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Console Madness

shane.

Posted to Media on Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 12:19:00 PM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

A new wave of video game consoles are being released across the USA, with Nintendo and Sony both releasing new consoles for the holiday season (the Wii and PS3, respectively), and with Microsoft ramping up marketing for its console, the Xbox 360.

The consoles come in at a range of price points, with the Wii ($250) at the low end, the Xbox 360 ($300) in the middle, and the PS3 ($500) at the upper end (all prices are for the base package).

Each console is focusing on a slightly different market. Nintendo's Wii is made for the casual gamer, with an emphasis on gameplay and an intuitive new controller system. Marketing for the Xbox 360, which has been available for over a year, has focused on the number of titles currently available, its mid-range price point, and the full feature set it offers. The PS3 target market has mainly been hard-core gamers, as the high price point and limited availability has made it unavailable to any other audience.

This seeming smorgasbord of console goodness has not been all fun and games, however. The pre-release marketing hype has taken away the pleasure for some.  Crowds waiting to purchase the PS3 in Connecticut experienced muggings, shootings and a small stampede.  Of those who managed to get one of these new consoles some are really raking in the cash - one of them recently sold on eBay for $1400 - that's about $900 more than retail. Supply issues have plagued both Sony and Nintendo and look to continue to do so throughout the holiday season.

Now that all the consoles have been out for a few weeks, is there any clear winner in this new round of the console wars? If you waited in line for the PS3 or the Wii, was it worth it? Is the Xbox line here to stay, or will Microsoft's efforts go the way of the Dreamcast?

Tags: written by shane, edited by port1080, nintendo, sony, microsoft, xbox, playstation, wii (all tags)

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I am the one the game-makers despise...

port1080.

Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 04:44:04 PM EST

5.00 (interesting)

I don't need the bells and whistles, so I'm more than willing to wait until a system is "on its way out" to buy in - that way the system and games are both considerably cheaper. I got a Dreamcast a few months before Sega quite making them. I didn't get a PS2 until the price dropped into the $170 range (which made it a pretty good deal, considering it doubles as a DVD player). Considering how little game-playing I do, and the huge range of titles for the PS2, I probably won't be upgrading to the new generation of consoles for at least another two years. That said - the Wii looks really intriguing, and I really like Nintendo's focus on gameplay. I don't need graphical bells and whistles - I'm the kind of guy that still enjoys playing old NES and SNES games.

The gameplay focus of the Wii appears doubly smart to me in the sense that most TVs in the US are still going to be standard def for at least the next three or four years (even after the switchover to HD, there are still so many old SDTVs laying around that they will persist for quite a while). Parents buying a gaming system for their kids room probably aren't going to invest the $1500 or so for an HDTV - and on an SDTV, the difference between the Wii and one of the other systems is going to be quite a bit less pronounced. That said, for the next generation of consoles, Nintendo will probably have to refocus on graphics. Once HDTVs are in wide circulation, the differences will simply be too acute.

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Re: I am the one the game-makers despise...

Toby Flip.

Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 10:23:52 PM EST

none

Actually, you are not unusual.  the PS2 is still selling gangbusters and the PS3 won't hit stride for at least a year or 2.  outside of hard-core gamers, most people are pretty pragmatic about their gaming purchases.... which is why the wii will dominate over the next year or so but then probably fizzle and die as the novelty wears off and the lack of great 3rd party games and graphic intensity become apparent.  XBox and PSIII will split the rest of the market pretty evenly thereonin as newer, cheaper, and more consumer friendly versions of both are sure to be released.  at least, that's what my mom says.

the dreamcast was the last home console i bought and i bought it, as you did, at the end of its short life for a song (games were cheap too) and it was the best of the bunch for great, arcade quality games.  

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Use the controller, Luke

gerrymander.

Thu Dec 07, 2006 at 05:15:20 PM EST

5.00 (astute)

the wii will dominate over the next year or so but then probably fizzle and die as the novelty wears off and the lack of great 3rd party games and graphic intensity become apparent.

The Wii's salvation in two words: Light Saber. Video games have been the best part of the Star Wars brand for more than a decade, and now there's a device which can make that "vvvrrmmm" sound right in the user's palm. If Nintendo can partner with LucasArts for one good first-person Jedi game, all criticism will die away.

