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Mannequin Man

MayorBob.

Posted to Etcetera on Wed Jan 17, 2007 at 10:16:01 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

Ronald Dotson of Detroit, Michigan may or may not be a dummy.  But, he does prefer the company of dummies, so much so that he'll go to great lengths to be in the company of them.  The dummies referred to are your basic store female mannequins and because the 39-year-old Dotson has gone to great lengths on more than one occasion, he's got a problem.  Because he's once again been arrested for breaking and entering and stealing mannequins from a store, Dotson faces the prospect of life in prison.

Dotson's most recent run-in with the law occurred this past October, less than a week after being released from jail.  That's when he broke into a cleaning supply store in an attempt to abscond with a mannequin decked out in a French maid's uniform.  This marks his seventh arrest for committing essentially the same crime.  As a matter of fact, his criminal record includes nothing other than stealing female mannequins - offenses which have drawn him repeat appearances in the state prison.  Unfortunately for Dotson, prosecutors have run out of patience with Dotson and are charging him as an habitual offender and, if convicted, could result in a life sentence.

There are no details whether Dotson did or had anything kinky in mind for the dummies he stole.  Who knows, perhaps he thought he was channeling Andrew McCarthy?  Even the prosecutor believes that Dotson should get help. However, the state believes he should get that help "in a prison setting."  Kinky mannequin fetishes are not unheard of.  However, according to his defense attorney, psychiatrists aren't sure if there's any therapy available to him.

Tags: edited by Port1080, written by MayorBob, crime, three strike laws, fetish (all tags)

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Let's see.

MayorBob.

Wed Jan 17, 2007 at 07:16:59 PM EST

4.00 (astute)

The guy is a recidivist with a capital REC.  He also does manage to produce a good bit of property damage in the course of pursuing his obsession.  But his crime is so bizarre, so offbeat that it does seem a complete waste of a prison cell to house this guy for the rest of his life.  I find it difficult to believe there isn't some form of therapy which could be used to break him of his habit and save the taxpayer a whole bunch of money.  Of course there is that old adage at work that says in order to be cured, the person must first want to be cured.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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tomc.

Wed Jan 17, 2007 at 10:18:36 PM EST

5.00 (funny, brilliant)

But his crime is so bizarre, so offbeat that it does seem a complete waste of a prison cell to house this guy for the rest of his life.

I'm afraid once this guy uses the internet to get together with mannequin thieves around the world and they reach the magic number of what? 100,000 mannequins? and then they develop some sort of animation technique and turn the mannequins into an army of ninjas...

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Re: Let's see.

gerrymander.

Thu Jan 18, 2007 at 11:03:56 AM EST

5.00 (interesting)

Even paying for therapy is too much to spend on this guy. I say the court should mandate he buy his own mannequin and maid's uniform, and grant approval for the cops to fill his home's locks with superglue at random but frequent intervals. Maybe after the 20th time or so of needing to repair the damage to his own place, he'll start to lose interest in the whole scheme.

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nmiguy.

Thu Jan 18, 2007 at 09:48:16 AM EST

none

We could just have joe taxpayer spring the 100 bucks or so to get the guy a mannequin of his own.  Better than sprining for the tab to house and feed the guy for the rest of his natural life.  The prosecutor here is not thinking straight.  He is not doing society a favor by locking this weirdo up for the rest of his life.  Sometimes society just needs to tolerate and put up with a few weirdos out there.  

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MayorBob.

Thu Jan 18, 2007 at 10:04:07 AM EST

none

Life in prison isn't even a question in my mind, because it's a ludicrous penalty to impose for what is purely a minor property crime.  To all those who are alleging we have to lock this guy up and throw away the key because he might go from department store dummy to someone's daughter, I find it too much of a stretch in that he has never gone beyond department store dummy theft.

