No Good Deed Goes Unpunished (Trees And Things)

Shy Elf: Let Me Take a Different Tack

Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:46:44 EST

I wholeheartedly support the right of idiotic small businesses to enrage local public opinion by unjustly firing waitstaff who deliberately degrade their personal appearance as a matter of principle.

postillion: Re: No Good Deed Goes Unpunished

Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:45:09 EST

Oh, interesting. I will definitely have to check out his later stuff when I finish the Tractatus.

HidingFromGoro: Re: look at me! look at me!

Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:53:38 EST

Last I checked, it takes a bit of time for hair to grow, particularly if the whole head was shaved.

When I got out, it took over 3 years for my hair to get from crew cut to down past the middle of my chest. I had it all cut off and donated

thefadd: Re: No Good Deed Goes Unpunished

Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:36:51 EST

Probably a little different...I'd be happy to discuss almost any philosophy to no end. His early stuff, while "new" is still a little traditionalist whereas his later stuff is totally deconstructionist which I dig a lot more.

postillion: Re: No Good Deed Goes Unpunished

Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:55:47 EST

Could you elaborate what you find silly/infuriating about philosophy?

I am curious because a couple of my friends were so annoyed when I started talking about the Tractatus that they basically told me that they weren't going to talk with me about it.

thefadd: Re: No Good Deed Goes Unpunished

Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:48:16 EST

I'm not terribly familiar with him but his earlier work strikes me as well put together yet what I mainly find silly/infuriating about philosophy. On the other hand his Philosophical Investigations strike me as particularly brilliant and I might try

postillion: Re: No Good Deed Goes Unpunished

Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:31:52 EST

I started off with Culture and Value and finished that a few months ago. To me, it's more immediately accessible than the Tractatus, which requires more sustained concentration.

However, I am working my way through the Tractatus, which I find aust

thefadd: Re: No Good Deed Goes Unpunished

Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:26:44 EST

His earlier or his later stuff?

postillion: Re: No Good Deed Goes Unpunished

Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:00:21 EST

By the way, Wittgenstein was a big believer in similes as being very helpful in understanding a philosophical scenario. However, he also said that one has to spend a great deal of effort to come up with a good simile that actually did help reveal the

postillion: Re: No Good Deed Goes Unpunished

Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:58:10 EST

Because the hypotheticals are scenarios that directly relate to hygiene and performance whereas lack of hair is neither a hygiene issue (not washing) nor one of performance (hopping on one foot which would probably cause a lot of food being spilled).

thefadd: Re: No Good Deed Goes Unpunished

Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:58:23 EST

How so?

Lou: What's the big deal?

Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:01:05 EST

If you look at her picture, she sort of looks like a muscular Annie Lenox. Me thinks her ex-boss has issues.

Lou: Re: Well said

Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:04:36 EST

charities that are acceptable to break work policies

Is there a section that dictates hairstyles*? Or would the hairstyle rules be in the "Rules that are whatever the boss happens to think of off the top of his head" Manual.

*Mullets are

Lou: Re: No.Good.Deed.Goes.Unpunished.

Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:01:17 EST

So use your imagination

I don't have to. It's like postillion said...going into the hypothetical just makes the restaurant's case weaker. (just like dissing the period thing)

JimmyHavok: Re: look at me! look at me!

Mon, 9 Jun 2008 04:59:47 EST

Last I checked, it takes a bit of time for hair to grow

Approximately one inch a month for most people.

postillion: Re: No Good Deed Goes Unpunished

Mon, 9 Jun 2008 01:02:40 EST

Stretching into hypothetical scenarios to defend the restaurant owners makes their case even weaker.

gerrymander: Re: No Good Deed Goes Unpunished

Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:25:57 EST

So use your imagination, and come up with a viable example which would. not. require. multiple. periods. per. sentence.

Personally, I'm thinking of the "No Pants For Cancer" campaign. What employer could possibly complain about total lower-body nudity?

Steve Urkel: Well said

Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:23:31 EST

I agree. Or what if the charity was one people don't like? For example what if she shaved her head to raise money for NAMBLA? Should governments come up with a list of charities that are acceptable to break work policies for, and ones that are not?

Lou: Re: No Good Deed Goes Unpunished

Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:19:06 EST

She could hop...or she eschew bathing...but she didn't.. We're talking about a fucking hairstyle for crimminy sake! Hopping would make her spill things...getting all funky smelling would put the diners off of their dinner. A hair cut would.have

JimmyHavok: great point

Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:45:59 EST

Canadian law prohibits gender discrimination. Laying a female employee off for doing something that would be considered trivial for a male certainly qualifies.

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Ken Arromdee: Re: No Good Deed Goes Unpunished

Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:41:04 EST

Everyone's looking at the restaurant owner as a bad guy, but imagine that instead of cutting her hair for a cancer charity, she pledged to hop on one foot for a week for an arthritis charity, or stop washing for a week in solidarity with a charity for the

Lou: Also this...

Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:39:28 EST

I wonder what would happen to a guy who decided to shave his head.

thefadd: Re: look at me! look at me!

Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:45:31 EST

Yeah, we had a lunch lady in high school who wore a wig cause of an illness. The most popular band in school was named for her: Betty's Wig.

thefadd: Re: look at me! look at me!

Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:45:26 EST

From about a year ago.

postillion: Re: look at me! look at me!

Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:30:29 EST

the charity money was raised for the initial removal of Fearnall's hair, not for her remaining bald.

Last I checked, it takes a bit of time for hair to grow, particularly if the whole head was shaved.

I was wondering about the wig thing mysel

gerrymander: Re: look at me! look at me!

Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:25:42 EST

wouldn't she be just as much of an attention whore is she kept her long, brilliant red locks

How many non-celebrity "woman keeps long hair" stories have you read in the news lately?

Lou: Re: look at me! look at me!

Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:01:05 EST

Wigs are hotter than a motherfucker...maybe the new ones are different, but I can imagine wearing one in a busy restaurant is comfortable under any circumstance. Also, just a quick check shows that good quality wigs start out over 100 clams and go up

gerrymander: look at me! look at me!

Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:50:10 EST

If I'm reading this correctly, the charity money was raised for the initial removal of Fearnall's hair, not for her remaining bald. Is there any reason, apart from a need to become an attention whore, why wearing a wig is an unacceptable middle ground?

JimmyHavok: Re: No Good Deed Goes Unpunished

Sun, 8 Jun 2008 11:40:40 EST

I hope someone gives Fearnall a better job, and agree that Hilliard needs to hit the unemployment line himself.