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The One About Video Game Nostalgia

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Posted to Etcetera on Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 02:55:11 AM EST (promoted by 1fastdog). RSS.

Recent articles have noted that Sony's venerable PlayStation 2 console, in its sixth year of existence, outsold all of the new third generation consoles over the holiday season. Its cheap price and huge catalog of tried and true games has led many consumers to reject the new and stick with what they know.

Even the PS2 is too new for many video gaming fans, however. Sometimes the brightest, shiniest game isn't always the most fun to play, and the best games of older systems often beat the lousy spinoff titles that propagate the early catalogs of latest-gen consoles. There is a large community built around collecting, emulating, and especially playing, vintage games and game systems - from the very first Atari, through the classic Arcade games, right up to more recent systems like the Nintendo 64 and the Dreamcast.

What was your first favorite video game and video game console? Were you seduced by the arcades in the 1980s, or were you an early adopter of the Atari or the Intellivision? Did you miss the 8-bit boat entirely and have your first gaming moment with a Sega Genesis or a SNES? Let's take a trip down memory lane and talk about the best and most enduring games of years past.

Tags: written by Port1080, edited by 1fastdog, video games, entertainment, PlayStation, Atari, nostalgia (all tags)

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Re: The One About Video Game Nostalgia

port1080.

Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 08:40:37 AM EST

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My first gaming system was the Intellevision, and I have to admit that I still miss it more than a little. The games were quite basic, but well designed and very fun. The Intellevision gave way to the original Nintendo, and I spent many, many hours with that system as well. Techmo Super Bowl still stands up to me as one of the most enjoyable football games ever made. It's not at all realistic, but it's fun to play. This is a common problem I've found with newer games and gaming systems - although they're hyper-realistic, they require (due to the realism) so much specialized knowledge, or gaming skill, that they become very difficult to master unless you spend hundreds of hours on them. While that immersive gaming experience may be good for some, it puts those of us who are more than-casual but less-than dedicated gamers in a difficult spot. The games we have time for (the sort of stuff you find on Yahoo! games or whatever) don't have much in the way of engaging story lines, but the games that we would enjoy are so hard to master that they're impossible to just pick up and learn in a few hours. The one gaming series that stands out as bridging those gaps, in my mind, is the Final Fantasy series (particularly X - I haven't played XII yet so I can't comment on it). The game is fairly intuitive and easy to pick up, and can be completed fairly quickly if you play it in a linear fashion (but it has tons of side-quests if you prefer to become more involved). The basic rules are easy to learn, but if you want to make them more complicated, you certainly can. This is the kind of game that should be held up for emulation - something that works on many different levels, for many different audiences.

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First game?

nmiguy.

Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 11:56:29 AM EST

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I friggin had PONG.  I think it was on Atari.  I also had a Texas Instruments game system too.  This was influential on me.  While it didn't really get enough playing it first exposed me to the concept of programming.  So in 1983, I was 13 almost 14 years old, trying to use BASIC to run simple game programs that I read in a computer magazine.  I was proud that it worked as designed.  I didn't write the program, but rather copied it.  I had no idea what most fo the comments were, but some of them I did.  And it came with a little manual that explained a little about Basic graphics, sounds and whatnot.  I hadn't thought about how influential that was at age 13, but here I am now, a prorgrammer.  Not a very good one, mind you, but still in the business.  

Later on I got play station and got heavily into the Tomb Raider series.  Now I have PS2 and the greatest game ever is John Madden 05.  I have played that game more than any other.  

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Toby Flip.

Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 11:51:27 PM EST

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Yeah, my buddy had Pong and it was hardwired into a dedicated system with two knob-like controllers.  There was also, if I remember, an Atari version but I'm not sure if the controllers were of the knob variety.  
My first was the 2600 with Asteroids and Pac-Man.  but the machine I loved most was the Genesis.  Even now, my modded PSP is basically devoted solely to playing old Genesis games through an emulator.

