http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771 In an event which appeared until recently to be poorly covered by the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://edition.cnn.com/2011/09/25/health/wall-street-protests/index.html?iref=allsearch">mainstream media</a>, people are marching on Wall Street to show their outrage over the banking bailouts and what they see as the general corruption of US government and business in general. The usual shenanigans have broken out, with <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/09/wall-street-march-roundup-of-wh en-us Wed, 28 Sep 2011 05:51:34 GMT Thu, 6 Oct 2011 06:49:32 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#151 Ron Paul sympathizes with Wall Street Protesters:<p>&#10;<blockquote>Paul also said he shares the frustration of the protesters who recently occupied streets in the Wall Street section of New York City, and said he believes the demonstrations are rooted in a h Thu, 6 Oct 2011 06:49:32 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#150 George Carlin on Occupy Wall Street: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q</a> Wed, 5 Oct 2011 10:00:20 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#149 <blockquote><i>...I do not know your state of mind well enough to guess what factors motivate your feelings of amusement...</i></blockquote>You have but to read comment #147 to be enlightened. Tue, 4 Oct 2011 10:24:06 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#148 <blockquote>I find it utterly perverse that you suggest my amusement at the video might have had some sort of sexual component; that suggestion is obviously more of an indication of your mindset than mine.</blockquote>Other posters alluded to the possibili Tue, 4 Oct 2011 10:18:23 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#147 I find it utterly perverse that you suggest my amusement at the video might have had some sort of sexual component; that suggestion is obviously more of an indication of your mindset than mine. It does occur to me, however, that some of the comments here c Tue, 4 Oct 2011 09:12:32 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#146 That was Mao then, but <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTzam6P018k">this is China now</a>. Tue, 4 Oct 2011 09:07:41 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#145 <blockquote><blockquote>After about two seconds, you're cheering for the wailing bitch to get it. I'm not even kidding</blockquote>MC Nally thinks you are worse than Hltler.</blockquote>Why do you believe things that aren't true?<p>&#10;"Worse than Hitler" is Mon, 3 Oct 2011 23:08:06 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#144 Liberalism is so pathetic. &nbsp;That's why you need to <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_03.htm">combat it</a>. Mon, 3 Oct 2011 20:57:50 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#143 They're trying to provoke the protesters into getting violent, it's a very common technique. Mon, 3 Oct 2011 20:54:08 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#142 <em>You have some really serious authority issues, don't you?</em><p>&#10;Well besides that, violence against women puts a smile on the face of regressives the world over- it shouldn't come as too much of a surprise that he likes it. Mon, 3 Oct 2011 20:52:50 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#141 Why do you say that? Mon, 3 Oct 2011 10:56:38 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#140 You have zero insight into the motivations of the NYPD and Brookfield Properties. Mon, 3 Oct 2011 10:52:28 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#139 Because they aren't. Mon, 3 Oct 2011 10:38:55 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#138 Why can't they be both? Mon, 3 Oct 2011 10:35:23 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#137 Do you think those statements were incongruous or incorrect? Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:54:23 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#136 A few days ago you claimed the cops were on the verge of clearing the park. Then you claimed they were holding back because the rain was going to wash the protestors away. Now they're waiting because Brookfield is afraid of property damage. Keep fucking th Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:52:49 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#135 The facts are not all that complicated: The park is private property and its owners have decided for the moment not to ask the police to clear out the trespassers. That is no doubt a solely a business decision made upon the calculus that as long as the tre Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:30:32 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#134 Said it before. By far this site's biggest flaw is the lack of a ball-gag function for the resident troll. Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:22:48 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#133 Like I said before, stuff that many New Yorkers would be guilty of at least once a day.<p>&#10;If by trespassing you're referring to Zuccotti Park, the facts are <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/culture/2011/10/3583314/anti-corpora Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:20:08 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#132 Trespassing, disorderly conduct, interfering with traffic, etc. Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:01:12 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#131 So what crimes? Mon, 3 Oct 2011 08:46:01 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#130 Heinous? None that I know of. Mon, 3 Oct 2011 08:42:52 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#129 So what heinous crimes have the protestors committed? Please, share the source of your outrage and horror. Mon, 3 Oct 2011 08:17:55 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#128 Sure. Mon, 3 Oct 2011 07:36:45 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#127 <i>Interestingly, no one here has yet claimed that the demonstrators are not criminals.</i><p>&#10;Everybody's a criminal, so nobody gives a shit. <p>&#10;I broke two laws (that I know of) while walking to work this morning. And if a cop had busted me I'm sure he Mon, 3 Oct 2011 07:29:51 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#126 Also: Radiohead will NOT be playing. Mon, 3 Oct 2011 07:01:44 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#125 Well, you stated an opinion as if it were self-evidently true. A figment of your imagination is not self-evidently true; you should accept some sarcasm in response to such statements. Mon, 3 Oct 2011 06:59:23 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#124 The site founders didn't so much build a web site as they did erect a bridge Major Cookie can lurk beneath. Mon, 3 Oct 2011 06:44:39 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#123 Ah, I see I've stumbled on the site troll. &nbsp;Good day. Mon, 3 Oct 2011 05:49:44 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#122 <a rel="nofollow" href="http://occupywallst.org/article/radiohead-not-playing/">Radiohead will NOT be playing.</a> Mon, 3 Oct 2011 05:13:05 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#121 They're also free to have them arrested. Because the protesters are criminals. Mon, 3 Oct 2011 02:30:36 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#120 I was referring to the poor execution due to a lack of coordination. Mon, 3 Oct 2011 02:29:59 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#119 Then they're free to sue them in court. Sun, 2 Oct 2011 22:41:13 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#118 I don't really know how good Hitler was at blowjobs. Sun, 2 Oct 2011 22:40:27 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#117 When you're a police officer it's civilly liable. To a taxpayer, that's the same thing. Sun, 2 Oct 2011 22:39:00 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#116 <a rel="nofollow" href="https://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occupy-wall-st-moveme/">The List of Demands</a>:<blockquote>Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing tra Sun, 2 Oct 2011 19:20:52 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#115 <a rel="nofollow" href="http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/01/police-arresting-protesters-on-brooklyn-bridge/">Orangey</a>: In a tense showdown above the East River, the police arrested more than 700 demonstrators from the Occupy Wall Street protest Sun, 2 Oct 2011 19:16:39 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#114 Because I'm a man of few words and pictures say a thousand words, I present the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4025/4524250851_8a16aebb74.jpg">Occupy Wall Street flickr stream</a>. &nbsp;Guy Fawkes seems to be a popular figure among Sun, 2 Oct 2011 11:30:51 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#113 The people who own the park they are trespassing in would beg to differ. Sun, 2 Oct 2011 06:30:21 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#112 <blockquote><i>After about two seconds, you're cheering for the wailing bitch to get it. I'm not even kidding</i></blockquote>MC Nally thinks you are worse than Hltler. Sun, 2 Oct 2011 06:29:48 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#111 Incompetence is not illegal. Sun, 2 Oct 2011 06:28:22 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#110 # three is actually one of the more disturbing to me. yes, let's make absolutely sure nothing happens to our <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.randomthinking.info/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/praying-to-bull.jpg">sacred cow</a>. lol. what a bunch Sat, 1 Oct 2011 21:24:55 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#109 The demonstrators are not criminals. Sat, 1 Oct 2011 21:20:58 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#108 It was funny. In fact one of the funnier things I've seen this week. After about two seconds, you're cheering for the wailing bitch to get it. I'm not even kidding.