That said, the guy needs help and counseling.  I sort of doubt that just buying him his own mannequin is going to cure what's scrambled in this guy's circuitry.  After all, just because he has this one, doesn't mean that he won't absolutely, positively have to have the next one he sees.  He needs to have whatever it is that tells him busting into stores and stealing mannequins is a worthwhile need to fulfill.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Re: Let's see.

nmiguy.

Thu Jan 18, 2007 at 10:20:05 AM EST

none

Yeah this guy is a whack job, but his crimes are no weirder than teh crap Howard Stern does on his show.  I mean when you get people with serious problems of self esteem to strap into some sybian machine with the cameras rolling and Howard stern exploiting it, that is pretty vile.  Yet he gets away with it as "entertainment".  And here is this guy with a particular kink for mannequins, not really hurting anybody, and we got people wanting to put him away for LIFE.  Something tells me that if Dotson were rich and famous, he'd get off with a pat on the wrist, a la Hugh Grant or George Michael.  Does he need help?  Perhaps.  But if mannequins make him happy, then I don't really give a crap.  

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Could there be a market?

Lou.

Thu Jan 18, 2007 at 03:16:32 PM EST

none

We could just have joe taxpayer spring the 100 bucks or so to get the guy a mannequin of his own.

You know...one man's disgust is another man's fetish.  This guy can't be the only mannequin-phile out there.  I wonder if there is money to be made in a Mannequin-of-the-month club?

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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port1080.

Wed Jan 17, 2007 at 11:15:18 AM EST

none

What the hell - life in prison might be a bit much, but he definitely deserves a long sentence. Even if his crime is relatively "minor" this guy has still done the same thing seven times in a row. He's shown that he has no self-control or respect for the law. While his crimes have been confined to his mannequin fetish so far, he's already shown himself to be willing to commit crimes to satisfy himself. Who knows when he'll decide to take it to the next level? I'd rather have him in jail, then to laugh this off and then have him end up raping someone a few years down the line.

Ce n'est pas une pipe. C'est une signature.

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Steve Urkel.

Wed Jan 17, 2007 at 01:22:45 PM EST

none

Are mannequins expensive? Why doesn't he just buy one?

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You get what you pay for...

Lou.

Wed Jan 17, 2007 at 02:57:04 PM EST

5.00 (brilliant)

But what would you pay for real art (nsfw)?  $10,000?  $9,000? $8,000? $7,000?  Would you believe that you can own a work of silicone made flesh for the low low price of $6499.00?

Maybe we should take up a collection for the guy.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Re: You get what you pay for...

Steve Urkel.

Wed Jan 17, 2007 at 03:27:55 PM EST

4.00 (interesting)

He could get a mannequin with nice jugs for a couple hundred bucks. What a bargain.

Mannequin dude is funny, but I find the Real Doll afficiandos repulsive. I suspect most of them are necrophilliacs.

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Thalia.

Wed Jan 17, 2007 at 04:05:02 PM EST

none

I think it's a huge stretch to go from breaking & entering, or even theft to rape, don't you think?   He certainly has a problem, and is a repeat offender, but I don't see the advantage of putting him in jail.  He seems like the perfect candidate for alternative sentencing.  GPS him, and order him to stay away from stores that have manikins.  In the meantime he can be a productive citizen, and we don't end up paying $30K/year for feeding & housing him, and making him not only less likely to be able to hold a job later, but also a more effective criminal.  

Thalia

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port1080.

Wed Jan 17, 2007 at 04:42:00 PM EST

none

I think it's a huge stretch to go from breaking & entering, or even theft to rape, don't you think?

Is it? I mean, the stories aren't completely clear but this certainly seems to have a sexual slant to it. Criminals who engage in sex crimes have the highest recidivism rate; and it's been suggested that they tend to escalate (i.e. if you look at a rapist's past, there are usually warning signs). Combine that with this guy's obvious disrespect for the law and some serious punishment seems warranted. I mean come on - he's done this eight times already. He's already been told to stay away from stores, I'm sure. Do you really think "alternative sentencing" is going to stop him?

Ce n'est pas une pipe. C'est une signature.

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thefadd.

