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What Comes After Afterthekiss.com?

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Posted to Media on Wed Feb 21, 2007 at 02:51:34 AM EST (promoted by 1fastdog). RSS.

It was a simple and seemingly clever idea from the marketing folks at Masterfoods USA, maker of the Snicker's candy bar. Premier a new commercial during the Super Bowl showing two manly men working on a car, have them accidentally "kiss" while eating a Snicker's bar, and then direct viewers to a website (the astutely named afterthekiss.com) to see alternate endings of what happened "after the kiss."

What the marketing folks did not foresee, however, was the ensuing storm of protests that would come from gay rights groups. GLAAD and the Matthew Shepard foundation released a press release the following day condemning the ads as homophobic; post-game analysis of the advertising generally singled the Snicker's campaign as tasteless, and even the sports commentariat got on board in criticizing the spot. Masterfoods quickly caved in, pulled the plug on the campaign, and took down the afterthekiss.com website, which now redirects to snickers.com.

While it seems clear that Masterfoods did not intend to offend the gay community with the ad, the quick chorus of calls for the ads removal is especially interesting considering that just a few years ago, a similar Heineken spot was run with less controversy. Outsports.com's Cyd Zeigler jr. thinks that forcing Snickers to pull the ad was an overreaction, arguing that:

This ad is not remotely gay-bashing. The point of the reaction of the men was so ridiculous that it made the reaction of straight men to homosexual contact the butt of the joke, not the kiss itself."

Is Ziegler right that the gay community is missing the point, or should Masterfood's advertising firm have thought things through a bit more before going ahead with what most people would recognize could be a potentially controversial spot?

Tags: written by Port1080, edited by 1fastdog, sports, Super Bowl, advertising, homosexuality, gay rights (all tags)

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What went on Afterthekiss.com?

profwhat.

Wed Feb 21, 2007 at 08:21:05 PM EST

5.00 (astute)

The Afterthekiss.com web site featured video of NFL players watching and commenting on the ad.  Among their comments:

As Desmond Clark watches the ads he reacts with "Whoa! Whoa! Hold on. Before we go to the next one, did they actually have to kiss like that?" A voice off-screen tells him they had to do fifty takes to which Clark says, "You lying. I hope they got paid a lot of money to do that." After watching The Love Boat ad, Clark says, "Come on, come on. Not two men doing this. Then all of a sudden you've go this third guy walking around and wanting to get some action too." Clark then says it's the most shocking commercial of the Super Bowl.

Colt's linebacker Cato June offers up a similar reaction as his colleagues saying, "What! Oh, they wild man! Oh, hell no! [laughing] I thought they were going to stop at some point, two men who brushed and catch each other. Two men--that's not right. Obviously, they wanted to go full throttle with that one. The Love Boat ending was probably the most entertaining for the simply fact of what are you looking at? What is that twinkle in your eye. Why are you that close to another man?"

The "Love Boat" ending referred to was one of the alternate endings on the site; "In it, a third rather creepy man appears after the first two have kissed and, after flicking his long hair like a seductive woman, asks if there is room for a third on this 'Love Boat.'"

So, wtf?  Is Snickers hiring skinheads to write its ad scripts?  I don't care if it never aired; they've got a long-haired predatory homosexual on screen, and they don't realize that's problematic until a gay guy calls them up?  And, excuse me, the NFL players?  Why are these troglodytes allowed to say or do anything other than move footballs up and down fake grass fields?  They have no other socially useful function; let's keep their views on candy bar commercials where they belong, namely, off the Internet.

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Re: What went on Afterthekiss.com?

nmiguy.

Fri Feb 23, 2007 at 11:38:59 AM EST

none

So, wtf?  Is Snickers hiring skinheads to write its ad scripts?  I don't care if it never aired; they've got a long-haired predatory homosexual on screen, and they don't realize that's problematic until a gay guy calls them up?  And, excuse me, the NFL players?  Why are these troglodytes allowed to say or do anything other than move footballs up and down fake grass fields?  They have no other socially useful function; let's keep their views on candy bar commercials where they belong, namely, off the Internet.