&#13;&#10;<p>&#13;&#10;Also, the cops and their supervisors should be in jail for such behavior. I'd also la Sat, 1 Oct 2011 21:16:16 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#107 In that video, several of the police officers are obviously shocked that mace was just used on those four individuals. You can clearly hear one of the officers ask "who did that?" The police immediately back the orange netting away in attempt to distance t Sat, 1 Oct 2011 21:10:39 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#106 If it turns out like the 1999 Seattle protests it was probably started by police agent provocateurs. Sat, 1 Oct 2011 11:07:20 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#105 Typical right wing submission to authority is what it is. Sat, 1 Oct 2011 11:05:42 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#104 I didn't say it was funny; it just stood out for me. &nbsp;I have a feeling your French ancestors would have sneered at the peasants all the way along the road leading to the guillotine during those halcyon days of yore in the 1790s. Sat, 1 Oct 2011 08:59:48 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#103 That one wasn't funny. Sat, 1 Oct 2011 08:44:07 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#102 The one that stood out for me was the one with the backpacking protestor having a conversation with two NYPD officers. &nbsp;No yelling or screaming and no pepper spray -- obviously both sides were doing it all wrong. Sat, 1 Oct 2011 08:16:55 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#101 A lot of those photos are funny, too. Sat, 1 Oct 2011 08:09:58 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#100 I'll use the 100th comment in this thread to offer some <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/09/occupy-wall-street/100159/?zomghippies">photos of the week's events</a>. &nbsp;And I'll throw in some <a rel="nofollow" href="http:// Sat, 1 Oct 2011 07:58:22 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#99 Do you believe that "<b>peaceably</b> to assemble" means breaking the law while assembling? If not, why are you bringing in such irrelevancies to the discussion? Sat, 1 Oct 2011 07:28:52 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#98 He's liable to get dizzy and topple off that high horse of his. Sat, 1 Oct 2011 07:24:06 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#97 I know we've all heard it before, and that it's not worth much more than toilet paper under current jurisprudence, but it's worth reading again anyhow.<p>&#10;<blockquote><b>Congress shall make no law</b> respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting Sat, 1 Oct 2011 07:04:28 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#96 <blockquote><i> you will assert that the victims deserved it</i></blockquote>By "victims" I presume you mean the lawbreakers rather than the innocent citizens of the city who have been going about their lawful business. But whatever. <p>&#10;I specifically sta Sat, 1 Oct 2011 05:25:19 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#95 it wasn't that exciting anyway, but there was chanting Fri, 30 Sep 2011 23:59:08 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#94 That video was too slow loading for me to bother watching it, ergo I missed the chant as well as seeing the footage that Major Ken got so much joy from. Fri, 30 Sep 2011 21:02:42 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#93 <blockquote>Interestingly, no one here has yet claimed that the demonstrators are not criminals.</blockquote>Nobody is interested in discussing that with you because we've pretty much all been through at least a round or two of your lame rhetorical gimmick Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:42:37 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#92 Interestingly, no one here has yet claimed that the demonstrators are <i>not</i> criminals. Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:49:35 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#91 No kidding. Every time you think his lack of introspection and level of douchebaggery has reached the absolute bottom he surprises with a new low. <br>&#10; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:04:44 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#90 <blockquote><tt>...protesters when they refused to step back on the sidewalk...</tt></blockquote>Just watch the video. Fri, 30 Sep 2011 13:16:46 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#89 Over time you can build up a tolerance to pepper spray. It's something I've incorporated into my survival training, and you should too. Fri, 30 Sep 2011 11:03:29 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#88 Nowhere in the linked article does the writer agree with your claim. Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:58:28 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#87 <blockquote><i>That it was punishment is not in question</i></blockquote>I agree: it was not punishment. Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:12:46 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#86 <blockquote><i>So it is pretty clear that you felt that the spraying was punishment, and that it was appropriate for the police to punish "criminals", even though they have not been convicted</i></blockquote>No, I want them to be arrested and imprisoned. < Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:12:03 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#85 <i>"Americans have become <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2011/09/29/wall-street-now-home-to-protest-campground/">too complacent</a> with the way their society is being run."</i><p>&#10;(International security expert Patricia DeGe Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:56:14 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#84 <i>No chants of "THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING." &nbsp;</i><br>&#10;<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/24/occupy-wall-street-protes_n_979367.html">You just didn't watch enough video</a>. &nbsp;<br>&#10;This was on the same HuffPo page as t Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:54:49 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#83 In one America<br>&#10;A bunch of citizens<br>&#10;Organized themselves<br>&#10;Question<br>&#10;Could a little bit<br>&#10;of those recovery measures<br>&#10;be aimed at<br>&#10;the real economy?