Prove To Us That You're Not A Terrorist (Trees And Things)

WMK: Re: weird story -- something fishy

Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:39:09 EST

Extending the 'corporate mindset' of this bullshit security theater gravy train for bureaucratic thugs with heads full of coprolite - this guy merely needs to kiss up to and gain the favor of some high placed patron of whomever is actually running the show

gerrymander: Re: weird story -- something fishy

Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:59:28 EST

It would also be embarrassing if the airline had to admit they knew the pilot who just flew his plane into a building was on a watch list. (Which is not to say Scherfen would, only that that's the corporate mindset.)

port1080: Re: weird story -- something fishy

Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:03:09 EST

I don't think that the TSA is preventing him from flying - rather, his employer has determined that as long as his name is on the watch list, they don't want to employ him. The article states "But he said he and his wife have been detained for hours

wetkarma: weird story -- something fishy

Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:33:18 EST

I'm hardly fan of the TSA, and consider nearly all airport security measures since 9/11 to be security theater. Still the part I don't follow is why he is not allowed to fly.

Everyone else who has had experience with the TSA 'watch list' gets some

Steve Urkel: Re: Prove To Us That You're Not A Terrorist

Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:05:09 EST

"The odd thing about Scherfen being on a list of possible terrorists is that his personal background flies in the face of him being a terrorist. He served in the US military for more than 13 years: he fought in the first Gulf War and flew helos in the Nati

Steve Urkel: Knobkniht!

Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:00:13 EST

Are Obama's friends Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dorn and Micheal Klonsky on this list? If not, why?

pO157: Re: Due process?

Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:08:57 EST

The TSA is currently expanding its "security" services to cover trains and buses. They have begun random harassment of passengers in my city. Err, i'm sorry, I meant "Random searches for the safety of all comrades."

If this type of bullshit continues it

port1080: Re: Due process?

Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:59:40 EST

They aren't forbidding travel. People on the TSA list are still free to walk, bike, drive, boat, train, bus, or rent a private jet to get to their destinations.

You make it sound so reasonable, but if your name was on that list I imagine you'd be

gerrymander: Re: Due process?

Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:01:57 EST

when they forbid travel

They aren't forbidding travel. People on the TSA list are still free to walk, bike, drive, boat, train, bus, or rent a private jet to get to their destinations.

joshv: Due process?

Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:06:54 EST

"No person shall be ... deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law ...."

Fine, the government wants to make its petty little evil-doer blacklist. Maybe check people on those lists extra carefully at airports - carry out inv

T Slothrop: Sheik John Smith

Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:24:27 EST

At least Scherfen is a Muslim, married to a foreign-born Muslim spouse. I'm not saying that excuses the utter stupidity of the TSA but at least it provides some (very weak) possible explanation as to how the original mistake may have been made.

But take

skeptic: Re: Prove To Us That You're Not A Terrorist

Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:42:47 EST

The whole terrorist watch list is ridiculous. It is fraught with inaccuracies, there seems to be no clear standard of who is either placed on the list or removed from it, there are lots of people who have trouble flying because they have the same nam