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Lions And Tigers, Oh My!

MayorBob.

Posted to Etcetera on Thu Dec 27, 2007 at 03:16:15 PM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

The mission of the San Francisco Zoo is "to connect people with wildlife, inspire caring for nature and advance conservation action."  Three zoo patrons on Christmas Day were connected with wildlife, but not in a way anyone would have wanted to see happen.  One of the zoo's largest cats managed to get out of its enclosure and, once the carnage ended the final body count was two dead (one tiger, one human) and two injured.

The attack occurred right after the zoo closed at 5pm.  There were still visitors inside the park, some of them casually finishing a bite to eat at the Terrace Café restaurant which is adjacent to the lions and tiger display area. Tatiana, a four year old Siberian tiger managed to jump a 15 foot wide moat and scale a 20 foot high wall.  Tatiana headed straight for the restaurant, where it attacked three patrons.  Police were called in and, when they managed to distract the cat from attacking one of its victims, they shot and killed it.  Robert Jenkins, director of animal care at the zoo, was dumbfounded at how the attacks could have occurred:

"We don't know how it was able to get out.  The tiger should not have been able to jump (out). This is the first thing we will be investigating."
Nobody asked Jenkins if he had a sense of déjà vu about the attack.  Perhaps they'll get around to that because just a little over a year ago the exact same animal attacked a zookeeper during a public feeding demonstration.  That attack cost Lori Komejan an arm.  Fault was found with the way the zoo arranged the feeding cages for the demonstration.  Tatiana was not put down after that attack and following (US)$250,000 in security upgrades, public feeding resumed in September.

It was a reminder that, even though zoos bring wild animals in close proximity to humans, the animals remain wild.  Between 1990 and 2000, animal attacks at zoos around the world resulted in 87 human deaths.  60 captive animals were destroyed due to these attacks.  This is a list of recent animal attacks (not all necessarily zoo animals).

All of which will probably revive the debate about whether zoos are necessary or not.  An impartial observer might say there are good zoos and then there are bad zoos.  That same impartial observer might say that, for some species, even a good zoo is no good for them.

Tags: edited by Port1080, written by MayorBob, zoos, animal attacks, death, mauling, bad zoos, good zoos (all tags)

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Re: Lions And Tigers, Oh My!

Admit The Woods.

Thu Dec 27, 2007 at 08:28:05 PM EST

5.00 (astute)

Even if no taunting was involved, has anyone questioned the decision to kill the tiger as opposed to tranquilize it? I mean, sure, okay, maneater, taste for human flesh, etc., blah blah, but there are over 6 billion of us out there assassinating political leaders and shooting fuck out of each other in malls and posting aimlessly to Interweb message boards (!) and generally acting like dicks, while probably less than 600 Siberian tigers currently grace the planet. I'm a long ways from being some PETA fanatic, but even killing one of these animals -- unless it's absolutely undeniably necessary -- feels like a fucking crime in light of those numbers. Worse still if some whistle-headed bozo(s) with nothing better to do after over-indulging in seasonal abundance and self-satisfied entitlement actually provoked the attack. (I feel an attack of misanthropy coming on...)

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ms sue.

Thu Dec 27, 2007 at 09:02:28 PM EST

none

Even if no taunting was involved, has anyone questioned the decision to kill the tiger as opposed to tranquilize it?

I doubt it, because it was "absolutely undeniably necessary."

Alerted by frantic calls from the zoo, four officers arrived in two police cars and tracked the tiger to the cafe. The tiger was sitting next to one victim but, when the officers arrived, it resumed its attack.

"The tiger jumped back on top," police Sgt. Steve Mannina said. "The victim had blood on his face."

The animal, distracted by the four officers and by the flashing red lights of the patrol cars, abandoned its victim and advanced toward the officers, Mannina said. The officers all fired their .40-caliber handguns, striking the tiger an unknown number of times.

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Admit The Woods.

Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 01:40:10 AM EST

none

Hey Sue, haven't talked to you in a while. My larger point, or just question really, was that, from the news releases, it really isn't clear how "absolutely necessary" it was. Well done for having more information than everyone else, though. And Happy New Year, of course. ;)

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Admit The Woods.

Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 02:03:39 AM EST

none

Or, alternately, I guess that's okay if you automatically accept the police version of every incident that results in a fatality, even if it's a "mere" nonhuman that draws the short stick.