New games (and I love them) are much easier than the old ones.  Gamasutra as an interesting opinion piece about why new games are easier.

 http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20070215/schneider_01.shtml
 

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nmiguy.

Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 08:09:25 AM EST

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Yeah those knobs were the "paddle" controllers on the original Atari.  The other controllers were the "joystick" controllers, and they really had very little joy.  There was one little red button and a plastic stick that could go in a couple of directions.  Funny, but Activision's Pitfall was about as exciting a game as you got in those days.  

Atari's first version of Pacman was pretty pathetic.  I remember getting excited about getting Raiders of teh Lost Ark for Atari.  Igave up on the game because I couldn't figure it out at some point.  And it lacked good graphics.  (all those Atari games did.)

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rEvolution inAction.

Wed Mar 14, 2007 at 11:19:31 PM EST

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There was this great game that ran off those paddles.. I think it was called 'Circus'.. come to think of it.. it was a stupid game.. but so much fun. about 20 years later I remade the song (kinda) with Fruity Loops.. had to listen to it twenty or thirty times to realize what I'd done.. but yeah..

Tipping Sacred Cows

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Thanks for That

keta.

Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 12:42:01 PM EST

none

I'm not a gamer.  Never have been, and it's highly likely that I ever will be.  But that linked essay was highly informative, and raised an issue I'd never considered, namely:

Books and movies have a huge advantage in not incurring regret in their audience. Their "players" have no agency; as much as they may dislike a twist in the plot, it's not their fault. As game designers, we must reckon with regret. Our players have to do more than like the story; they have to accept each turn of events and roll with them, and never wonder if they should have gone back to get it right.

I work next door to the Electronic Arts hq here in Burnaby, BC, and often overhear conversations on the bus amongst EA folks, most of which I automatically tune out because of their technical nature.  But I'll be listening a little closer now for discussion about the storytelling aspects of games in production.  

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Toby Flip.

Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 08:03:45 PM EST

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this is kind of a reply to both of you.

the old games lacked grafx, but somehow in the atari generation, almost every phylum of the modern video game was created in some kind of precambrian burst of evolution.  And they were HARD, and frustrating, and buggy to boot, but, in a way, that's life.  Also they were so minimal that they allow the gamer to interpose his own imagining into the game.  The motivations of the avatar in loderunner are whatever your motivations are and therefore, in a way, mor fascinating than the motivations of, say, Kratos in god of war which is an amazingly limited game (more like an interactive movie than anything else).  That said, I am now playing shadow of the colossus which as gorgeously close to lucid dreaming as a game can get.  so i guess that kind of cancels out what i just said about new games.  

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keta.

Wed Mar 14, 2007 at 11:52:52 AM EST

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Ok, now we're back to gaming talk that I tune out...

(I kid...sorta'.)

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rEvolution inAction.

Wed Mar 14, 2007 at 11:20:46 PM EST

none

I've pretty much given up on gaming ever since the cut-scene became standard.

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Wait... which one was my first again?

Territan.

Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 01:32:35 PM EST

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I had a fond recollection of a Playstation (the original boxy grey PS1) demo kiosk showing the main menu/opening/attract mode for Crash Bandicoot. I was earning a reliable paycheck, the system was cheap enough that I could afford it, I wanted to do something nice for myself...

Then I started wondering if "game system" necessarily meant console. At the time I had an Apple IIGS which, although ultimately not suited to fast-paced gaming, delivered on some fun.

Then I thought back farther, because my first computer was a TRS-80 model 1 which, although its state of gaming was sad, it could do a little.

(Say! Anyone remember SoftSide or Creative Computing magazines? They contained the BASIC program listings, and if you didn't spring for the disk with your subscription, you had to type the code in yourself. A lot harder to work with than a disk or cartridge, especially if you typoed, but technically some of it was games.)

Then I remembered the thing I had before that: the Channel F, the very first commercial cartridge-using game system produced. Atari started designing theirs first, but Fairchild was first to market. (As they say, "the early bird catches the worm, but the second rat gets the cheese.")