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Re: I am the one the game-makers despise...

jwb.

Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 10:41:30 PM EST

1.00 (illiterate)

Why would anyone care about "great 3rd party games"?  Do you think the average game player cares who is the publisher of a great game?  I happen to think you'll see a lot of great games for the Wii because software developers already know how to program it, and it's far cheaper to write programs on the Wii than on the 360 or the PS3.  But even if the third parties abandon the platform, there should still be plenty of great games.

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Re: I am the one the game-makers despise...

Toby Flip.

Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 01:08:37 AM EST

none

I happen to think you'll see a lot of great games for the Wii because software developers already know how to program it, and it's far cheaper to write programs on the Wii than on the 360 or the PS3.

I will have to take your word on this, one hopes the programmers will soon learn how to program the other consoles too.  

But even if the third parties abandon the platform, there should still be plenty of great games.

I agree, but I don't think that the next generation Halo, GTA-style blockbusters are going to be big hits on the wii because they will be designed for the higher power systems.  that and being the status loving monkeys we are, we will want the best iteration of those games.  the wii basically will be outside of this market.  but this is not a bad thing, it is a very smart thing because nintendo will make a killing by creating its own niche and selling its own software in that niche (just like the gameboy and ds) but it won't be a long term contender in the home console market because sony and microsoft's strategy is, essentially, a long term gamble for complete control of your entertainment room.

I plan to get a wii.  but just like everyone else, i will also be getting a psiii or an xbox once the price comes down and (hopefully) they shrink in size and become less ugly.

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Re: I am the one the game-makers despise...

Chasing.

Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 12:24:52 PM EST

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Third party games are important in order to flesh out the offerings, which people do take into account when buying a system.  And while coding for the Wii is essentially the same as coding for the GameCube, utilizing the controller in a good or useful or fun way is another thing altogether.  When developers jump on board with that, and churn out quality titles, then Wii will have some legs.  Nintendo makes some awesome games, and people like myself will get it for that reason.  But that's not necessarily reason enough for Joe Gamer out there - or Joe Nongamer, for that reason.

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Re: I am the one the game-makers despise...

Azathoth.

Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 12:32:56 PM EST

none

I will probably get a PS3 long before you do, but I hear you.  I just do not understand the desperation to get the newest and latest immediately.  

Especially when Guitar Hero (and GH 2) exist for the PS2.  This game has spread like a joyful viral obsession through my friends, with me being one of the first and worst.  Several of them have bought PS2's just to play Guitar Hero.  It's crazy.

But I still rock harder than all of them put together.

The cosmos contains nothing of greater importance for the negligible atoms called human beings than the condition of being elegantly amused. --HPL

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Re: Console Madness

Chasing.

Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 12:17:57 PM EST

5.00 (interesting)

It's far too early to make an declarations about winners or losers - revisit the situation in a year plus change (post 2007 holiday season) for a better view.  But while Xbox 360 and PS3 duke it out, Nintendo isn't even in the same fight, and it's important to point that out.  With its different goal (and build), it's more likely to get unique games of its own, and warrant a purchase, even should punters already have one of the other systems.  As game development becomes so outrageously expensive, many companies are going to release games on both 360 and PS3 - and you're not likely to see much difference in gameplay.  And 360 and PS3 lose money on each console sale (and will for some time, and perhaps even for the entire life of the current generation), whereas Nintendo will pretty much be making profit straight out of the gate (GameCube may not have been a stellar seller, but it turned a nice profit, from early in its life).

Supply issues plague every new console release, and are essentially meaningless - they plagued 360 as well, and those are easy to find, now.  The price point will be an issue, yes (do I want a 360 AND a Wii, OR do I want just a PS3), as will feature sets (do I have a high def TV and desire Blu Ray - or am I content to wait and purchase a separate 360 HDDVD once the format war plays out).  Granted, in a few years Sony's machine may appear to be more "future proofed", especially should Blu-Ray win out, but if people wait for that future to buy their console, then Sony will be sunk by then.  And by then, too, the next Xbox may well be in the works, as Microsoft adheres to a faster turnaround time than Sony wants to aim for.