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Somewhere, Up In Carnivore Heaven.

TonedEff.

Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 05:18:54 AM EST

none

Tatiana roars "can't we all just get along?"

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ms sue.

Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 11:11:39 AM EST

none

Or, alternately, I guess that's okay if you automatically accept the police version of every incident that results in a fatality, even if it's a "mere" nonhuman that draws the short stick.

Oh, come on, man. I guess it's okay to use that alternate response in ANY such situation, even when the evidence is overwhelming (it was right in the links and everywhere else on the news) and there has been, AFAIK, absolutely no report to the contrary.

It now appears that after possibly being taunted, the animal scaled a wall that was woefully short. It's that design flaw that will be the focus of the investigation, not the shooting of the tiger who was on the attack.

Now, if you want to talk about inhumane treatment of these animals, it's not hard to find egregious examples.

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JimmyHavok.

Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 01:24:06 PM EST

none

I'm a dyed-in-the-wool cat lover, but if I came up on a loose tiger, I'd start shooting it too, even if it wasn't already eating a person.

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Lou.

Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 02:58:25 PM EST

none

Hey!  I love cats too.  We should share recipes.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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MayorBob.

Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 04:23:30 PM EST

none

If you do, Iron Chef, can you spare us how you tenderize the meat.  You know, let it sit out on Route 1 for about an hour.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Lou.

Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 05:39:03 PM EST

none

mmmmmm...flat cat carbonara.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Perspective

port1080.

Thu Dec 27, 2007 at 03:24:48 PM EST

4.00 (interesting)

While zoo injuries like this are spectacular, I'd bet more people die or are injured each year from amusement park accidents than from zoo animal attacks. Getting back to a discussion we had a week or so ago in the story about ebola & bird flu - people just don't have a good conception of risk. Spectacular stories like this get a lot of coverage, but you're still probably far safer at a zoo than at a lot of other public places.

As for whether zoos are good for animals or not - I think that's hardly the point. They're probably not the best for the individual animals in captivity, but for the overall species I think they're invaluable. There's no better way to get people interested in animal preservation than to have them see the creatures up close - and since most people are never going to be able to afford that African safari, a zoo will have to be the next best thing.

Ce n'est pas une pipe. C'est une signature.

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MayorBob.

Thu Dec 27, 2007 at 03:54:03 PM EST

none

According to this source, fatalities at amusement parks have averaged about four per year since 1987.  Considering the humongous numbers of people who ride on attractions at amusement parks, that's not a really astounding number.  Especially if you believe IAAPA's projection of 1.8 billion rides per year resulting in four deaths.  The 87 deaths ascribable to animal attacks at zoos between 1990 and 2000 works out to roughly 8 per year.  But then, did close to 20 billion people (11 years times 1.8 billion) even visit large predatory animal exhibits between 1990 and 2000.

I threw the question about whether zoos are good or bad for animals because I believe, if it is not the point, it's at least partially the point.  There are good zoos and then there are bad zoos, as I stated in my story.  Even the best zoos can't give enough room for elephants to thrive.  They need the expanse of something like this place.  But, even for smaller animals, sometimes locking them up in buildings can have tragic consequences (and that was at one of the better zoos in the world).  

I'm less taken by the argument that the only way you will be able to get people interested in animal preservation is by putting them on public display at a zoo.  Is that what impels most visits to the zoo?  Is it a serious learning experience about biological diversity or some mandatory school outing or an excuse to watch the monkeys cavort?  Do people generally come away from a visit to the zoo with a better understanding of the plight of the mountain gorilla or do they just think those chimps are the cutest darned animals and those birds in the bird house are, at once, the most colorful and noisy group of animals alive?  

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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port1080.

Thu Dec 27, 2007 at 04:06:22 PM EST

4.00 (astute, astute)

I don't think your comparison of the zoo death numbers to the amusement park numbers is valid, because the zoo death numbers are worldwide, while the amusement park numbers come only from the US. My guess is that US zoos (and amusement parks) are held to much higher standards than those abroad. I'd like to see a tally of the number of deaths at American zoos (I looked a little, but I couldn't find any numbers with just a quick search and I don't have time to dig right now). I also wonder if the zoo fatality numbers are just zoo guests, or also include trainers, handlers, and feeders/caretakers. My guess would be that the amusement park numbers come only from park guests, while the zoo deaths probably come more from employees.

