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Going From Good Samaritan To Not So Good Samaritan In California

MayorBob.

Posted to Legal on Tue Mar 27, 2007 at 10:59:12 AM EST (promoted by port1080). RSS.

If you've just witnessed an auto accident bad enough that air bags have deployed and there are still people inside the vehicle unable to get out, what do you do?  At the very least, most people would try to call 911 to get some emergency medical personnel on the scene.  But then, there are those who go the extra step and try to render some sort of assistance themselves.  These "Good Samaritans" proceed with the knowledge that, as long as they aren't looking to be compensated for their actions, they will be sheltered from liability by the law.  As a matter of fact the laws that are supposed to protect them are called Good Samaritan laws.  But, are there limits to how much protection Good Samaritans can expect?  Yes, in the mind of three judges in the Third Division of the California Court of Appeals, ruled that Good Samaritans better know they are actually providing emergency medical care or they become Not So Good Samaritans.  

The case stemmed from a single car accident which occurred in November of 2004 when Anthony Watson lost control of his car and ran into a lightpost at about 45 miles per hour.  Watson and a passenger in the back seat managed to get out of the vehicle under their own power.  Alexandra Van Horn, in the front passenger seat, wasn't so lucky.  Lisa Torti, a friend of Van Horn's, was riding in a car right behind Watson's and she helped get Van Horn out of the car.  According to Torti, she carefully lifted Van Horn out of the car.  This is where the story breaks down because, according to Van Horn, Torti dragged her out of the car "like a rag doll."  One of the outcomes of the accident is that Van Horn is a paraplegic.  Because she believed her injuries were caused by Torti's rough removal of her from the car, she sued Torti for damages.

Torti's defense of being covered by the California statute seemed good enough for the trial judge who dismissed the suit.  Especially compelling was Torti's contention she removed Van Horn because she feared the car was going to explode; she had witnessed smoke coming out of the car and there was liquid leaking from it.  But when the appeals court heard the case, they came to a different conclusion (14 pg pdf doc).  The court found the statute had to be evaluated alongside a couple of other laws on the book, all of them parsing the words "emergency" and "medical."  Justice H. Walter Croskey observed that, because there appeared to be conflicts between what Torti claimed was the condition of the car, Van Horn's extraction didn't qualify as emergency medical treatment.  Thus, the case had to be retried by the lower court taking into account whether Torti's actions constituted negligence.  A doctor's examination revealed that Van Horn had likely suffered vertebral injuries when the air bags in the car deployed.

Robert Hutchinson, Van Horn's lawyer, said the decision doesn't automatically mean that Torti will lose her case.  Hutchinson said the law doesn't compel people to render aid; they just have to act reasonably and she will now have an opportunity to tell a "jury that what she did under the circumstances was reasonable."  That's unreasonable according to Torti's lawyer, Jody Steinberg, who believes the law should cover all Good Samaritans.  Steinberg said this decision, which "sends the wrong message" will end up in the state Supreme Court.  

Tags: edited by Port1080, written by MayorBob, Good Samaritan Law, tort (all tags)

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Re: Going From Good Samaritan To Not So Good Samar

Thalia.

Tue Mar 27, 2007 at 03:14:03 PM EST

5.00 (interesting)

This is a really dangerous precedent if you want people to help others.  Even assuming Ms. Torti wins, she probably spent hundreds of thousands of dollars defending herself in this lawsuit.  Would you touch someone to help them if you knew that your liability would potentially cost you your savings or your house?

The fundamental argument made by the court is that this is not "medical care" because removing someone from a potentially-exploding car is not "medical care" in the sense that this was not a "medical emergency" but rather a you're-about-to-be-blown-up emergency.  So my suggestion to you is not to rescue someone who is drowning, or in a ditch, or being menaced by snakes, or otherwise in a dangerous environmental situation, because you are not covered by the Good Samaritan laws in California.  If you give CPR, you're OK.  But if you move someone because of such an environmental factor, you're SOL.

