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<title>Let's Talk The Hypocritical, Not The Hippocratic Oath When It Comes To Med Schools (Trees And Things)</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/6/3/154932/2512</link>
<description>To hear the medical schools talk about it, they are training doctors who will practice medicine with their patients' best health in mind.  There are those who say one of the things many doctors learn early in their careers is that pharmaceutical companies can be quite helpful to them.  What they'll find is that pharamaceutical company reps are a wondrous source of money, gifts and free drug samples.  There is a group that believes many doctors learn these things right when they're learning to become doctors</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 5 Jun 2008 06:24:40 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: From The Top On Down</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/6/3/154932/2512#19</link>
<description>Yeah, there's no conflict of interest in the medical field. &lt;a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/08/us/08conflict.html?_r=4&amp;ref=health&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin">None at all&lt;/a>. Well, only at lik</description>
<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:48:11 EST</pubDate>
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<title>skeeter1: Re: more leftish bullshit</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/6/3/154932/2512#18</link>
<description>&lt;i>"It's my understanding that many poor people use the emergency room as a form of health care."&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;When I was working in hospitals (I did for 26 years), I remember an elderly woman coming in to the ER in tears that she couldn't afford her medication.</description>
<pubDate>Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:04:19 EST</pubDate>
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<title>gerrymander: Re: and while I'm bitching...</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/6/3/154932/2512#17</link>
<description>&lt;i>It is a well known fact that pharmaceutical companies attempt to influence the prescription patterns of doctors.&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;I don't deny that. But Hurley's objection is to women of that age having prescriptions at all, not just the prescribing of newer drug</description>
<pubDate>Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:35:03 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Lou: Re: more leftish bullshit</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/6/3/154932/2512#16</link>
<description>It's my understanding that many poor people use the emergency room as a form of health care. &#160;It's been a long time since I've been to the ER so I don't know...do they hand out a lot of free meds provided by pharmacy reps?</description>
<pubDate>Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:11:30 EST</pubDate>
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<title>joshv: Re: and while I'm bitching...</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/6/3/154932/2512#15</link>
<description>"One can recognize those effects as problematic without needing to construct some nationwide dastardly conspiracy of pharmaceutical companies and doctors"&lt;p>&#10;I guess I am missing where anyone is invoking a "nationwide dastardly conspiracy". &#160;It is a w</description>
<pubDate>Mon, 9 Jun 2008 05:55:23 EST</pubDate>
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<title>postillion: Re: more leftish bullshit</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/6/3/154932/2512#14</link>
<description>Copious free samples can be both a benefit and a detriment. &#160;Like so much else in the contemporary world, it's not so simple.&lt;p>&#10;On the one hand, when there's a drug where it is the sole drug that can be helpful to a person, it can be a benefit to poo</description>
<pubDate>Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:44:44 EST</pubDate>
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<title>gerrymander: Re: and while I'm bitching...</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/6/3/154932/2512#13</link>
<description>&lt;i>From a health perspective, a woman is better off not taking birth control for 30 years of her life.&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;One can recognize those effects as problematic without needing to construct some nationwide dastardly conspiracy of pharmaceutical companies and d</description>
<pubDate>Sun, 8 Jun 2008 02:26:13 EST</pubDate>
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<title>ivyafire: Re: and while I'm bitching...</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/6/3/154932/2512#12</link>
<description>Ah, yes. &#160;It's hard to tell who's more incoherent at that point, me, or the people speaking in tongues. ;)</description>
<pubDate>Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:35:12 EST</pubDate>
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<title>Lou: Re: and while I'm bitching...</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/6/3/154932/2512#11</link>
<description>&lt;i>It's hard to say what pisses me off more, organized religion or modern medicine.&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;Ye cats...faith healing must really send you around the twist.</description>