Do people generally come away from a visit to the zoo with a better understanding of the plight of the mountain gorilla or do they just think those chimps are the cutest darned animals and those birds in the bird house are, at once, the most colorful and noisy group of animals alive?

I think having them come away with a love for the animals is the first step. Seeing them up close and personal gives you an appreciation you can never get just from seeing them in print or video. Sure, some people blast through and don't really get anything from the experience, but there's still a lot of education value (particularly, I think, for school-age children) that can be had from trips to the zoo and being exposed to the wide variety of creatures that they can put out on display.

Ce n'est pas une pipe. C'est une signature.

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TonedEff.

Thu Dec 27, 2007 at 06:05:19 PM EST

none

One of the reasons sensational stories like this do get so much coverage is because you're never supposed to go to the zoo and get eaten by the animals.  That's why zoos have cages and fences and moats and stuff like that.  Amusement park rides involve at least a semblance of willing risk on the part of riders.  We're talking about machines operated by human operators and machines go haywire and operators can always go asleep at the switch.  But, who goes to the zoo expecting the tiger to maul or eat you?

But, when things go really bad at amusement parks, don't they get about as much play in the media as this attack got?

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thefadd.

Thu Dec 27, 2007 at 11:54:10 PM EST

none

But, who goes to the zoo expecting the tiger to maul or eat you?

I know--that's totally what the monkey safari at six flags is for!

It is easy to buy small plaster models of what you think life is like.

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Cool thing, walking with a kitty

Steve Urkel.

Thu Dec 27, 2007 at 03:47:32 PM EST

none

I was suspicious when I first heard this, it seems funny animal guy Jack Hanna is too:

"The zoo's director of animal care and conservation, Robert Jenkins, said the tiger did not leave through an open door. "The animal appears to have climbed or otherwise leaped out of the enclosure," he said.

But Jack Hanna, former Columbus Zoo director and a frequent TV guest, said such a leap would be "virtually impossible." Instead, he speculated that visitors might have taunted the animal and perhaps even helped it get out by, say, putting a board in the moat."

Siberian tigers aren't great leapers, and this captive one isn't in the best shape.

 

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MayorBob.

Thu Dec 27, 2007 at 04:12:16 PM EST

5.00 (informative)

When I first read reports of possible taunting, it was reported along the lines that one or all of the victims had taunted the tiger by foolishly running to get away from it.  The common wisdom is you stay absolutely still in the face of an approaching tiger.  Of course that common wisdom fails in light of a very common human response to a 300 pound predatory cat on the roam with her fangs exposed looking you over like something on the steam line at Old Cat Country Buffet.  I think, no I know, my first response would be to GTFO there.

There are already reports that at least one of the three kids was involved in taunting the tiger (probably the one who was killed).  There are reports that one victim scaled a wall and dangled his leg in front of the tiger and he might have placed a plank over the moat.  Yet, according to some, like SF Commissioner Michela Alioto-Pier, "it doesn't matter what those young men were or weren't doing" whatever happened was the fault of the San Francisco Zoo.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Steve Urkel.

Thu Dec 27, 2007 at 04:58:49 PM EST

none

Why is someone like Michela Alioto-Pier even making pronouncements at this time? It is true the zoo has an obligation to secure its animals from the actions of idiots, but if those guys put a plank across the moat (I initially suspected a disgruntled employee, but a lot of people seem to be acting like the two first mauled did something) which lead to that other guys death that would seem to me to be negligent homicide. (Lawyers, any opinions?).

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missing about 7 feet

1fastdog.

Thu Dec 27, 2007 at 06:43:56 PM EST

none

There are reports that one victim scaled a wall and dangled his leg in front of the tiger and he might have placed a plank over the moat.

I was reading through some of the reader commentary from the SanFranChro article and it seems that the so-called 20 foot fence is actually in the neighborhood of 12 and a half feet instead. Apparently it's been slowly sinking for a number of years from a variety of reasons. 12 1/2 feet is just not an impressive height for keeping a 300lb eating machine at bay.... especially if someone is dangling a tasty leg in plain sight.

Somewhere in my soul, there's always Rock -n- Roll... Joe Strummer

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Lou.

Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 07:47:47 AM EST

none

I want to know more about Gerry's "I love you tiger idea".

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TonedEff.

Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 07:00:42 PM EST

4.00 (funny)

I think it involves a wacky picture of a cat captioned:  I CAN HAZ GERRYBURGER?

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