Biting the Hand that Slaps You (Trees And Things)

JimmyHavok: basd stuff in the US

Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:50:37 EST

e.g. Sheriff Joe Arpaio's torture dens.

JimmyHavok: Re: Biting the Hand that Slaps You

Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:46:39 EST

Ah, yes, another media investigation which finds the US at fault at Gitmo. What a shock.

It's that damned liberal bias that reality has. When you're at fault, it's not hard to be found at fault.

skeptic: Re: Biting the Hand that Slaps You

Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:50:43 EST

It's true, the problem goes tremendously beyond the strategic error of treating prisoners in Guantanamo Bay in such a way as to make them more likely to engage in terrorism upon their release. The US has foreign policies which alienate other countrie

DEMachina: Re: Biting the Hand that Slaps You

Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:29:49 EST

Maybe they knew something we didn't.

Is that why they were released?

Those men were problems before, and if released, would become problems again.

Sure, but there's a big difference between "being a problem" back home and killing hun

thefadd: Re: Biting the Hand that Slaps You

Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:27:26 EST

That's kinda the thing I've never gotten about opposition to it. On the one hand, you could call it a rallying point but on the other hand, no one seems to actually have rallied around it for the purposes of addressing similar prisons the US operates in ot

gerrymander: Re: Biting the Hand that Slaps You

Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:44:27 EST

The Afghanis knew who he was before he was detained by the United States

Maybe they knew something we didn't.

Since you apparently didn't actually read the article, let me re-iterate: these people are becoming terrorists because of their mi

gerrymander: Re: Biting the Hand that Slaps You

Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:25:27 EST
Mohammed Naim Farouq doesn't sound like a good guy. What he wasn't, before his detention, was a terrorist (at least according to the US, which finally had to let him go because there was no evidence that he was one).
That's nitpicking over a defi

DEMachina: Re: Biting the Hand that Slaps You

Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:35:19 EST
Are there no competing rationales for why released Gitmo prisoners might resurface as radical Islamists? Like: they were radical Islamists from the start, but lied about their level of involvement.
I don't see any part of the article that's based

HidingFromGoro: Re: Biting the Hand that Slaps You

Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:31:51 EST
One of the saddest things about the Gitmo situation is that people are outraged about it and accepting of much worse abuse, neglect, and violence happening to American citizens inside state prisons.

dzetetes: Re: Biting the Hand that Slaps You

Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:03:27 EST
Radical Islamists hold a certain kind of belief. Terrorists commit (or conspire to commit) certain actions. Not all radical Islamists (what do you mean by that, anyway?) are terrorists, and many terrorists are not radical Islamists, or ev

gerrymander: Re: Biting the Hand that Slaps You

Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:29:18 EST
Ah, yes, another media investigation which finds the US at fault at Gitmo. What a shock.
Are there no competing rationales for why released Gitmo prisoners might resurface as radical Islamists? Like: they were radical Islamists from the start, bu