Wed Jan 17, 2007 at 06:38:06 PM EST

5.00 (astute)

Is it?

Yes. As you yourself point out, he has done this an inordinate number of times. How many times would it take to convince you that he wasn't going to take this to the "next level." Fifteen? Fifty? Five hundred? Do you see where your logic in this case is simply a fallacy? It's disgraceful that so much of my tax money must go to protect the mannequin owners of the world. Who can't protect a mannequin? Alternative sentencing seems like the only reasonable way to go. Life in prison is the bureaucratic "easy way out" that costs us more money.

escalators never fail; they just become stairs

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port1080.

Wed Jan 17, 2007 at 07:16:58 PM EST

2.00 (illiterate)

How many times would it take to convince you that he wasn't going to take this to the "next level.

The more he did it, the more I'd be nervous he might take it one further. Would you say the same thing about a kid that killed cats for fun? "Hey look at Johny, he killed 10 cats - I guess he'll just stick with that. I was worried when he killed the first two, but since he hasn't killed anything else I guess we don't need to worry about him other than to sentence him to stay away from cats and pet stores" - does that logic make sense to you?

Ce n'est pas une pipe. C'est une signature.

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Thalia.

Wed Jan 17, 2007 at 08:26:24 PM EST

none

But breaking in & stealing a mannequin doesn't hurt any humans.  That's entirely unlike rape or assault.  It doesn't even harm a living being, like killing cats.  I'm not worried that this guy will do anything more dangerous or antisocial.  He seems pathetic, but he doesn't seem dangerous.

Thalia

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profwhat.

Wed Jan 17, 2007 at 09:52:44 PM EST

none

Your reasoning -- (1) doesn't hurt any humans (bodily), (2) unlike rape or assault, (3) doesn't even harm an animal, and (4) the defendant is unlikely to do anything more dangerous or antisocial -- would let a lot of people off the hook.  

Jeff Skilling has been sentenced to 24 years.  He didn't hurt anyone bodily, is not a violent man, is a friend to animals, and probably won't do anything dangerous or antisocial.  Well, securities fraud is kind of antisocial, but then, so is stealing mannequins, right?

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MayorBob.

Wed Jan 17, 2007 at 10:05:38 PM EST

5.00 (astute)

Um, it might just be me, but Skillings ruined a whole bunch of people's lives which might be why he richly deserves to spend the next 24 years behind bars.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Thalia.

Thu Jan 18, 2007 at 04:31:52 AM EST

4.00 (interesting)

Your reasoning -- (1) doesn't hurt any humans (bodily), (2) unlike rape or assault, (3) doesn't even harm an animal, and (4) the defendant is unlikely to do anything more dangerous or antisocial -- would let a lot of people off the hook.

I don't recall saying anything about letting him off the hook.  I was arguing that making the statement that he is at risk for raping or otherwise harming a human is a huge stretch from what is in effect a pure property crime.  I also think that this person needs monitoring and psychological counselling, not jail time.  To be perfectly honest, I would be fine with sentencing Skilling to 20 years of teaching high school math in the Bronx.  He'd do a lot more good in the world than he will rotting in a prison.  But then, I'm a big fan of alternative sentences.  I think only violent criminals who actually pose a physical danger should be locked up.

Thalia

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Thalia.

Wed Jan 17, 2007 at 08:29:43 PM EST

5.00 (informative)

Criminals who engage in sex crimes have the highest recidivism rate.

That's actually false.  Overall recidivism rates are at 68% while sex crime recidivism rates are at 43%.  Do facts change your mind?

Thalia

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port1080.

Wed Jan 17, 2007 at 10:08:12 PM EST

none

That's actually false. Overall recidivism rates are at 68% while sex crime recidivism rates are at 43%.

There are two separate things here...sex criminals are more likely to commit the same crime again than other offenders - as your link itself states, "Sex offenders were about four times more likely than non-sex offenders to be arrested for another sex crime after their discharge from prison -- 5.3 percent of sex offenders versus 1.3 percent of non-sex offenders." So, as in most cases, it depends on how you look at the data. A paper surveying the available data can be found here, and I suppose that you can draw support for either of our conclusions from it.

