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They tried to make me go to rehab but I said 'no, no, no'

pO157.

Posted to SciTech on Thu Dec 20, 2007 at 09:59:20 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

For years, physicians in most states have had the option to enter rehab if it was discovered they had a substance abuse problem. Many programs even allowed them to continue to work while undergoing drug treatment programs and, upon completion, hide their past from their patients. To the outrage of the American Medical Association and addiction recovery specialists, this policy is being discontinued by California after several high profile cases convinced policymakers that it does not protect the public.

In 1999, Dr. Brian West was arrested for DUI. Days later, he allegedly botched a breast removal and reconstruction surgery on Becky Anderson that left a hole in her abdomen that (viewer discretion advised) caused her internal organs to spill out. There are many cases like these were physicians are believed to have practiced medicine with disastrous results while possibly under the influence, or already known to have a substance problem and allowed to keep their jobs while in rehab. The outrage over this behavior caused California to end programs where MDs with drug or alcohol problems were allowed to continue practicing while in drug rehab and then to hide their substance abuse history from their patients in the future.

For 27 years California, like many other states, had programs where physicians who were found to have substance abuse problems could keep their problems hidden from their patients and continue to work as long as they participated in a treatment program. California recently decided to end their program after finding that it did not seem to protect patients or help addicted doctors with their recovery. The American Medical Association disagrees arguing that without voluntary and confidential ways for doctors to get into treatment the problem would only get worse, according to Sandra Bressler of the California Chapter "If you don't have confidential participation, you don't get people into the program."

The President of the California medical board argues the change is required. "To hide something from consumers, something so blatant ... it's unconscionable today."

Former addicted physicians who got over their problem support the program. Former anethesthesiologist Dr. Jason Giles of Malibu finished treatment in 2004 after five years of work. He says his recovery affected him so much he quit practing as an anesthesiologist and opened a drug treatment center for impaired doctors. Dr. Giles is a major advocate for allowing physicians in treatment to keep working and keep their situation confidential, "Working actually helps them get better."

The repealed regulations fall off the books on June 30th. After that point, California will revert to a pre-1980 system where any physician found to have an alcohol or substance abuse problem will be immediately stripped of his or her license to practice. As many as 8,000 doctors nationwide, or 1 out of every 100 practicing physicians is belived to be in an addiction program.

For fun, here is an Alcoholics Anonymous standard drinking quiz to see if you have a substance problem!

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Re: They tried to make me go to rehab but I said '

thefadd.

Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 01:39:48 AM EST

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I just want to talk about Amy Winehouse. What the hell's up with her? Not getting your visa straight is one thing but fixing your boyfriend's jury is some pretty out of control shit...I hope I get her CD for christmas, tho. Or maybe that other brit girl singer, the one that sings about tesco and her brother smoking pot.

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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JimmyHavok.

Sun Dec 23, 2007 at 12:20:04 AM EST

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Three days ago, I would have completely missed the pop cultcha reference here, but I was driving in an NPR dead zone and listening to pop radio, and "Rehab" came on.  I liked it enough to look it up.  Amy Winehouse was just a name in the tabs to me up to that point.

Winehouse seems to be one of those mad artists like Rimbaud or Shane McGowan.

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Zero tolerance...the solution?

3fingerspointback.

Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 06:57:40 PM EST

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The West example seems a little misleading.  West doesn't appear to have been in any rehab program at the time he made the original bad surgery, which was before his DUI accident.  If anything, West is an is an argument that the law should be even more accommodating towards doctors, but in a way that encourages them to seek therapy rather than hiding it until things get out of hand.  On the other hand, I as a patient don't want let Dr. Feelgood anywhere near my body (unless it's to write some prescriptions).  What if refusal to enter a rehab program was treated as a demerit against the physician and logged in their public record?  Was that already what was happening?

(is 3fingerspointback)

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Re: Zero tolerance...the solution?

port1080.

Sat Dec 22, 2007 at 11:55:38 PM EST

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Why should they even get a second chance? A school bus driver caught drinking on the job would be fired on the spot. We make everyone from retail clerks to subway conductors take random drug tests. What special right to doctors have to fuck around with people's lives that those people don't? Just because being a doctor is a "profession", they get the benefit of the doubt. It's a bunch of baloney in my book. If they can't control themselves, they should be looking for another job, no ifs, ands, or buts. A one strike and you're out policy is what we should have - maybe the threat of losing that nice job and the Porsche will keep them off the sauce. If not, I doubt voluntary "rehab" will do much better.