I feel sympathy for Ms. Van Horn, but she's still being unreasonable here.

Thalia

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Re: Going From Good Samaritan To Not So Good Samar

wetkarma.

Tue Mar 27, 2007 at 03:43:22 PM EST

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Taken from Wikipedia:


Though the details of Good Samaritan laws in various jurisdictions vary, some features are common:

 General guidelines

   1. Unless a caretaker relationship (such as a parent-child or doctor-patient relationship) exists prior to the illness or injury, or the "Good Samaritan" is responsible for the existence of the illness or injury, no person is required to give aid of any sort to a victim.
   2. Any first aid provided must not be in exchange for any reward or financial compensation. As a result, medical professionals are typically not protected by Good Samaritan laws when performing first aid in connection with their employment.
   3. If aid begins, the responder must not leave the scene until:
          * It is necessary in order to call for needed medical assistance.
          * Somebody of equal or higher ability can take over.
          * Continuing to give aid is unsafe (this can be as simple as a lack of adequate protection against potential diseases, such as latex gloves to protect against HIV) -- a responder can never be forced to put himself or herself in danger to aid another person.
   4. The responder is not legally liable for the death, disfigurement or disability of the victim as long as the responder acted as a rational person of the same level of training would have under the same circumstances.

I think the lady has a point -- first aid is distinctly different from pushing someone out of the way of a collapsing building. Removing someone from a vehicle can't be considered medical care and contorting the law when it doesn't provide that sort of protection is bad precedent.

On the other hand, the first time I read this article I was a bit confused -- I thought good samaritan laws delineated an -obligation- to provide help (see last episode of Seinfeld) rather than protection in the event you choose to help.

Evidently different states have different standards of what "good samaritan laws" mean...in the case of California, it seems that the law applies to protection by giving first aid.

Memory is a strange bell, jubilee and knell.

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Re: Going From Good Samaritan To Not So Good

Jackie.

Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 04:00:34 PM EST

5.00 (interesting)

From my understanding of this case based on other articles that I've read, that it was reported that at the scene of the accident Ms. Van Horn was removed from the vehicle but placed her alongside the vehicle.  If it was truly believed that the vehicle was about to explode, why would you place someone alongside the vehicle? As another commenter said that Ms. Van Horn is just drawing this into more expensive legal battles then necessary. Not to sound insensitive but I do believe that yes it is tragic what happen to Ms. Van Horn but she should be thankful she is alive and drop all these legal battles.  It has been reported that Mr. Watson has paid through his insurance and out of his own pocket all of her medical and legal fees and then some. Why is she continually trying to drag this out?

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Samaritans

tomc.

Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 01:08:12 AM EST

4.00 (funny)

I occasionally act as a good Samaritan.  You learn a lot.  

For example, when you see a guy kicking the shit out of a woman, always ask the woman if she would like assistance before intervening.

Never provide medical assistance unless you're licensed or trained to do so.

And, generally speaking, don't move a body - get a professional to decide whether or not that's ok.

The most effective thing you can do is call for help.

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thefadd.

Fri Mar 30, 2007 at 02:16:23 PM EST

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I've been through red cross first aid and cpr training three times and have thankfully never really needed it. But even in a couple close calls, it was interesting to me how quickly the training kicked in. After having been through it 3 times, I went straight back to it. My training was always through work so I didn't have to pay but it's not terribly expensive when compared against the peace of mind you have being prepared for a real life situation.

escalators never fail; they just become stairs

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Re: Going From Good Samaritan To Not So Good Samar

Milo.

Tue Mar 27, 2007 at 12:43:25 PM EST

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Torti removed the plaintiff from Watson's car before emergency personnel arrived to the scene apparently because she feared the vehicle would catch fire or blow up.


That's what you get for watching too much TV ;)


In all seriousness, I feel bad for both parties involved here.  I think Van Horn should have better taste than sue someone who was honestly trying to help, though.  I imagine here health care costs are covered by her or the driver's insurance.


-milo

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