<p>&#10;In another America<br>&#10;A few Dozen People<br>&#10;Arrested<br>&#10;Tasered<br>&#10;Sprayed<br>&#10;H Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:52:57 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#82 Was there more than one female journalist that was "raped" in Egypt? Also I put the word rape in quotes because I seem to remember it being a sexual assault (nothing short of what happens daily at Frat houses, Girls gone Wild tapings, and the Puerto Rican Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:49:03 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#81 Having been exposed to both, I differ. &nbsp;The pain from CS stops mere moments after the end of exposure. &nbsp;That of OC lasts for hours. Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:40:16 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#80 I'm kind of tempted to buy some silly string canisters and spray them at the Chicago protesters, actually. Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:33:29 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#79 <i>"The activists behind Occupy Wall Street hope to emulate the success of Tahrir Square, which was an integral force in the dethroning of former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak last February."</i><p>&#10;Someone should ask them if they plan on raping female Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:30:49 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#78 <i>As I mentioned in comment #71, it is not, strictly speaking, punishment.</i><p>&#10;Its entertaining to see someone try to re-write the meaning of their own words when its all right there on the page. &nbsp;In comment #10 you said:<br>&#10;&nbsp; <i>I'm disappo Fri, 30 Sep 2011 08:45:09 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#77 As you said in comment #71, it is not punishment "in a legal sense". &nbsp;That is what makes it analogous to the cheating team.<p>&#10;That it was punishment is not in question. &nbsp;You even gleefully noted that you were hoping to see more such punishment. Fri, 30 Sep 2011 08:25:43 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#76 Thank you. &nbsp;That's what it looks like alright. &nbsp;Looks like someone missed that invaluable class in the use of verbs at school. Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:53:20 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#75 Officer Anthony Bologna has a history of this apparently.<p>&#10;<i>...Inspector Bologna is a defendant in lawsuits claiming wrongful arrests at protests staged during the Republican National Convention in 2004. </i><p>&#10;<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.nytim Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:57:07 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#74 This is what I am reading from that sign:<p>&#10;"They think we're disposable. Well both my thumbs opposable." Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:50:36 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#73 <blockquote><i>...by your own admission that's what the use of OC was in this case...</i></blockquote>As I mentioned in comment #71, it is not, strictly speaking, punishment. Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:45:41 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#72 You said that you were eager to see the protestors "punished". &nbsp;The police have no legal right to punish folks (and by your own admission that's what the use of OC was in this case). &nbsp;Ergo, they are cheating, and you are cheering them on (possibl Fri, 30 Sep 2011 05:59:58 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#71 It is about forcing the demonstrators to comply with police instructions. You are correct that it is not punishment in a legal sense.<p>&#10;In what sense are the police "cheating"? What regulations or laws have they violated? Fri, 30 Sep 2011 05:52:06 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#70 CS gas is way, way worse. Fri, 30 Sep 2011 05:48:51 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#69 <blockquote><i>Despite this, they refuse to move...clearly this entitles the police officers to use force against them</i></blockquote>Exactly. Fri, 30 Sep 2011 05:47:32 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#68 Ah, so you admit that this was about punishment and not crowd control. &nbsp;In that case, my analogy was perfectly appropriate. &nbsp;The police do not have the right to inflict physical punishment (they are the cheating team) and you are gloating about t Fri, 30 Sep 2011 05:46:47 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#67 You are inferring some pretty wild things from what I wrote, so let me try to set you straight: I think the NYPD, as an organization, is lazy, incompetent, and corrupt. As for slavishness to authority, I am not a liberal by any stretch of the imagination. Fri, 30 Sep 2011 05:45:55 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#66 Exactly. &nbsp;The use of OC is not for crowd control. &nbsp;It can be beneficial against someone who is already violent and out of control but in crowds, it sows chaos and rage. &nbsp;It's use here was to punish. Fri, 30 Sep 2011 05:42:36 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#65 Not at all: I merely want to see some criminals punished for their behavior. Fri, 30 Sep 2011 05:37:20 