Keep in mind, though, that there's no reason to think that there isn't enough room for three major players in the market - they all survived the last generation, after all, and with each successive generation the gaming market grows.  If they each put out solid machines (and it seems that they have), and don't shoot themselves in the foot (Sony is the only one that appears to have any worries on that front, at the moment), they'll all be golden.  And if not golden, then, well, some other precious metal they can be happy with.

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Re: Console Madness

CaptainLiberal.

Wed Dec 06, 2006 at 07:54:51 AM EST

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Actually, the 360 is already in the black with its console sales.  They started out losing more than a hundred dollars per console, but over the last year they've reduced costs and are now making an estimated $75 per console sold. The extra year of lead time has really helped them here.  Sony is losing approximately $200 per console, and likely won't see a reduction in that number until mid to late next year.

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Well...

rombuu.

Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 01:08:31 PM EST

5.00 (astute)

...I purchased a 360 last year and have been pretty happy with it.  I like the media capabilities of it -- it replaced my crappy old DVD player, and I can stream my entire iTunes library wirelessly from my Mac to it down to my living room where my good speakers are.  So it basically replaces a squeezebox I was looking at that did something similar.  The fact it plays some fun games is kind of a bonus.

I don't really have an interest in a Wii or a PS3, but as someone who has an older (like a whole 3 years old) HDTV, I'd be super fucking pissed if I bought a PS3 and found out I could only play games in 480p because it doesn't support 1080i for gaming.

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Re: Well...

CaptainLiberal.

Wed Dec 06, 2006 at 07:57:18 AM EST

none

If you have an older 480p/1080i set that doesn't do 720p, then definitely wait until Sony gets their shit sorted out.  Unlike MS, they didn't include aa scaler chip in the PS3.  They're attempting to do it in the software, but as of firmware 1.30 (which came out last night) it still drops to 480p if the game is done in 720p on those sets.

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Re: Console Madness

jwb.

Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 01:18:20 PM EST

none

I bought a Nintendo Wii.  I didn't have to camp out like a loser in front of Best Buy, and I didn't get mauled or shot or arrested.  I just walked into the store and bought one off the shelf.  This seems like basic retailing but Sony apparently is not able to give their customers a normal buying experience.

Anyway, the Wii is pretty flippin' awesome.  The system is small and quiet and unobtrusive.  The action of the motion-sensing wireless controller is perfectly intuitive.  I took the machine to a party recently and people played Wii Sports Tennis non-stop.  It's great to have a game which requires no pressing of buttons and no explanation of how to play.  With four controllers the tennis game is pure chaotic fun.

I think you can get a good comparison of the Wii and the PS3 just by looking at their marketing materials.  Sony's marketing concentrates on the awesometude of their parallel processor and their high-definition graphics.  Nintendo's commercials show people having fun.  I think most normal people would rather have fun than stand around explaining that their game console can execute 32 parallel vector multiplications (in certain cases!)

If you want a rough idea of relative console sales, check out http://nexgenwars.com/

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Re: Console Madness

gameCoder.

Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 01:02:27 PM EST

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Just curious: where do you live that you were able to just buy a Wii in the store?
I have been unable to score a Wii at all since it came out (granted, I haven't been calling Best Buy daily, or anything, but I've been trying...).  Seems to me that since the Wii's are still selling for over $400 on eBay, people have been buying up any available units and selling them back on eBay.  I figure my chances of being able to find one will increase substantially as the eBay price drops.

My husband made an interesting suggestion with regard to this phenomenon.  If Nintendo and Sony (and Microsoft, too) are unable to provide enough units on they release date (which, for all of Nintendo's hype, they definitely failed to do) then they should consider releasing the ones they do have in an auction.  Then everyone will have a fair shot at getting the consoles, the console-makers will get the extra cash, and the aftermarket profiteering will subside.  Honestly, if the only way I can buy a console within a few months of its release (aside from camping out overnight in front of a Best Buy) is to pay extra cash, I'd rather the extra cash go to the console-maker than some random schmuck on eBay.

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Re: Console Madness

jwb.

Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 02:51:18 PM EST

none

I got mine at Best Buy in San Francisco.  The new store opened on Wednesday before thanksgiving.  The store manager says they received shipments on Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday and expected to get more at least twice a week through the end of the year.  The manager had no idea when they might get a new shipment of the Sony PS3.

