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Here's A Tip For The Holidays.

MayorBob.

Posted to Etcetera on Fri Dec 08, 2006 at 11:50:21 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

You've gotten good service throughout the year from any number of people in your life, from the postman to the garbage collector to the hairdresser to the janitor at work.  This being the holiday season, the question arises - what is the appropriate holiday amount to give to someone to show your appreciation for what they do for you throughout the year?

According to Kiplinger's and a couple of others with thoughts on the matter, the proper amount should be approximately what you would spend on a single visit to a hairdresser or from a cleaning person.  A babysitter should get what's equal to two nights of babysitting duties (only if you use them frequently).  A personal trainer gets as much as (US)$50 and a newspaper deliverer between $10 and $20.  The person who delivers your mail through "snow, rain, heat, or gloom of night" really ought to be given a gift certificate in lieu of cash.

There are those who suggest, rather than building up to one big tip around the holidays, you should perhaps get in the habit of tipping as you go along throughout the year.

That doesn't mean everyone believes in tipping.  Some are adamantly opposed to tipping under any circumstances, nevermind the holidays.  They'll likely say, they'd do it but you really ought to have a job which pays you enough so you don't have to rely upon the kindness of strangers to kick in an additional 20 percent.  One wonders if they'd be happy to see the prices in restaurants increase by 20 percent to make sure the servers are paid a living wage?  The rest of us, reluctant to wait until society reorders its priorities to up the basic pay rate for service personnel and appreciative and desirous of good service, take the easy way out and tip service personnel.

New York City, being what it is as a city with a relatively higher cost of living, the cost of tipping is higher there also.  In addition to being a bit more diverse in terms of the types of people getting tipped (what with doormen and garage attendants), they also seem to be a bit more assertive.  According to one garage attendant: "I have a guy with a Porsche. Last year, he gave $100 and I told him I deserved more. Right away he gave me $400."  Which leads to the question of whom do you tip over the holidays?  Do you restrict it to the newspaper delivery person and the hairdresser?  Or do you also include the postman?  Do you tip someone else other than the types of service people mentioned above?  If you're a service person, offer your thoughts on tipping: how much is just right and if you've ever gotten any unusual tips.  

Tags: edited by Port1080, money, tipping, holidays, written by MayorBob (all tags)

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Tippity Tip Tip

keta.

Fri Dec 08, 2006 at 02:01:56 PM EST

5.00 (brilliant, funny, brilliant)

Which leads to the question of whom do you tip over the holidays?

Well, not the mailman, because despite the notice on my box AND personally talking to him more than once about it, he continues to stuff my mailbox with junk mail and flyers.

Not my barber, because I only get my hair cut once every six months, and I never get the same butcher.

Not the babysitter - no kids.

Not the garage attendant - no car.

Not the newspaper delivery person - don't get the paper because some asshole kept swiping it before I could collect it (I suspect the mailman.)

Not the door attendant - ha! as if.

Personal trainer?  That's funnier than supposing I have a door attendant.

Cleaning person?  Oh, stop, you're killing me!

So who's left?  The bartenders at my local, I suppose, but then they get a tip every time I tipple, so I figure their kids are all set financially for college.  The bus drivers on my route could be considered, but their collectively grumpy, overpaid asses will see a monetary tip from me when they replace the sneer with a smile...i.e, not anytime soon.

I guess that just leaves...ME!  I think I'll tip myself, since I've done a damn fine job being me all year.  And what better tip than what I tipped me last year?  That's right - a great big bottle of Captain Morgan's Spiced Rum.

Anyone else I missed, I humbly submit what Yogi Bear once said (remembered these many, many years) when asked for a tip; "Don't park your car next to a fire hydrant."  Because that would be a boo-boo.

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rombuu.

Fri Dec 08, 2006 at 02:11:26 PM EST

4.00 (interesting)

I guess that just leaves...ME!  I think I'll tip myself, since I've done a damn fine job being me all year.  And what better tip than what I tipped me last year?  That's right - a great big bottle of Captain Morgan's Spiced Rum.

Man, you are a genius.  I think I'm going to tip myself with the same thing tonight.

You know, the Capt is great.. you can mix it with pretty much anything and its great.  Coke, Dr. Pepper, Orange Juice, Coffee, more Captain.  Really, the possibilities are endless.

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keta.

Fri Dec 08, 2006 at 02:40:10 PM EST

5.00 (funny)

You know, the Capt is great.. you can mix it with pretty much anything and its great.

Ah, a fellow buckle-swasher!  My favourite mix, up until recently, was Lipton's Lemon Iced Tea mix.  I've always drank a lot of that crystal beverage, so adding the Captain was a natural.  Lately, however, I've become a big fan of using Ocean Spray Ruby Tangerine juice as mix.  Highest recommendation!  Oodles of vitamin C!