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#64 This comment calls to mind nothing more than the loutish behavior of a somewhat tubby sports fan who gloats when his team wins a few points by cheating. Fri, 30 Sep 2011 05:31:30 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#63 You're crying like a little girl right now, on behalf of the poor helpless wimminz, and you don't even have that excuse. Fri, 30 Sep 2011 02:43:31 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#62 and yet they are so easily inferred. &nbsp;If I recall, your support of the NY boys in blue was equally uncritical in the DSK case. Possible blindspot? Or just a natural slavishness to authority? Thu, 29 Sep 2011 22:51:52 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#61 Video of the actual physical reaction to pepper spray: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT18uWukCCY">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT18uWukCCY</a> Thu, 29 Sep 2011 19:33:08 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#60 Watching those girls I was somehow reminded of Dennis Rodman. Thu, 29 Sep 2011 19:12:08 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#59 As I watch the video, they're standing in one place, and the police officers wrap a plastic barricade around them, shoving them back. &nbsp;Despite this, they refuse to move. &nbsp;Under current First Amendment jurisprudence, clearly this entitles the poli Thu, 29 Sep 2011 18:44:58 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#58 Shoving? Thu, 29 Sep 2011 18:39:33 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#57 Oh, clearly, not moving immediately when shoved back by police shoving you with a plastic barricade counts as assault under current jurisprudence. &nbsp;I'm not disagreeing with you at all. &nbsp;Why do you continue to direct your comments at me? &nbsp;Why Thu, 29 Sep 2011 18:35:32 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#56 Disrespect? How about assault? Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:58:16 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#55 If you were driving down a highway and decided to cross the median into oncoming traffic, would you blame the truck that hit you for the accident?<p>&#10;Also, for what it's worth, pepper spray isn't mace. Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:57:39 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#54 It doesn't? &nbsp;I thought disrespect of a police officer was normally punishable by mace? &nbsp;Am I wrong? Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:51:30 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#53 <blockquote>It's funny because the pain and humiliation are self-inflicted.</blockquote>You have some really serious authority issues, don't you? &nbsp;I can't think of any other way you could watch footage of a police officer spraying pepper spray in a pr Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:44:15 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#52 I have never, ever said, nor implied, either of those statements. <p>&#10;Are you retarded? Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:35:19 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#51 Current law?! Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:33:50 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#50 Zyx: the government can do no right; the cops can do no wrong. Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:25:11 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#49 I'm not quite sure why you seem so upset by my comment in particular, when I seem to be one of the only people generally agreeing with you here. &nbsp;I haven't seen any permanently disabling injuries yet, and under current law that's the best protesters h Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:24:20 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#48 No papier mache puppets. &nbsp;Only a couple of people pepper sprayed. &nbsp;One tooth knocked out. &nbsp;No chants of "THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING." &nbsp;This protest rates about an 0.5 on a scale of 0 to 10 on the Social Outrage Meter.<p>&#10;You can't be s Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:50:47 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#47 Their signs are lousy. Don't they know any artists?<p>&#10;I should have included a link <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7txCdLCP9U&amp;feature=results_video&amp;playnext=1&amp;list=PL1F89474CA4C172C0">to this</a>. Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:28:50 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#46 Has anyone said anything about him? Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:11:02 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#45 <i>Nickel and Dimed</i> on the same table as <i>Animal Farm</i>?! Somebody please pepper-spray the LiBRARIAN! Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:10:14 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#44 Your comment is fatuous: this has not been a peaceful protest and the police response has thus far been very restrained. Many of the protesters have shown that they are perfectly willing to ignore the law, disrupt law-abiding people going about their busin Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:05:14 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#43 Chomsky is <i><a rel="nofollow" href="https://occupywallst.org/article/noam-chomsky-solidarity/">on board</a></i>. Brother Cornell is <i><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=ARQSWZrOSlk">on the scene</a></i>. T Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:56:58 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#42 This is just one of the standard crowd control methods, is it not? &nbsp;The last thing they want is a peaceful protest, because that might look like the protesters had a right to be there. &nbsp;If the protesters won't get violent on the own, well, they j Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:22:20 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#41 Same here. I was curious to see what the folks here would have to say about Officer Tony Baloney, and my low expectations were completely fulfilled. <p>&#10;Does lead me to think that the teabaggers might be right about one thing: the Tree of Liberty needing s Thu, 29 Sep 2011 13:30:40 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#40 Ask him how much antifreeze he and his buddies drank before the viewing.<p>&#10;Therein lies the explanation. Thu, 29 Sep 2011 13:24:39 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#39 It's funny because the pain and humiliation are self-inflicted. There may be some earnest buffoons in Zuccotti Park, but they <i>are</i> buffoons nonetheless. Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:48:52 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#38 <blockquote>You didn't find it funny? I watched it in the office with a couple other guys and we were all cracking up.</blockquote>Though I suspect you are still trolling, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and respond to your question seriousl Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:27:12 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#37 You can't keep a good economic system down: according to <a rel="nofollow" href="http://gawker.com/5845160/new-anarchist-twitter-clone-for-all-your-protesting-needs">Gawker,</a> the latest piece of anarchist gear (besides a V for Vendatta mask made by Chin Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:51:55 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#36 They have the right "peaceably to assemble." The protest was no longer peaceable so they were not properly exercising their rights. Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:29:50 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#35 I guess the writer at Time was seeing things also, according to you. Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:27:17 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#34 I bet you'd be crying like a little girl if you got sprayed with mace. Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:19:51 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#33 <i>Retarded? What the he'll were those women doing there? </i><p>&#10;Exercising their constitutional rights or assembly and speech? &nbsp;Or do they only get to do that in pre-approved areas, and only when they say things that you agree with? Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:07:40 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#32 Oh, no! &nbsp;Not <i>women</i> protestors! &nbsp;It is time for the White Knights of Wankery to come waddling to the rescue! Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:07:23 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#31 <i>At least one of them appeared to be pushing the NYPD officers with the orange netting.</i><p>&#10;You're just seeing things now. <p>&#10;I wonder if this is all sexually charged and erotic for you? Don't bring mace into the bedroom, it's not a form of foreplay, Thu, 29 Sep 2011 07:58:14 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#30 <blockquote><i>It's like these women protesters had to atone for all the sins of previous protesters by getting pepper sprayed in the face</i></blockquote>At least one of them appeared to be pushing the NYPD officers with the orange netting. It doesn't app Thu, 29 Sep 2011 07:54:19 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#29 <i>The NYPD still needed 5000 cops to beat, pepper spray, and harass those 100 protesters.</i><p>&#10;The NYPD needed 5000 cops to police the protestors but only a few Tony Baloney whiteshirts seem to be doing the pepper spraying.<p>&#10;One theory is that the blu Thu, 29 Sep 2011 07:41:43 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#28 So it doesn't matter who was pepper sprayed, as long as someone was pepper sprayed that was a protester. It's like these women protesters had to atone for all the sins of previous protesters by getting pepper sprayed in the face. <p>&#10;Good thing the NYPD is Thu, 29 Sep 2011 07:27:07 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#27 <a rel="nofollow" href="http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/09/26/police-use-pepper-spray-on-demonstrators-at-occupy-wall-street-protest/">Time Magazine</a> explains:<blockquote><tt>A couple of on-the-scene videos show officers reacting harshly to the protesters Thu, 29 Sep 2011 06:56:31 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#26 You're welcome, though you could stick around for the lulz: This is one of funniest writeups we've had in a while. Thu, 29 Sep 2011 05:22:30 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#25 Every time I come back here to see if the discussions here have improved, you remind me that I have far better things to do. Thanks for encouraging me to spend less time in meaningless discussion on the 'net. Thu, 29 Sep 2011 03:31:49 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#24 "Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when <i>you</i> walk into an open sewer and die." Thu, 29 Sep 2011 03:26:26 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#23 You didn't find it funny? I watched it in the office with a couple other guys and we were all cracking up. Thu, 29 Sep 2011 02:48:26 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#22 <blockquote>You have to admit: the video of the two women wailing after getting maced by a cop is funny.