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3fingerspointback.

Sun Dec 23, 2007 at 02:22:31 AM EST

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A school bus driver caught drinking on the job would be fired on the spot.

Good idea.  Nowhere is it stated that West wasn't sober when the breast reduction operation went wrong, and he was apparently able to keep his professional life together enough that the second malpractice case didn't stick.  For all we know, Anderson's complications happened because the OR wasn't properly sterilized, and the real culprit in her case was the cost-cutting hospital.

We make everyone from retail clerks to subway conductors take random drug tests. What special right to doctors have to fuck around with people's lives that those people don't?

Huh?  Special rights?  What special duty requires everyone to be drug tested?  That service workers are not striking over this issue doesn't give it any blessing.  Testing clerks, janitors, and anyone not particularly responsible for the lives of others is asinine and a waste of money passed on to me the consumer.  And for the rest--pilots, doctors, people who need security clearance--it will only catch those who are so hooked that they can't hold off for a few weeks before the test.

The real issue here is the same one behind spiraling doctor's insurance costs--the inability of the medical profession to effectively police itself and remove its own members from positions of responsibility.  A doctor who injures her patients because she's on the juice needs to be decertified as fast as one who injures his because he's stupid.  Instead, laws like this only attack half the problem, and inefficiently to boot.

(is 3fingerspointback)

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Lou.

Tue Dec 25, 2007 at 02:08:05 PM EST

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What special right to doctors have to fuck around with people's lives that those people don't?

AMA

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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More info. Show it to me. I want to see more info.

pO157.

Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 10:02:24 PM EST

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I think I need to know more about how this program works before I pass judgment. I have no real problem with a first time offender who shows that they have done a complete 180 after voluntarily taking the initiative to get clean to go back to work with the slate wiped clean. But, the whole 'working while in rehab' thing kind of gets me worrying. Does that mean Dr. Crack McPipe can just say "Oh, I have a problem" right before the DEA shows up at his house and start treatment the next day at one of those white collar resort rehabs? The next day, he's back at work with a glimmer in his eye and dimples in his face trying to save lives while hiding the shakes and DTs from Dr. Gillespie.  You don't want that.

Also, I'd really like to believe the articles when they said that physicians tend to complete rehab at a higher success rate than us mere mortals. But, knowing the overall dismal rates rehab seems to have I wonder if these folks are just really good at hiding it. Most physicians I have met either charismatic people, or can at least turn the charm and authority on when they need to and so I imagine they would be able to hide their ongoing problems. Especially when you consider that the people reviewing their progress in fighting the dragon are probably their peers who strongly want to believe and not see all that talent and medical school loans go to waste.

I agree that voluntary programs are a good idea. If there is no way for people to voluntarily get treatment without being stigmatized the problem will get worse. The only thing is that it has to be monitored and managed appropriately so it ends up doing more good than harm. The last thing anybody needs is a strung out Quincy doing autopsies and hindering police investigations.

Also, what is up with that doctor from the links? Is it possible for him to look more like a jackass?

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Not as open as you'd think

Nameless Cynic.

Wed Dec 26, 2007 at 10:45:38 AM EST

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Well, I work in a hospital, so let me just point out the following. Doctors are usually drug/alcohol tested before they're allowed privileges in a facility. They're also usually tested by the group they belong to (there's a lot of outsourcing in the medical field, too. Only about a third (or less) of the doctors on staff belong to the Medical Group). We do a pretty extensive background check before they're privileged, to include queries from the AMA, the Federation of States' Medical Boards, their insurance company, the National Practitioners Data Bank, the state Medical Board, the state Board of Pharmacy, and the DEA. We also request Peer Reviews from at least 4 doctors who know them, and we query any hospital where they've had privileges in the last 8 years. (I should also mention the Monitored Treatment Program, which is a voluntary opportunity to seek help, operated by the state.) So it isn't like these people are operating with no constraints. With the hospital just as liable as the doctor's behavior these days, we're pretty careful.

It's like "Night of the Living Republican." The idiots are right outside, and they want to eat your brain.

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