I think auctioning off the initial production run is a fine idea.  I also think they should auction concert tickets and parking spaces.  That opinion seems to be in the minority.

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Re: Console Madness

Territan.

Fri Dec 08, 2006 at 07:21:11 AM EST

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gameCoder: Just curious: where do you live that you were able to just buy a Wii in the store?

It is possible. You have to time it just right, though, as stores are occasionally getting trickles of them in.

Personally, I find it interesting that Nintendo made a good-sized stock of Wiis (Wiises? Wiii?) available for pre-orders, and still has some to put in the stores. Not a great many, but enough that people stand a chance to get ahold of them, unlike the PS3.

Then again, I will admit that I was one of those sick puppies that pre-ordered at EB. Took off from work for an hour or two to stand in line and plunk down a big chunk o' change (no $50 pre-order for me, thanks. I dropped the whole load early) to reserve one.

My first adventure with the Wii was not Twilight Princess; it was standing in line at midnight at a strip-mall EB waiting to pick up my gear. Nothing happened out of the ordinary: no knives, no drive-by shootings (though you'd be surprised how much car traffic that strip mall has at 11:45 PM on Saturday night), just a bunch of people joined in line by their love of slightly updated tech. It was beautiful, in a certain screwball-geeky way.

(And yes, I don't get out much. Your point?)

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Next Gen consoles

Ozyman.

Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 02:45:41 PM EST

none

This will show just how low I've sunk, but I'm actually waiting until a new DDR game comes out for one of the next gen consoles before I get one.  I've currently got a first gen xbox, and I'm so busy that I don't really have time to play any games on it, but at least once a week I play DDR for an hour or so as part of my exercise regime.  Last I checked the DDR games for XBOX were not compatible with XBOX360.  I'd probably go ahead and spend the money on the 360, even though I'd rarely play it, if my current DDR games would work on it.

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Re: Next Gen consoles

shane.

Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 04:32:51 PM EST

5.00 (brilliant)

Why woud you spend money on the newer version of what you already have, even though you won't play it much and the game you want to play runs just fine on your existing system?

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Re: Next Gen consoles

Toby Flip.

Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 10:09:05 PM EST

4.00 (funny)

Why woud you spend money on the newer version of what you already have, even though you won't play it much and the game you want to play runs just fine on your existing system?

but MOM, all the other kids have one!

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Re: Next Gen consoles

Ozyman.

Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 05:30:34 PM EST

none

Well, I probably wouldn't right now.  Assuming that there is a price drop, and they get the DDR games working on it, I'd probably go ahead and upgrade.  If I did get a 360, I'm sure I'd find more time to play it... just to check it out.  Plus the new 360s are a bit smaller and have other conveniences (wireless controlers, DVD-HD attachment, etc.)  and my xbox is kinda quirky, I figure it's probably gonna die on me eventually.  

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Re: Next Gen consoles

chiaboy.

Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 04:16:02 PM EST

none

a couple of reasons.

one, it actually makes the legacy games look better.

I've been playing my Socom game (made for the PS2) on the PS3 and it looks WAY better.

and frankly, as other's mention it's (a PS3) also a way to get a cheap Blu-Ray player. So regardless of how many games there are the movies are starting to hit the market (hello Talladega Nights) and will continue to do so.

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Re: Next Gen consoles

CaptainLiberal.

Wed Dec 06, 2006 at 07:50:31 AM EST

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I have a hard time understanding why Socom would look better, unless you're running it at 480p instead of 480i, as the PS3 isn't upscaling PS2 games yet.  Currently, PS2 games are running on the old EE chip added into the PS3 for backwards compatibility.  In the future Sony plans to do software compatibility, at which point they intend to upscale old games like the 360 does.

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Home Depot -- We Take Care Of Ourselves First.

MayorBob.

Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 04:53:59 PM EST

none

If you were a Home Depot customer who waited outside of the Whitehall, Pennsylvania store in the wee hours of the morning on Black Friday to score a wide screen TV, your chances of getting any was slim and none.  That's because the store's staff decided to glom up on all those discounted savings.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Re: Console Madness

qcubed.

Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 10:27:37 AM EST

none

Don't ask me why, but apparently, sequels do really well.  You know, like Madden 2003, Madden 2004, Madden 2005, Madden 2006, Madden 2007...

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