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The Other Other Front In The War On/Of Terror

rEvolution inAction.

Posted to Politics on Sat Feb 17, 2007 at 09:55:24 AM EST (promoted by 1fastdog). RSS.

Somalia has been without a government since its civil war began in 1991. It was the scene of the events of the movie Black Hawk Down and in 2006 was taken over by the Islamic Courts Union (ICU). Since 2004, the recognized government of Somalia has been the Transitional Federal Government (TFG), but the real power has been the feuding warlords who control their own territory and make their own law as they see fit. Like in Afghanistan in the mid-'90s, Islam offered the people security from what was basically rule by banditry, but the TFG with the help of Ethiopian troops (and support of US aircraft) was able to drive the rebels and the ICU out of the capital and restore [dis]order.

While the African Union is moving to deploy peacekeepers from Uganda and Nigeria - as the TFG has little or no troops of its own - the ICU has seen its moderates go back to their families and the extremists begin the guerrilla war they promised when they were kicked out of power. At this time the TFG is refusing to negotiate with even the moderates as part of the reconciliation process. So it seems 'Democracy' has won the day.. but it has had some interesting fallout.

Foreign fighters have been captured, notably some Britons and an American. Britain has released four men that were caught along the border with Kenya, while the US has decided to charge(PDF) a US citizen with "undergoing military training with a terrorist organization" and "conspiracy to detonate an explosive device." "Any who seek to aid terrorists in their mission to threaten our national security will be held to account for such serious criminal conduct," said Don DeGabrielle, U.S. Attorney for the Southern District in Houston.

Tags: written by rEvolution inAction, edited by 1fastdog, Somalia, Islam, Ethiopia, Africa, Islamic Courts Union, Transitional Federal Government, African Union, peacekeepers, bandits, terrorists, guerrilla war (all tags)

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Re: The Other Other Front In The War On/Of Terror

thefadd.

Sat Feb 17, 2007 at 12:27:53 PM EST

none

Somalia is pretty much all the argument you need to see that these aren't wars against terror but wars for oil and to understand that Clinton actually was attempting to be productive in his foreign incursions.

escalators never fail; they just become stairs

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Re: The Other Other Front In The War On/Of Terror

ckm.

Sat Feb 17, 2007 at 02:29:57 PM EST

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Too bad the Middle East only provides 10% of US oil.  If it is a war for oil, it's oil for Europeans, ironically.

Chris.

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Re: The Other Other Front In The War On/Of Terror

rEvolution inAction.

Sat Feb 17, 2007 at 03:59:42 PM EST

4.00 (brilliant)

It doesn't matter where the oil is coming from or going to, what matter is supply and demand.. so the US makes sure that the Middle East gives enough oil to Europe so that Canada won't overcharge on the US oil bill.

Tipping Sacred Cows

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I don't know.

MayorBob.

Sat Feb 17, 2007 at 02:45:54 PM EST

none

Somalia began as a humanitarian mission by Bush to try to protect food deliveries to starving Somalians.  The problem became that the president left the country and left behind a shitload of warlords and their armed underlings behind.  At some point in this mess, Bush lost to Clinton and the US came to turn the mission from humanitarian and peacekeeping to policing up the sides in the Somalian civil war.  Ultimately, the US forces in Somalia became linked as allies to one or more factions and enemies of others (whether that was correct or not, that was the perception and that's all that matters anyhow).  When the events recounted in "Blackhawk Down" came about, Clinton realized this was the ultimate zero sum game (meaning that the best you could expect was zero from sticking around) and we left and Somalia descended into the lawless,  government-free zone it became until the Islamics took over.

I never considered Iraq a war for oil and, considering how things have gone, it's still not.  In my mind, Iraq was ultimately Bush the Younger settling up old family business for Bush the Elder.  The fact that 911 happened and provided the slimmest of contexts and precepts to rationalize invading Iraq was pure serendipity.  I often wonder had 911 not happened could Dubya have gotten the support to mount a regime change in Baghdad.

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Who owns Bush? Big Oil and the Saudis do

1fastdog.

Sun Feb 18, 2007 at 10:16:56 AM EST

none

I never considered Iraq a war for oil and, considering how things have gone, it's still not.

The strange thing is Mayor, that there is a very good argument to be made that it was a war for oil, but not in the way that most people think. The theory goes a little like this:
Iraq has the 2nd largest reserves of easily available oil after the Saudis. The Saudis control OPEC regardless of who is technically/officially in charge (IIRC, the Saudis are the ones who set production quotas for everyone in OPEC)- thus the Saudis largely determine the starting price for oil. Should anyone exceed the production limits imposed by OPEC because they want to pick up quick cash by selling below market price, the Saudis can flood the market with oil for as long as needed to quash any price insurrection, because they have the largest reserves.

The Saudis realized that should Hussein-controlled Iraq ever get its shit together long enough to get sanctions lifted and start being a player in the oil game, he had enough reserves to make trouble for the Saudis, even if it was just temporarily. Indeed, even with Iraq's sanction-controlled production capacity, Hussein's saber-rattling and provocative behaviour often caused temporary price fluctuations that drove the Saudis nuts as it interfered with their direct control of oil's price.

Saddam was jerking the oil market up and down. One week, without notice, the man in the moustache suddenly announces he's going to "support the Palestinian intifada" and cuts off all oil shipments. The result: Worldwide oil prices jump. The next week, Saddam forgets about the Palestinians and pumps to the maximum allowed under the Oil-For-Food Program. The result: Oil prices suddenly dive-bomb. Up, down, up, down. Saddam was out of control.
Within days of Bush's election in November 2000, the James Baker Institute issued this warning:
In a market with so little cushion to cover unexpected events, oil prices become extremely sensitive to perceived supply risks. Such a market increases the potential leverage of an otherwise lesser producer such as Iraq...

The tinpot despot was, almost alone, setting the weekly world price of oil and Big Oil did not care for that. In the CFR's sober language:
Saddam is a destabilizing influence... to the flow of oil to international markets from the Middle East."

With Saddam gone and Iraq unstable, everyone in Big Oil, including our very own companies benefits by that oil in Iraq staying right where it is: underground and unavailable. So we didn't go into Iraq to get the oil out, we went there to keep it securely locked away and unavailable. Just like the Saudis and Big Oil wanted it to be. The less oil available, the higher the price consumers have to pay for it.

 I often wonder had 911 not happened could Dubya have gotten the support to mount a regime change in Baghdad.

Most certainly, if you buy into any part of the theory above. Considering Bush's overly-friendly stance in regards to Saudi Arabia and Bush's allegiance to Big Oil, then the impetus for regime change was gonna happen regardless of circumstances or merit. Bush is a loyalist first and foremost - he helps those who've helped him. And it's worth remembering that his friends in Big Oil and his friends in the Saudi govt have been the ones who've bailed him out of all his previously failed business endeavors.
Is that the way it happened? I dunno, but it's certainly an interesting theory, in any case.

Somewhere in my soul, there's always Rock -n- Roll... Joe Strummer

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