Gee prof, you seem to be pretty upset by this.  This is exactly what the advertisers want.  They want you to get your panties in a bunch and be outraged.  Because it is more publicity for the product.  It is the scandal of the Super Bowl commercial that gives the ad long life.  And you have been manipulated to play along in the sick game.  

Me I just get over it and say it was a stupid commercial and move on.  Nowadays if you show homophobia that is a BAD thing.  I suppose homophobia must belong in the closet so people don't get all outraged that it gets exposed.  (Shhh don't talk about homophobia, don't show homophobic characters on TV, especially in candy bar commercials.  Bad stuff will happen.  Its a secret.  If we deny it exists, if we never show it, maybe homophobia will just, you know, go away.)

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Re: What went on Afterthekiss.com?

profwhat.

Fri Feb 23, 2007 at 03:26:17 PM EST

4.00 (interesting)

First of all, I like this place and everything, but a rant on TNT does not yet equal "publicity."

Second of all, I have an even more paranoid suspicion about their motive than you have.  This wasn't a publicity ploy.  This was advertising targeted toward bigoted people.  Snickers knew they'd get slammed for it, so they devised a strategy where they would air it once--on the highest-rated program of the year--and then almost immediately apologize for it.  That way, they can appear to the world as if they don't hate gay people, while still benefiting from advertising that appeals to the macho anti-gay set.  And no, I have no evidence this happened, and I am probably giving them too much credit--but I can be paranoid, too.

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Re: What went on Afterthekiss.com?

nmiguy.

Mon Feb 26, 2007 at 09:12:53 AM EST

none

Okay so it was an advertisement targeted at bigoted people.  So?  Do you think that some non-bigoted person will see this and suddenly be like "yeah, y'know snickers is right, gay people are just plain icky"?  

My point is, what's the big deal?  There are like bigoted people in the world.  There always will be.  And some of them may decide what kind of candy bar they wish to buy and eat.  You think the bigoted people are going to buy snickers candy bars after seeing two macho guys kiss accidentally in a TV commercial?  Do you think this silly ad is going to set back gay people in the slightest?  

It is not snickers responsibility to change the world one person at a time.  They want to sell candy bars.  A memorable ad that may make some people "snicker" is not a big deal in the world, certainly not one to get all outraged about.  

You see, the thing is, when you get your panties in a bunch over every little perceived slight, you minimize the cause.  When a real issue comes up, you've already been marginalized.  

That way, they can appear to the world as if they don't hate gay people, while still benefiting from advertising that appeals to the macho anti-gay set.

And once again I say "so what?"  Let them benefit.  This is their target audience.  Let them have it.  They do their ads to benefit their target audience, hoping to sell more candy bars to that group.  If gay peopel don't like it, they can stop buying snickers candy bars.  But snickers is not making policy or swaying public opinions on gay issues.  So really, what does it matter if snickers "appears to the world" as if they don't hate gay people?"  If you can't grow thicker skin, you wouldn't have a chance in a civil rights fight.  

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Re: What went on Afterthekiss.com?

profwhat.

Mon Feb 26, 2007 at 03:47:14 PM EST

5.00 (funny)

Where are the bunched panties of which you speak?  It's not like I launched a March on Washington over this.  Snickers emitted a crass and objectionable advertisement into the culture, and that gives everyone the right to complain.

You see, the thing is, when you get your panties in a bunch over every little perceived slight, you minimize the cause.  When a real issue comes up, you've already been marginalized.

Are you giving strategic advice for the gay rights movement here, or are you expressing support for Snickers?

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Re: What went on Afterthekiss.com?

nmiguy.

Tue Feb 27, 2007 at 09:29:05 AM EST

none

Are you giving strategic advice for the gay rights movement here, or are you expressing support for Snickers?