Ce n'est pas une pipe. C'est une signature.

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Thalia.

Thu Jan 18, 2007 at 04:29:36 AM EST

5.00 (astute, brilliant)

Recidivism:  The likelihood of committing another crime.  Sex criminals are less likely to do so than non-sex criminals.  However, someone who has committed a sex crime is more likely to commit another sex crime than someone who had previously not committed a sex crime.  That is not recidivism, that is the likelihood of committing a sex crime in particular.  

By the way, last I checked, stealing maniquins is not a sex crime.

Thalia

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nmiguy.

Thu Jan 18, 2007 at 09:58:47 AM EST

none

Thalia, you absolutely are correct.  The hysteria over mannequin man is a prosecutor imposing a sex crime type of response to a derranged property crime.

Even if this guy had sex with the mannequins, is THAT a sex crime?  Also, you mention "stealing mannquins."  Did he actually "steal" the mannequins?  My understanding is that he did several break ins and damaged some property.  Is he a thief and a sex criminal as well???

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ms sue.

Thu Jan 18, 2007 at 10:31:28 AM EST

none

Also, you mention "stealing mannquins."  Did he actually "steal" the mannequins?

From the article:

Dotson was first convicted in Ferndale for breaking a store window in pursuit of female mannequins in 1993. Police say they arrested him after he had stolen three female mannequins from a downtown business and lined them up in an alley behind the store.

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In pursuit

tomc.

Thu Jan 18, 2007 at 12:55:59 PM EST

4.00 (funny)

in pursuit of female mannequins

Mannequins are tricky.  It's much more effective to ambush them instead of directly pursuing them.

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Re: In pursuit

MayorBob.

Thu Jan 18, 2007 at 02:03:53 PM EST

none

Especially if they become an army of 10,000 ninja mannequins.  Then the only thing that will work is stealth.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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nmiguy.

Thu Jan 18, 2007 at 09:50:35 AM EST

none

Gee I don't have a problem with him serving some jail time for repeat breaking and entering and damage etc.  But live in prison is excessive.  The guy has a problem, society has a problem.  Society can just get him a mannequin and be done with it.  

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port1080.

Thu Jan 18, 2007 at 10:04:17 AM EST

none

Society can just get him a mannequin and be done with it.

What makes anyone think this would stop him? Mannequins aren't that expensive - this guy clearly wants to steal mannequins, not just possess them. If he'd only done this two or three times I'd agree he's a good candidate for treatment / rehab - but you've got to think that after SEVEN TIMES he's probably gone through some treatment and some rehab, and he keeps doing it. This guy is seriously flawed, and a little scary. Why is everyone so willing to give him a pass?

Ce n'est pas une pipe. C'est une signature.

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nmiguy.

Thu Jan 18, 2007 at 10:15:19 AM EST

none

Well it is interesting that you use the term "pass".  I don't think people want to give him a pass.  Just that life in prison seems excessive for this crime.  Okay, after reading the article the guy stole some mannequins.  He also broke into stores to dress up the mannequins in French maid outfits.  He seems to be satisfying a fetish and also wanting to shock people as well.  Maybe he is trying to convey some message.  Whatever the case may be.  I think he SHOULD serve some time in prison for his crimes.  I do not think he should get LIFE in prison.  That is NOT a pass.  I also am open to the idea of alternate sentencing as Thalia describes.  Prisons should be more than warehouses for weirdos.  They should be primarily to protect society from violent felons.  

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Mannequin Man

pO157.

Wed Jan 17, 2007 at 11:29:30 AM EST

none

"Come on home, girl he said with a smile
You don't have to love me yet
Lets get high awhile
But try to understand
Try to understand
Try try try to understand
I'm a Mannequin Man.
...I've got magic hands."

I don't own a gun; my ancestors were Quakers!

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