The Channel F also had a feature I haven't seen in any other system, and the link above has it wrong: the joystick wasn't just four-way. it could do diagonals (combinations of the first four directions), pull up, push down, and twist clockwise or counterclockwise. What they did depended on the game inserted. In that way, the Channel F had another leg-up on Atari, which had the 4/8-way joystick and a fire button. But in ways, perhaps that was easier to work with.

Damn, I miss that eight-way stick...

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Re: The One About Video Game Nostalgia

Thalia.

Mon Mar 12, 2007 at 04:29:13 PM EST

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I shall admit to my geeky roots and say that my first video game was Pong, based on a set of joysticks I helped my Dad build in 1976.  

Then I moved on to computers that included games.  The first was the TI99, which had space invaders if I recall correctly.  I stuck to computer-based gaming mostly.  The concept of buying a special console just for games always seemed odd to me.

Thalia

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Not All Hits

uncarved block.

Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 01:39:35 PM EST

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   I haven't played much console since the Atari days. Once the controllers got beyond a button and a mover (joystick, ball, dial), the limits of my manual dexterity became quite apparent. Sure, I could have taught myself, but at the time- and since- the time and money just weren't available. Now I have the money, and a chance to get games and a console for real cheap, but the urge just hasn't happened. Civ takes up too much of my time as it is!
    I've heard that mocking old games is fairly common on the Net, but this is the one place I've been following that's done so that I know about. A bit immature at times, like all their content, but fairly savvy criticism of game play as well. Scroll down and check out the entry for Law of the West entry for a good example. If the humor isn't for you, that's understandable, but I like it.

Ex ignorantia ad sapientiam; e luce ad tenebras

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TI 99/4A was the first

3fingerspointback.

Tue Mar 13, 2007 at 08:05:39 PM EST

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My parents wanted to try and get me interested in programming, but all I wanted to do on it was play Parsec.  It wasn't until halfway through grad school, when I found out how to make the little arm move back and forth using software I wrote, that I really got into comptuers.  So, that venerable machine was wasted on lots of cheap computer games that I played, until the Nintendo came out.

The best overlooked game for the 8-bit Nintendo is Zanac, a shooter with an AI system that would adapt itself to your play style.  Waste more bullets, or get more useful special weapons, and it meant you were getting tougher enemies.  Here's a run on the final level.  The big drawback of it was the sound, which must have been on a one-minute loop.

I also had an original Game Boy, but I only really remember playing Tetris on it (this was the game that came free with my unit), especially head-to-head over the link cable with my friends before school.  After school, we would hit the arcade and play four-man Cyberball, the game that got me interested in real-life football.  When I was a senior, I picked up an Atari Lynx, which I need to sell on eBay sometime soon.  The best games that I got for that were the standard Klax and Chip's Challenge.  With that I exited the 3rd Generation, and didn't start playing again on the console until the PS2 came out.

(is 3fingerspointback)

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Nostalgia

Lou.

Thu Mar 15, 2007 at 07:34:02 PM EST

none

Several  old ads from back in the day...even an expert guide for Berzerk

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine

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Re: The One About Video Game Nostalgia

dzetetes.

Fri Mar 16, 2007 at 02:38:01 PM EST

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The games I feel most nostalgic about are the old Sierra "quest" series of games: Space Quest, King's Quest, and Police Quest, mostly.  The Quest for Glory series was fun, too, and was neat in that you could give your character a name and stats, and at the end of each game, save that character and "import" it into the next game in the series.  

I'll also remember these games (particularly King's Quest and Space Quest) with a particular poignancy because pretty much the only time I ever got along with or had anything in common with my father after the age of 5 or so was when we were playing those games.

The Anonymous Game Developers (formerly Tierra Entertainment) have made VGA remakes of KQ1, KQ2, and they're working on QFG2 right now.  If you've never played Sierra games, you can find a lot of them on abandonware sites for free, and the remakes of KQ1 and 2 I spoke of are free to help avoid the wrath of Sierra.  

In regione caecorum, rex est luscus.

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