<pubDate>Sat, 7 Jun 2008 21:49:26 EST</pubDate>
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<title>ivyafire: Re: and while I'm bitching...</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/6/3/154932/2512#10</link>
<description>Actually, there's a lot more to say, but eventually it just degenerates into incoherent ranting and I start to froth at the mouth. ;) &#160; It's hard to say what pisses me off more, organized religion or modern medicine.&lt;br>&#10;</description>
<pubDate>Sat, 7 Jun 2008 21:19:35 EST</pubDate>
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<title>skeeter1: Re: and while I'm bitching...</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/6/3/154932/2512#9</link>
<description>Ivyafire--&lt;p>&#10;You hit the nail on the head with that post. &#160;What more can I say? &#160;&lt;p>&#10;--skeeter&lt;br>&#10;</description>
<pubDate>Sat, 7 Jun 2008 19:44:35 EST</pubDate>
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<title>ivyafire: Re: and while I'm bitching...</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/6/3/154932/2512#8</link>
<description>effed up my links, let's try that again&lt;p>&#10;&lt;a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/">testimonies and background&lt;/a>&lt;br>&#10;&lt;a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.askapatient.com/">type in synthroid for patient ratings&lt;/a></description>
<pubDate>Fri, 6 Jun 2008 18:07:18 EST</pubDate>
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<title>ivyafire: Re: and while I'm bitching...</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/6/3/154932/2512#7</link>
<description>Sorry, left out this sentence somehow.&lt;p>&#10;Abbott Labs' aggressive marketing has convinced doctors that Synthroid is superior to natural thyroid hormones, but patients in my position have found that many of our persistent symptoms went away once we switched</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 6 Jun 2008 18:01:37 EST</pubDate>
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<title>ivyafire: Re: and while I'm bitching...</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/6/3/154932/2512#6</link>
<description>AMEN, Josh.&lt;p>&#10;My generation is all effed up from hormonal birth control. &#160;The same docs who balk at prescribing thyroid hormones that come from pigs are all too happy to prescribe estrogen made from horse urine. &#160;Why? &#160;&lt;i>Because a pharmace</description>
<pubDate>Fri, 6 Jun 2008 17:53:30 EST</pubDate>
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<title>skeeter1: Not bitchin', just sayin'</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/6/3/154932/2512#5</link>
<description>In my brief time on this planet (55yrs) and in this country (USA), it seems that people have come to expect to go to the doctor and get a prescription for &lt;i>SOMETHING&lt;/i>. &#160;I've had my share as well. &#160;Antibiotics and chemotherapy that may have k</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 5 Jun 2008 22:30:57 EST</pubDate>
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<title>thefadd: I know you're just bitchin' but...</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/6/3/154932/2512#4</link>
<description>&lt;i>"improving health care and healthcare delivery to all people"&lt;/i>&#13;&#10;&lt;p>&#13;&#10;I heartily doubt the ASMA lives by such a laudatory goal in even half of its activities. If the poor are depending on "free samples" I think we've fallen on rather hard times.</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 5 Jun 2008 20:34:00 EST</pubDate>
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<title>joshv: Re: and while I'm bitching...</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/6/3/154932/2512#3</link>
<description>From a health perspective, a woman is better off not taking birth control for 30 years of her life. &#160;Just read the list of possible side effects. &#160;If a woman can find other means of contraception that work for her, she probably should.</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 5 Jun 2008 20:26:11 EST</pubDate>
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<title>gerrymander: and while I'm bitching...</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/6/3/154932/2512#2</link>
<description>What kind of moron &#160;-- I'm looking at you, Dr. Brian Hurley -- writes an article decrying "chronic medical drug use" which includes this:&lt;blockquote>Medication use for chronic problems was seen in all demographic groups:&lt;p>&#10;_ Almost two-thirds of wome</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:13:02 EST</pubDate>
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<title>gerrymander: more leftish bullshit</title>
<link>http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2008/6/3/154932/2512#1</link>
<description>&lt;i>As Dr. Brian Hurley, AMSA president, sees it if a medical school takes steps to shield students from Big Pharma's marketing messages, they will "produce doctors who provide better care to patients."&lt;/i>&lt;p>&#10;I wonder how Dr. Hurley presumes this message f</description>
<pubDate>Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:03:57 EST</pubDate>
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