Sadly, I must report that hot chocolate powder mix and a splash of water doesn't sit well with the Captain.  It's the equivalent of being reduced to surviving on salted horse and captured rats when your stores run out at sea.

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rombuu.

Fri Dec 08, 2006 at 09:44:44 PM EST

none

Ah, a fellow buckle-swasher!

Hey, I don't swing that way...oh wait.. never mind.

I'm actually having Capt and Caffeine Free Diet Coke tonight.  If you squeeze a line quarter into it its actually pretty good and less sweet than a real coke.  The lime seems to take off some of the chemical diet coke taste.  And its healthy!  Healthier?  

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what's the upchuck factor?

gerrymander.

Fri Dec 08, 2006 at 10:56:22 PM EST

none

Coke, Dr. Pepper, Orange Juice, Coffee, more Captain.

At the same time? Eww.

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shane.

Sat Dec 09, 2006 at 01:30:01 AM EST

none

I suggest giving MayorBob your tip money!  

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stevetherobot.

Mon Dec 11, 2006 at 03:28:38 PM EST

none

How about tipping the people who mod you up?  Hint, hint.

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Here's A Tip For The Holidays.

Steve Urkel.

Fri Dec 08, 2006 at 02:04:54 PM EST

5.00 (funny)

Don't stare at the sun.

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Re: Here's A Tip For The Holidays.

port1080.

Fri Dec 08, 2006 at 12:33:38 PM EST

none

I'm more than wiling to tip for services directly rendered, such as restaurants, barber / hairdresser, etc. This sort of tipping puts the power in the hand of the customer - if the person doing the service does good work, her or she gets a good tip. If not, no tip or lower tip. Yearly holiday tipping, though, strikes me as changing the power dynamic in the opposite direction. If I tip my paper delivery boy $20 or whatever, will he do a better job delivering my paper? Not likely - but if I don't tip him, you can bet that some days the paper might end up in the bushes instead of on my doorstep, or might not get bagged on a rainy day. It goes against the whole purpose of tipping.

Ce n'est pas une pipe. C'est une signature.

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Re: Here's A Tip For The Holidays.

rombuu.

Fri Dec 08, 2006 at 01:40:46 PM EST

none

Here's my simple rule: I don't tip any of those people they mention in the article extra around Christmas.

Postal workers?  Gimme a fuckin' break.

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Re: Here's A Tip For The Holidays.

port1080.

Fri Dec 08, 2006 at 01:55:16 PM EST

none

Postal workers? Gimme a fuckin' break.

Indeed, the USPS officially discourages holiday tipping. Postal workers are not supposed to accept cash tips, and non-cash gifts are supposed to be valued under $20. That said, it doesn't appear to be a rule that is strictly enforced.

Ce n'est pas une pipe. C'est une signature.

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Re: Here's A Tip For The Holidays.

MayorBob.

Fri Dec 08, 2006 at 01:59:31 PM EST

none

Nor is it a rule widely known within the USPS, apparently.  My daughter asked me how much she should give as a tip to her postman (this before I wrote this story up) and I told her I didn't have a clue.  I suggested she call the postmaster at her local post office.  She did and asked him a). was it alright to give the postman a tip, and b). was there a limit on it.

The postmaster told her that it was up to her to give a tip and also how much it should be.  No words about $20 maximum values and no cash.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Re: Here's A Tip For The Holidays.

Thalia.

Fri Dec 08, 2006 at 06:53:01 PM EST

none

According to one garage attendant: "I have a guy with a Porsche. Last year, he gave $100 and I told him I deserved more. Right away he gave me $400."  

I tip, although I never know how much to tip.   But if that garage attendant tried the line with me, he'd find himself with a crisp $1 bill instead of a $100.  Unless he did something special to really deserve that money, that type of attitude is crap.

I have to figure out tipping again this year.  I hate having to figure it out.  Every year, I have to guess what people would want.  But there is nothing worse than trying to figure out "Christmas gifts" for employees.  How much am I supposed to give my secretary anyway?

Thalia

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gifts for employees

maml.

Fri Dec 08, 2006 at 10:19:20 PM EST

none

Give 'em all a gift certificate to amazon.com for the same amount.  It shows you value them all the same as part of the team.  They can buy whatever they want with it.  Also it's easy.  I hate getting a present I'd rather not have from someone at work, it puts a weird obligation on you.  A gift certificate to Amazon is sort of like a cash bonus, but not quite.

...Dwayne was hoping that he would pay exactly the right amount of attention to Francine's clitoris.

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Dinner and drinks

1fastdog.

Sat Dec 09, 2006 at 08:44:33 AM EST

none

But there is nothing worse than trying to figure out "Christmas gifts" for employees.  How much am I supposed to give my secretary anyway?

