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Primary Colors

pO157.

Posted to Politics on Mon Nov 19, 2007 at 07:23:17 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

Two states have held a monopoly on being the first to begin the Presidential Primary contest every four years: New Hampshire and Iowa. The 2008 election may shake things up with various states trying to move their primaries to earlier days, and candidates ignoring New Hampshire or Iowa to go after delegate rich populous states scheduled for later in the primary season.

New Hampshire has always required that it be the first to hold a Presidential Primary, at least seven days before any other state. This gives disproportionate media and candidate attention to a state with a small population and often weeds out candidates who do not place well in the first primary before they can be considered by the rest of the nation. This year, some states, such as Florida and Michigan attempted to buck that trend by moving their primary dates earlier -- ahead of the earliest party sanctioned date of Feb 5th. The Democratic Party responded by threatening to remove or "disenfranchise" all of the Sunshine State's delegation to the national convention if Florida continues to insist its primary will be held on Jan 25th.

Other states moved their primary dates up to the earliest possible moment - February 5th. Some to wield their states enormous population in the primary race, others considered it simply to avoid irrelevance. As it stands now Feb 5, 2008 plays host to at least 20 primaries, earning the nickname Tsunami Tuesday.

All of this date switching and scores of preponed primaries has caused many to question if the presidential primary system is broken. The current secretary of the Democratic Party, Alice Travis Germond, complained that the system is in dire need of repair: "This process is still a mess. Eight years ago we said it was broken and getting broker. It's now broker and getting more broker."

Critics of earlier primaries complain that pushing the start of the first votes into early January (or perhaps late December) would only elongate the misery of a national presidential race and push the time on the campaign trail between clinching the nomination and election into the better part of a year. Whether or not the system needs to be immediately fixed, and if so, how is a big topic of debate. One plan which was almost approved in 2000, the Delaware Primary Plan, calls for states to be broken up into groups based on population and then "backloading" the primary schedule. The primary groups would then be split up a few weeks apart and the elections would then become increasingly more and more important as time goes on. It would also shorten the length of time between clinching the nomination and the national convention, as well as allow smaller candidates expanded opportunities to get their name out there if initial votes do not go their way in the smaller states.

A second scheme, the American Plan, randomizes primary dates (pdf) in sections of states with similar population. The less populous areas go first which allows smaller candidates to gain support with a surprise primary victory. To avoid an early clinch of the nomination, the more populous states get primary dates later on in the schedule ensuring that almost all areas of the country get a vote that "counts" in the primary contest. The random dates of elections, coupled with spread out primary contests ensure each state gets the proper amount of attention it deserves and prevents a "Tsunami Tuesday" from forming.

Of course, to implement either of these plans it would take a great deal of nationwide co-operation during the next 4 years before the 2012 national contest, something that may be lacking if the events of the past few months are any indicator.

Tags: edited by Port1080, written by pO157, Democrats, 2008 election, election 2008, primarys, New Hampshire, Delaware, politics (all tags)

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the wetkarma plan

wetkarma.

Mon Nov 19, 2007 at 08:12:11 AM EST

5.00 (interesting, astute)

States get their primary dates set based on their percentage turnout in the prior election. Higher turnout gets to go first.

No primary can be held prior to February 5th of the election year.

That is all.

Memory is a strange bell, jubilee and knell.

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Re: the wetkarma plan

thefadd.

Mon Nov 19, 2007 at 02:21:53 PM EST

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Not a bad idea at all...I was going to say the Delaware plan was my fave but that one seems even more equitable. Too bad neither will have happen...

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Another election system which won't ever happen.

Shy Elf.

Tue Nov 20, 2007 at 05:18:41 PM EST

5.00 (interesting)

I'm really amazed that the current system lasted as long as it did.  It was basically put in place in 1972 when we first had a majority of delegates elected by primary and committed to vote for their candidates, and since then the earliest states have had the most power, with the later states just voluntarily agreeing to have their power reduced by voting later.  In recent years, candidates don't even pay lip service to the idea that the later primaries matter, with almost all of the candidates conceding before the last primaries even take place.

The spread in primary dates serves the purpose of having a primary for the primary, in that the candidates are narrowed by the first few primaries, and this gives the voters a better chance to focus and pick between the few remaining primaries.  In a simultaneous primary, it's only important to stand out from the crowd rather than in a direct comparison, the winner would likely be whomever had the largest initial cash bundle even more than today, encouraging even more corrupt government.

My proposal is that we take the list of people who voted in the last national primary election for the party we're selecting a candidate for, assign all of them a number, draw 101 random numbers,  (101 being prime and close to the roughly 100 people who can function well in a direct democracy), and take the selected people and lock them in a hotel for two months with free access to the candidates and a well set-up bulletin board system with public access.  If they don't agree, keep picking until you get people who do.  After they elect a candidate with 51 votes, pay the ones a jury agrees have been working 8 hours a day at picking the best candidate $1M each.

This is essentially a return to the national convention system, except that the representatives are randomly selected instead of being party apparatchicks, and the uninformed voter problem is also solved.

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How about instant run-off primary voting?

port1080.

Mon Nov 26, 2007 at 10:39:20 AM EST

5.00 (astute)

An instant runoff system for the primaries would be ideal. It would give the lesser candidates as much of a chance as the current system, while still allowing a single national primary date (let's make it in March, though, okay?). It would be easier to implement than either of the plans bandied about in the writeup - 20 states already have their primary on the same day now, so there's only 30 states to convince (as opposed to 50 to convince of the other plans). New Hampshire and Iowa can just be told to go fuck themselves if they refuse to sign on to the national date. It would be nice karmic retribution for having to put up with hearing about how politically savvy and representative of America that their completely unrepresentative (i.e. glaringly white, conservative, rural) populations are.

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Re: How about instant run-off primary voting?

thefadd.

Mon Nov 26, 2007 at 08:03:29 PM EST

4.00 (interesting)

I agree with you about the instant runoff concept and in general about NH and Iowa, but for all their white, conservative, rural, knocks, they have been pretty progressive, if not wholly representative.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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