Texas Schools: Shoot First, Ask Questions Later (Trees And Things)

MayorBob: Why Would You Want To Let Them Know?

Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:41:22 EST

"Finally, how will the kids even know the teacher is packing?"

Keep the little buggers guessing. The uncertainty of whether kindly old Mrs. Caruthers or curmudgeonly Mr. Kraut are packing heat and ready to ventilate you at a moment's notice

Lou: Re: Accident waiting to happen

Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:58:39 EST

so a kid would know right up front that their ass is grass right from the get-go.

I assume that the kid would know his ass was grass because he himself was packing and not for say chewing gum?

-But but...I'll put it on my nose!
-Too late,

skeeter1: Re: Accident waiting to happen

Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:20:28 EST

"Finally, how will the kids even know the teacher is packing?"

Here's a thought... How about if the teachers openly-carry, in an external holster, so a kid would know right up front that their ass is grass right from the get-go.

pO157: Huh?

Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:40:11 EST

I'm sorry, Smokey. You were over the line, that's a foul. Uh, excuse me. Mark it zero.

...It's a league game, Smokey.

Lou: The line has been crossed...

Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:31:52 EST

The die has been cast. The Rubicon has been crossed. The domino has fallen. The first step has been taken. The genie is out of the bottle. The flag is up the pole. It's outta here. It's off the hook. The bear has shat an

stevetherobot: Re: Eh.

Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:11:29 EST

Shit, every kid I've seen has a cellphone any more. Let them call 911 and get some real cops out there.

But what about in this school, where the real cops are 30 minutes away? And they may not have cell phone service

stevetherobot: Re: Accident waiting to happen

Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:09:10 EST

Imagine a violent inner city school which allowed teachers to carry guns

Imagine all you want but this isn't about a violent inner city school. It's about a small, rural school. Should they be barred from doing this

port1080: Re: Accident waiting to happen

Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:24:49 EST

Teachers are currently asked to break up and separate fights. They already have this authority.

In my high school, at least, the assistant principal was the disciplinarian and was called in to deal with most of that stuff. Teachers provide

pO157: Re: Accident waiting to happen

Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:11:44 EST

There's a big difference between challenging a home invader and challenging a crazy student, though - collateral damage. What if our hypothetical gunslinger teacher whips out his .357 to defend himself against a crazed attacker - and ends up miss

pO157: Re: Eh.

Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:08:56 EST
Sure, let the kids carry cell phones.
But look at who is advocating bringing in private security guards. "Consultants" and "experts" that advise the school administration. The folks who are against private hobbyists who have a high degree of competency

skeeter1: Re: Eh.

Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:42:51 EST
"I imagine there are private citizens who hit the gun range more than police officers or these security guards."
Along that line, I once went with my brother (a law enforcement officer) to his target range. They were shooting something call

port1080: Re: Accident waiting to happen

Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:57:25 EST
Police officers make the same decision on a regular basis. I have heard very few arguments for removing guns from them even though they have shown themselves to be wildly inaccurate marksmen when the situation takes a turn for the worst.
Well, I'

T Slothrop: Re: Eh.

Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:32:18 EST

I imagine there are private citizens who hit the gun range more than police officers or these security guards.

There are. Lots of them. I'm even one of them.
Surprisingly to most people (I know it surprised me when I

Lou: Hardcore

Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:28:23 EST
She confiscated knives, guns, etc
Your wife took weapons away from armed students...and she wasn't armed?! Man, that is seriously hardcore. She must have some hellacious arched eyebrow action going on.
I can just see it...
Mrs.

pO157: Re: Accident waiting to happen

Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:54:29 EST
There's a big difference between challenging a home invader and challenging a crazy student, though - collateral damage. What if our hypothetical gunslinger teacher whips out his .357 to defend himself against a crazed attacker - and ends up miss

port1080: Re: Accident waiting to happen

Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:33:52 EST
Frankly this line of logic is similar to the suggestion that you shouldn't challenge a violent home invader. I'll take a pass on that. I'd rather die trying to fight than leave my life at the mercy of some thug.
There's a big difference between c

pO157: Eh.

Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:05:54 EST
The twin background checks for being a teacher as well as to possess a concealed weapon outside of your home should weed out the undesirables. If you can't trust people who have undergone that level of snooping into their past and present who can you trust

pO157: Re: Accident waiting to happen

Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:48:02 EST
Imagine a violent inner city school which allowed teachers to carry guns, for example. The kids that they will be dealing with will (potentially) have just as much gun handling experience as the teachers, and more willingness to actually use a gu

port1080: Accident waiting to happen

Mon, 18 Aug 2008 07:36:04 EST
I'm a little bit divided on this subject. I do think that there are potential cases where a teacher having a gun would be a good thing, but in general I fear that this would just lead to escalation of conflicts to unacceptable levels, or to accidenta