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Cocaine -- The Legal (If Not Objectionable) Alternative.

MayorBob.

Posted to Etcetera on Tue Oct 03, 2006 at 11:54:38 PM EST. RSS.

Cocaine can be legally bought in the US.  No, not the powdery white nose candy from Colombia.  This Cocaine is an energy drink available in 8.4 fluid ounce containers.  Although there's not a trace of an illegal substance in it, it does manage to sock a bunch of caffeine into each serving.  According to the president of the company which sells the stuff, the only way to get more caffeine per ounce is to have an espresso.  Despite its energy-spiking abilities and its legal content, the name of the drink is enough to make some merchants think twice about selling it.

What's in a name?  According to James Kirby, the guy who invented Cocaine, "it's an energy drink and a fun name."  According to two Chicago beverage outlet operators, either the name "doesn't sound good" or the drink won't be stocked because they're a family store and customers "would be offended."  Joseph Califano, president of the National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University, thinks the drink's manufacturer "should be ashamed of creating and marketing an insidious product" such as Cocaine.  Califano urges all retailers to boycott "this disgusting product."

Having the name of an illegal substance on your product aside, are there any other potential pitfalls with Cocaine.  Well, there's the aspect of caffeine content.  According to Kirby, the 280 milligrams of caffeine in each serving will give you a bit of a high within about five minutes of drinking it.  Then, the drinker will experience an "energy buzz" which will last five to six hours.  It is advertised as being "350 percent stronger than Red Bull" which contains a mere 80 milligrams of caffeine.

Just like any other substance not produced by the human body, if a person ingests too much caffeine, bad things can happen.  These things range from increased anxiety to sleep deprivation to intoxication.  Most medical authorities claim the threshold for intoxication occurs with regular intake of more than 240 milligrams of caffeine.  But, even lower doses of caffeine has been known to induce cardial arrythmia.  Death from caffeine ingestion alone is extremely rare and absent anything else, if you're a 180 pound guy, you'd need to drink about 44 cans of Cocaine to kill yourself - 24 cans if you weigh about 100 pounds.

Then there's the matter of the name of the product they're trying to sell.  Obviously, nobody is able to sell cocaine, the drug, legally anywhere.  So would people be turned off by the name?  Isn't there a pretty good selling perfume named after a drug?  Yes, I thought there was -- and, at up to (US)$80 a bottle, it's still doing brisk business.

edited by Ace

Tags: drugs, War on Drugs, edited by Ace (all tags)

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eduardo.

Wed Oct 04, 2006 at 08:14:35 AM EST

4.00 (interesting)

Coke should sue them for trademark infringement.

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Too Late For Me

keta.

Wed Oct 04, 2006 at 01:48:46 PM EST

4.00 (informative)

In my commercial fishing days it was not uncommon, in the late afternoon, for me to brew a fresh pot of coffee and power-slurp the whole thing in an effort to both stay awake and stay safe.  Sleep deprivation was a real enemy, since you would average 4-5 hours a night, and fitful rest at best (hard to "let go" when you're drifting 35 miles off-shore, with a single, tiny, flashing strobe, and a radar reflector that seldom stayed attached to the mast as your only warning system.)

Anyway, the coffee would give me a boost, but the cranks it brought on made it almost not worth the effort.  Uncontrollable shaking, dry mouth and dry heaves, and the ultimate nerve-crushing crash after the buzz made me wonder if there wasn't a better way to approach the problem.  For many, there was.  

It was common knowledge in the fleet that many skippers/crew favoured a drug-induced method of dealing with the rigors of the job.  Cocaine was the favourite, and while many a fortune was made at sea, many were also lost on land when a jump-starter became a must-have.  The road to ruin can often begin as a short-cut alleyway.

But back to these "energy" drinks.  I confess to never having tried any, but they might have been the answer in my old days on the briny.  A medium energy boost in a small can might have given me the needed shot without the attendant downsides.  As for the incredibly naive name of this particular beverage, why, Mr Sniggering Marketing Twit, do you think cocaine is synonymous with cachet?  Oh yeah, because you're a fucking idiot.

