Small Wonder.... Biden Clean, Articulate Choice for VP Slot (Trees And Things)

I loved the way the McCain ad used a clip of Obama with American soldiers while claiming he hadn't visited them. I guess that tells you who the audience was: peo

Thalia: Re: proclivities

Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:22:35 EST

Wikipedia concurs and provides references for Biden's self-defense, though.

Lou: Clap hands!

Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:51:11 EST

Dance in your joy, conservative, Dance!

strangeluck: Re: Does this really matter?

Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:40:04 EST

That's an excellent point. I'm usually pretty uninterested in the VP selection process, but the idea that it might provide insight into who might be chosen to be Secretary of State or Attorney General makes it far more interesting. That said, I'm not sure

gerrymander: Re: Dissapointing choice...

Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:21:08 EST

McCain claimed that Obama refused to visit wounded soldiers if he couldn't bring a camera crew, which was a complete lie.

Based on the links you cite, the false part of McCain's claim was "couldn't bring a camera crew" and not "Obama cancels hosp

Steve Urkel: Joe-ker

Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:15:11 EST

Sept. 22, 1987, Biden Admits Error:

"Most of Mr. Biden's statement was in response to a report in this week's issue of Newsweek magazine on a

Lou: Rejoice o conservatives and racists

Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:33:12 EST

Obama's finished.

profwhat: Visiting troops

Sun, 24 Aug 2008 09:23:01 EST

While John McCain seems to have forgotten about it, Obama has lived up to McCain's pledge to run a clean campaign.

"As widely noticed, Kinnock speech wasn't the first time Biden dabbled in plagiarism. I believe Biden was the one who said he credited the Kinnock speech i

zyxwvutsr: Re: What I Find Odd.

Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:32:42 EST

Bill Richardson can't pull in the Indian-American vote like Joe Biden can.

uncarved block: Doesn't Matter

Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:22:50 EST

Well, a warm bucket of shit would have been available at any stable, so it would have been a useless commodity-- quite a contrast with a unique government post. But I was wrong about the second guessing anyway, as "warm bucket of piss"

MayorBob: Oh, Before I Forget It.

Sun, 24 Aug 2008 07:15:06 EST

Richardson has never, not once, to my knowledge ever referred to John McCain as a "dear friend" or professed a willingness to run for office on a ticket with him like Biden has. You may expect the McCain camp to begin early making sure everyone is aw

MayorBob: What I Find Odd.

Sun, 24 Aug 2008 07:12:10 EST

What happened to Bill Richardson? Here's a liberal Democrat with substantial foreign policy experience and political savvy who gets passed over for Joe Biden. As I posted elsewhere, I like Joe Biden as my Senator -- I've voted for him in every

pO157: Re: One Angry Former Obama Supporter

Sun, 24 Aug 2008 07:05:51 EST

officially renounce my membership in the Democratic party.

Feels good, doesn't it? You doing the independent thing or taking your vote to a competing party?

thefadd: One Angry Former Obama Supporter

Sun, 24 Aug 2008 03:44:13 EST

I'm embarrassed to have my name attached to this write up and officially renounce my membership in the Democratic party.

Jackkeefe: Re: Dissapointing choice...

Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:36:15 EST

Seriously, find me an ad from before August 1st where Obama goes negative on McCain.

According to this site, Obama began running negative ads on July 7th.

JimmyHavok: Re: proclivities

Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:43:54 EST

It seems like a very curious sort of plagiarism...plagiarizing someone else's family history? And apparently he used the quote more than once, and only failed to attribute it the one time.

Here are

profwhat: Re: Does this really matter?

Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:55:54 EST

During 2004, I was a very late decider, and Kerry's pick of Edwards was a blow against Kerry. This decision is important. Although the president is formally in charge of the entire executive branch, he can only do so much, and for the most part

Jackkeefe: Re: Blah

Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:22:04 EST

Biden seems like a nice, safe choice who will have no appreciable effect on the election. I can't imagine there are any demographic or geographic voting blocs that are going to switch alignments because of him.

I assume Obama must be feeling pretty good

skeeter1: Re: Dissapointing choice...

Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:27:56 EST

"Everything will be calculated between here and November. "

Without a doubt. I'm trying to keep an open mind between now and November. I like Obama, I like McCain. Then again, I liked Dennis Kucinich, so what the hell do I know.

delete me: typo

Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:14:21 EST

around 3AM US Eastern Time (1PM Pacific)

Around 12AM Pacific, unless the continental US has 13 new time zones.

MayorBob: Re: proclivities

Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:08:16 EST

Biden's been my Senator for six terms and I like him a whole lot as a Senator. But, don't try to gild the lily on the Kinnock business. The quote in question spoke of him growing up, the son of a poor coal miner. Biden made it seem to an

JimmyHavok: proclivities

Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:55:13 EST

I like how the "proclivity for plagiarism" link goes to a 20-year-old article that is so vague as to the actual charges that it qualifies as a smear. The "plagiarism" in the speech was a quote from Neil Kinnock, then-leader of the British Labour Party, whi

pO157: Re: Based on this pick ...

Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:10:52 EST

Tom Ridge

Not bad on a National Security angle. It would help with the Keystone state, as well. Maybe. But wouldn't that just allow the Dems to attack McCain as being another Bush light, given that (in my opinion) the bureaucratic Goliath that

pO157: Does this really matter?

Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:06:06 EST

Does anybody seriously hold off on choosing a candidate until they make their VP choice known? Does it really matter? Our esteemed 32nd Vice President is esteemed for saying accepting the job was "the worst damn fool mistake I ever made" and declaring the

MayorBob: Re: Alternate Title:

Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:01:25 EST

By the way, we accept returns within 30 days with the cash register receipt. You don't got that and you have to take store credit.

pO157: Re: Alternate Title:

Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:57:28 EST

Obviously that includes Vice Presidents.

Do you get a free Secretary of Transportation if you pick up a discounted VP choice?

MayorBob: Based on this pick ...

Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:43:28 EST

... I'd say McCain selects someone who's not a US Senator to run with him. I think the prospect of having all four candidates being Senators would overload circuits among an electorate which, frankly, doesn't hold members of Congress in high esteem.

MayorBob: Alternate Title:

Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:32:08 EST

Home of tax-free shopping.

port1080: P.S.

Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:44:43 EST

For those who might find the headline a bit obscure - one of Delaware's state nicknames is Small Wonder.

pO157: Re: Small Wonder.... Biden Clean, Articulate Choic

Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:41:14 EST

And what was up with that whole text message debacle?

Did anybody think that would actually go as planned? I don't care how secretive the campaign is. When you have an army of reporters all clamoring to get their five seconds of fame by being t

pO157: Re: Dissapointing choice...

Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:36:47 EST

Then again, maybe it's a brilliant choice in terms of pulling in the votes he needs...it certainly seems to be coldly politically calculated, though.

At this point everything is spun and run by focus groups. A bunch of party "elders" pro

zyxwvutsr: Re: Small Wonder

Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:10:49 EST

No Clinton, no Edwards. Maybe there's hope for the Democratic Party after all.

port1080: Dissapointing choice...

Sat, 23 Aug 2008 07:31:32 EST

This feels like Obama's first big stumble for me. Then again, maybe it's a brilliant choice in terms of pulling in the votes he needs...it certainly seems to be coldly politically calculated, though. Which, I suppose, brings me back to this bei