</blockquote>Your trolling is distasteful. &nbsp;And obvious. Wed, 28 Sep 2011 23:27:57 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#21 It seemed like the women were reacting to another situation in front of them and the white shirt officer comes out of nowhere to mace them. The bald officer in the blue shirt even looked (and might have even said "wtf?") at the white shirt mace guy like "w Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:54:10 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#20 No it wouldn't. If they were asked to leave or move then it would be appropriate for the officers to "escort" them to another area not right away mace them. Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:48:06 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#19 Pretty calmly? Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:43:17 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#18 I don't know about that. They seem like they are standing around pretty calmly. From the reactions of the cops closer to the camera it appears that even they were shocked. <p>&#10;Why did the superior officers (in white) walk away when it happened? Shouldn't i Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:33:36 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#17 A disobeyed legal order to clear the area would. Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:33:29 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#16 I thought I saw people complaining about the fence being put up around them and at least one of them pushing up against it. Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:33:15 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#15 I don't know if you're watching the same video, but I can clearly see that nothing came before that would warrant that reaction. Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:28:24 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#14 Retarded? What the he'll were those women doing there? Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:27:35 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#13 Depends on what came before, which we conveniently don't see. Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:23:32 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#12 Whatever you think about the larger issue, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moD2JnGTToA">this is pretty retarded</a>. Wed, 28 Sep 2011 16:46:17 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#11 <i>It is deeply ironic that a bunch of leftists started an organization called "Democracy Now." </i><p>&#10;That show pisses me off. I listen to it sometimes on the drive home from work, and they covered the historic flooding from Hurricane/TS Irene. In the af Wed, 28 Sep 2011 16:33:34 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#10 I'm disappointed. I was really looking forward to more videos of these criminals being maced. Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:59:36 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#9 The Greeks are wolves. Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:58:20 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#8 Thanks for keeping me updated. Wed, 28 Sep 2011 13:22:42 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#7 They've postponed the clear-out and are hoping that tomorrow's rain will do the job for them. Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:56:42 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#6 "Americans will stop being sheep and stand side-by-side with those in Greece and Britian"<p>&#10;What? Wed, 28 Sep 2011 11:15:39 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#5 &#10;<ol>&#10;<li value="1">This event if "poorly covered by the mainstream media" because no one cares about the nonsense they are protesting about. <p>&#10;<li value="2">Despite the claims of many of the protestors, this has not been a peaceful or lawful protest. No Wed, 28 Sep 2011 09:34:36 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#4 The protest will end tonight. You heard it here first. Wed, 28 Sep 2011 09:25:22 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#3 The NYPD still needed 5000 cops to beat, pepper spray, and harass those 100 protesters. Wed, 28 Sep 2011 08:30:24 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#2 Well, according to the cited article &nbsp;on 9/25, the plan is for 20,000 protestors to show up on Wall Street. It is now 3 days later. Did the other 19,900 appear and I missed it? Or are they all still waiting to borrow their mother's Visa Card? Wed, 28 Sep 2011 07:40:57 GMT http://www.treesandthings.com/story/2011/9/26/205155/771#1 <i>Wall Street seems insulated from the effects of the financial collapse when compared to the rest of the world. The recession is officially over...</i><p>&#10;Meh, stocks haven't been doing so great lately, and it seems like a lot of pessimism is building. & Wed, 28 Sep 2011 05:55:52 GMT string http://www.treesandthings.com/search/