Academia!</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/5/21/17646/9602#2</link>
<description>Why? Who cares if the faculty is there? Is this were the faculty of Liberty University walking out on Bill Clinton, it wouldn't even be a news item.</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 13:46:05 EST</pubDate>
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<title>gerrymander: Ah, Academia!</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/5/21/17646/9602#1</link>
<description>&lt;i>The main tactic to be employed is to ignore Bush by staying away from the commencement. Those who are planning on not showing up call themselves "conscientious objectors."&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;How apt to see the pissy displays of pique usually reserved for journal pu</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 11:11:53 EST</pubDate>
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