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Re: Too Late For Me

Thalia.

Wed Oct 04, 2006 at 07:54:13 PM EST

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Actually, it is often referred to in bars and other places as "liquid cocaine" so the marketing guy was just "in touch" with the youth market.  That said, I've tried these "energy drinks" exactly once and it tastes like cough syrup.  Yuck.

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they're just dumb.

1fastdog.

Wed Oct 04, 2006 at 01:30:20 PM EST

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From the first link in the w/up:
We created Cocaine, in large part, because those that analyze the energy drink industry itself described energy drinks as "Speed in a Can" and "Liquid Cocaine." We thought, Why beat around the bush?" Why not just call an energy drink what is already being alluded to.

Because it's dumb - bordering on inexcusable, really. An outrageous name that flips the bird at The Man® may score some early, limited success with teens and those who enjoy tweaking authority figures, but as a long-term marketing strategy it's a loser.

Somewhere in my soul, there's always Rock -n- Roll... Joe Strummer

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In 1995, in the Czech Republic, there was

permazorch.

Wed Oct 04, 2006 at 03:58:55 PM EST

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Semtex.

It was awful: in bad taste, and nasty tasting.

----- The earth may fail, but we will quiver

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Bar-employee view

Acefantastik.

Thu Oct 05, 2006 at 04:49:15 AM EST

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So, I work in a hipster bar here in Portland.  We don't sell energy drinks of any brand.    (Disclosure:  I enjoy Red Bulls and their knockoffs plenty of times a month.)

The reason is that a majority of people who order energy-type blends with their alcohol tend to be either A) frat boy/sorority girl types;  B)  drunken preppies;  C) folks whose money we don't want.  

I'm not saying that anyone who imbibes energy drinks is an annoying preppie,  but I am saying that people who order such drinks in pubs usually tend to represent that stereotpye, which is why my bar, and several others don't bother to carry the stuff.  

As far as the rest of the discussion goes,  I'm totally in favor of these type of drinks, but I would propose that this particular brand name (Cocaine) is dumb, since we all get it--no need to manufacture a temporary scandal when there is profit to be had.  

   

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Energy drinks - why?

port1080.

Sat Oct 07, 2006 at 11:48:19 AM EST

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I'm a grad student, with the irregular schedule and feast/famine workload that that entails. Some weeks I have plenty of time, some weeks I'm trying to grade a hundred essays, study for a mid-term and write two papers. Those weeks, sleep is usually deemed less important than other priorities. I've tried a few different options - iced tea (in large quantities), coffee, energy drinks, and traditional cola. Of those that I've tried, coffee seems to work the best for caffeine delivery (although the side effects, as keta noted above, can be nasty. I haven't noticed any appreciable difference between the boost I get from coffee and the boost I get from an energy drink (and indeed, the coffee seems to take effect quicker). Does anybody have an alternative view or experiences on this? And any suggestions on legal stimulants?

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Re: Energy drinks - why?

permazorch.

Sun Oct 08, 2006 at 01:43:38 PM EST

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Does anybody have an alternative view or experiences on this? And any suggestions on legal stimulants?
All I've got are standards. and time-consuming, at that.

  1. A little excercise -- Take a 20 minute run/fastwalk.
  2. Everything but the excercise. Drink water & shower like you're gonna do/have just completed a 20 minute run.
  3. Videogames, like Civilization or Half-Life 2.
  4. Masturbation.

That's all I got.

----- The earth may fail, but we will quiver

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Re: Energy drinks - why?

teaweed.

Sun Oct 08, 2006 at 03:19:35 PM EST

none

I switched to green tea after reading somewhere that it gives a smoother boost. It tastes vile, imo, but I pucker up and bear it to avoid coffee jitters. Eliminating caffeine unless I needed it helped more than I expected. My schedule shorts my sleep for a day at a time, rather than a week or two, so caffeine tolerance may be unavoidable for you.

You might try aromatherapy. Peppermint herbal tea works better than coffee while I'm drinking it. As soon as the cup is empty, I'm drowsy again.

Masturbating is my cure for insomnia.

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