Eh, neither.  I am just expressing my opinion, or rather defending my opinion of "big deal".  I figure I've said too much on a topic I care very little about.  

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Re: What went on Afterthekiss.com?

dzetetes.

Fri Feb 23, 2007 at 12:54:39 PM EST

none

I'm not sure that the conventional wisdom that any publicity is good publicity applies when you're trying to sell a product that people don't need and to which there are many tasty alternatives.  

I suppose we'll see what happens to sales of Snickers bars in the next few months.

In regione caecorum, rex est luscus.

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Re: What Comes After Afterthekiss.com?

logan.

Sun Feb 25, 2007 at 01:05:09 AM EST

5.00 (interesting)

What I find interesting is that our heros' first reaction after kissing another man was to wax their chests. OK, technically they ripped out some chest hair, but it works out the same. The Steve Martin/John Candy buddy comedy Planes, Trains, and Automobiles featured a similar scene. John and Steve, having been forced to share a bed for the night wake up the next morning spooning each other. The dialogue evolves like this:

Neal: Del... Why did you kiss my ear?
Del: Why are you holding my hand?
Neal: [frowns] Where's your other hand?
Del: Between two pillows...
Neal: Those aren't pillows!

The two immediately jump out of bed and launch into monologues about football, desperate to prove heterosexuality.

There are better ways the "After The Kiss" commercial could have run. Perhaps the two mechanics panic and run off to opposite ends of the garage. The first calls his wife on his cell phone to tell her how much he loves her and he'll be home right away. The other stands in a corner shuddering, then composes himself. He returns to car to finish the tune up. As he reaches for a wrench he notices a dab of caramel on his finger. He contemplates it, then licks his finger. "Worth it," he says. Cut to the first mechanic walking into his house and greeting his wife. She kisses him. He says "I wanna try something new." He produces a box of Snickers bars. She smiles lustily.

"Packed with peanuts, Snickers really satisfies."

-=Logan
Research, facts, a Republican needs not these things.

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missed opportunity

wetkarma.

Wed Feb 21, 2007 at 09:33:58 AM EST

none

I discussed this ad with my friends, and we all agreed that this was a missed advertizing opportunity. You could have done the same ad in a corporate boardroom with a guy and a girl engaging in "the kiss" , while one snicker bar is left on the table to be split between two guys.

With proper directing and acting, you could convey quite a lot of innuendo and then finish with a tag line of "try something different".

alternatively if you insist on keeping the mechanics setting (are snicker bars working class chocolate??), you could have been daring (risked the brand) and hinted that the guys liked it.

The problem with the ad is not that its homophobic, its that it associates pain with eating the chocolate bar. This is dumb. Any other response (including them going at it broke back mountain style) would have been better for the brand.

Memory is a strange bell, jubilee and knell.

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Re: missed opportunity

thefadd.

Wed Feb 21, 2007 at 01:37:40 PM EST

none

Yeah but just look at the whole advertising campaign they had going on before that. A 20-30 something black guy sitting at a desk with a middle aged white guy asking can I help you enjoy that snickers then he serenades him. Before that it was the whole fire campaign. Their ad campaigns are just plain weird and off the wall. Establishing inuendo would create WAY more internal continuity than they typically put forward in their television campaigns. They're not going to suffer any long term homophobic feedback because they're not a homophobic organization and they got more people talking about them than any other ad that aired that night. Did they have to pull some stuff? Sure, but that's what happens when you go to the edge. I think the campaign did more than they could have hoped for aside from the money wasted on the websites, which if they're smart these days wasn't all that much.

escalators never fail; they just become stairs

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Back in the days of yore

Lou.

Sat Feb 24, 2007 at 11:59:01 AM EST

none

From the subq...

Remember when gays had a sense of humour? (I'll take Paul Lynde in the center square to block.)

I can't speak for the rest of the tnt folks, but I remember the good old days

Oh wait...did you mean the good old days when it was funny for the gays to get slammed while they stayed quiet about it?

No, I don't miss those.

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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