Why not treat your employees to dinner and drinks at a quality local establishment instead of gifting everyone? One of my buds used to do this for his employees and it was always well-received by the employees. The downside is that you have to coordinate/schedule around everyone's social agenda to find a suitable night that everyone can attend.

Somewhere in my soul, there's always Rock -n- Roll... Joe Strummer

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humorlesscretin.

Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 07:50:16 AM EST

4.00 (astute)

Why not treat your employees to dinner and drinks at a quality local establishment instead of gifting everyone?

Because office Christmas parties, no matter how they're handled, generally suck.  There are rare exceptions, but if I never had to go to another one I wouldn't miss them.

Humorless. Cretinous. What'd you expect?

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stevetherobot.

Mon Dec 11, 2006 at 03:27:11 PM EST

4.00 (astute)

Why not treat your employees to dinner and drinks at a quality local establishment instead of gifting everyone?

I like my co-workers, but I'm not close to them and I don't socialize with them.  The last thing I want at Christmas time is to give up time with my family in order to go out to dinner with my co-workers.

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Re: Here's A Tip For The Holidays.

MayorBob.

Sat Dec 09, 2006 at 10:20:36 AM EST

none

"How much am I supposed to give my secretary anyway?"

How much is your secretary compensated and how much do her services mean to you?  If it's the sort of deal where she's well paid for what she does and she just does her job, then a $25 to $50 gift certificate to a store you know she might patronize if more than adequate.  If she's indispensible, then a nice dinner and drinks might be the ticket.  Of course, you already take her out to lunch during National Secretaries Day, don't you?

 

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Thalia.

Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 12:13:00 AM EST

none

I always do take her out to lunch for Secretary's Day.  And the conversation is awkward and stilted.  Both of us tend to be rather private about our personal lives.  We don't want to discuss work.  Which leaves us with the weather, and not much else.  It's one of my least favorite rituals.  My secretary is a wonderful person, she handles a lot of things I don't do well (attention to detail is not my strong suit).  But our relationship is a purely work-based one.  She doesn't want to hear about my kid, my hobbies, or my personal life, nor does she want to share hers with me; and I must say vice versa.

Thalia

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Sounds like a blast...

maml.

Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 02:24:51 AM EST

none

So it is too awkward to turn down your invite for Secretaries' Day dinner, and both of you hate it, give her a freaking gift certificate and a bottle of wine or something?  I don't like sharing my social life with most of my coworkers and employers either, and those obligitory socializing moments really lower my morale.  Is it really helping hers?

The tricky thing is not doing it this year without making her feel like you're pissed at her or something.  You could try being completely honest:  "Sweetie, Secretaries' Day dinner has been kind of stilted and lame.  Here's a nice present, lets not go through that again, OK?"  Or you could quietly let it drop or you could make up some excuse (too busy) but the last one is very lame.  

You do call your secretary "sweetie", don't you?

...Dwayne was hoping that he would pay exactly the right amount of attention to Francine's clitoris.

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Re: Sounds like a blast...

ms sue.

Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 01:13:38 PM EST

none

You could try being completely honest:  "Sweetie, Secretaries' Day dinner has been kind of stilted and lame.  Here's a nice present, lets not go through that again, OK?"

Hell, no, dear. There's no way that doesn't sound like a major kiss-off, even if the secretary hates the ritual as much as Thalia.

I say, a generous gift card related to something the woman enjoys. I mean, she can't be so private that it's impossible to figure out something. Same for Christmas.

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Re: Sounds like a blast...

Thalia.

Sun Dec 10, 2006 at 11:52:48 PM EST

none

Sadly I have to agree with Ms. Sue on this one.  We'll just keep it, but I certainly won't add to the pain by making Christmas holiday another similar stilted lunch/dinner.  I'm all for giving people things (although receiving things from my secretary makes me pretty uncomfortable... I know exactly how much she makes, and I hate to see her spend it on stuff I don't need or want.)  I'm just bad at figuring out what to give & for how much.  FWIW, she is quite well paid, but I obviously make quite a bit more.

Thalia

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stevetherobot.

Mon Dec 11, 2006 at 03:25:12 PM EST

none

But if that garage attendant tried the line with me, he'd find himself with a crisp $1 bill instead of a $100.

That's only if you don't mind how your Porsche is treated by the attendant.  

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Re: Here's A Tip For The Holidays.

Thalia.

Mon Dec 11, 2006 at 09:48:09 PM EST

none

Lucky for me, I neither drive a Porsche nor live in an area where garages and garage attendants are necessary.  

But I find people whose response to a gift is "boy, this isn't an adequate gift" to be extremely obnoxious.  

Thalia

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