I personally don't like the word, and I may have trouble explaining why it hits me wrong. Apparently, though, I'm not alone: If you check out the link I provided in my post, you'll see that it can be construed as offensive:
And if things were not bad enough, Mr. Tobias is quoted in his ABC interview as saying that he 'invited gals to come over to the condo' to give him a massage, stating a special preference for 'Central American gals.' Did he really say 'gals'? Mr. Tobias is one step away from being the Don Inus of global health.
I think it has less to do with "the age of the women, " as you asked, and more to do with the man who uses the word. If an older guy refers to a neighbor as "that nice gal next door," I may cringe momentarily, but I wouldn't ascribe any agenda to his choice of words.
I think that the main problem was in the workplace or a more professional or formal setting. Note that you probably don't see any ads for a "gal Friday" anymore. To refer to a female employee as a "gal" anything is pretty much a relic of what some think was a far more sexist time. It's about as demeaning as calling a male hire a "boy," assuming of course that he's an adult.
So back to Tobias: His repetition of the word indicated that these were not women he paid to provide a service, they were "gals" whom he "invited over" to give him a massage. While he may have been simply trying to downplay their role as professionals :-), it comes across, perhaps obliquely, as demeaning and disrespectful. They're just some gals who come when he calls. And his preference for Central American gals made them sound like a menu item.
Little semantic things like this are so hard to explain to those who might never have experienced what it feels like to be casually referred to with a belittling term and who then run the risk of being dismissed for being hypersensitive.
Hey, the "gal" thing is hardly major; it's just one more sadly amusing facet of the hypocrisy so inevitably the result of the sanctimony with which this administration is imbued.
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Re: Shock & Law
Tue May 08, 2007 at 10:12:01 AM EST
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Thank you Sue for your response. I promise not to refer to you as a "gal" as it rubs you the wrong way.
It just seems that more and more of the relics of ancient vernacular are disposed of because they are offensive. Calling a boy a boy is offensive. Calling gal a gal is offensive. I can't refer to people as folks, I have to call them people. Language is so restrictive these days, there is a plethora of wonderful words from yesteryear that connotate people in a descriptive sense that are now taboo.
Nowadays, if you call a prostitute a whore, you've crossed that line. If you call a gay man a fag you are a homophobe and an asshole. I understand that many words are meant to be hurtful and pejorative. But then there are words that are innocuous, that are from a prior generation where there is no bad intent, like "gal". In the old days a woman coudl say "I'm a gal", or "I'm his gal" as easily as a man could say "she's my gal". A term of affection. But in the modern word, it hearkens back to a more sexist time. I wonder if these times are overly sensitive to the point of being restrictive and still sexist? It seems to me that to take an innocuous word like "gal" which in its day was often a word of affection and kindness, and ascribe it as an insult is kind of weird. But if the word has that affect, I wonder why. What does that say about our modern sensibilities?
I think this is something worthy of deeper thought.
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Re: Shock & Law
Tue May 08, 2007 at 10:45:30 AM EST
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It seems to me that to take an innocuous word like "gal" which in its day was often a word of affection and kindness, and ascribe it as an insult is kind of weird.
What I was trying to explain to you was that "gal" was not always so innocuous. Seems my post was for naught and my fear of the "overly sensitive" label was spot on.
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Re: Shock & Law
Tue May 08, 2007 at 11:52:22 AM EST
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What I was trying to explain to you was that "gal" was not always so innocuous.
Well the thing is, it is difficult to really see it as not innocuous. I mean, i find it difficult to conceive of "back in the day" that men or anyone would use the word "gal" in a spirit that was meant to keep women down in any way. In the day there were songs like "My Gal Sal". I have tried to look it up. The dictionary just states it as a slang for woman or girl. It also references a cockney slang for girl.
I mean, perhaps you feel the label of "overly sensitive" is spot on because you explain the word as not innocuous without example? I am not saying you are overly sensitive, only that today's world is very sensitive to the words and language that people use. When common phrases become euphemisms, and normal words become off limits, the label oddly fits. For example the phrase "tar baby" or the word "negro" are no longer acceptable words and phrases. It seems like "gal" may be going that route.
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Re: Shock & Law
Tue May 08, 2007 at 05:17:29 PM EST
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Well the thing is, it is difficult to really see it as not innocuous.
Seems your mind was made up before you asked me for my opinion.
I mean, perhaps you feel the label of "overly sensitive" is spot on because you explain the word as not innocuous without example?
Sorry I can't recall exact conversations, so I had figured that the following would have sufficed and been even more helpful:
I think that the main problem was in the workplace or a more professional or formal setting. Note that you probably don't see any ads for a "gal Friday" anymore. To refer to a female employee as a "gal" anything is pretty much a relic of what some think was a far more sexist time. It's about as demeaning as calling a male hire a "boy," assuming of course that he's an adult.
As for your the phrase "tar baby" or the word "negro" are no longer acceptable words and phrases. It seems like "gal" may be going that route, I so miss the good ol' days. Damn PC police have ruined all the fun.
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pc police
Wed May 09, 2007 at 08:23:29 AM EST
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Sue, I am curious as to whether modern "pc" sensibilities have become ingrained in our emotional reactions to the vernacular of yesteryear. Language does change and evolve. Back in the 80's there wa a common phrase "she's fresh" which meant something entirely different from what an elder generation would mean by calling a person "fresh". Older generations would see that as meaning a person was flippant or disrespectful to an elder. But in the 80's fresh was a compliment, a clean looking exciting and energetic pretty young girl. Now that phrase has left popular vernacular entirely. It was a fad.
Now "gal" if it is a relic, coulld be considered a fad, but I don't really think it was. "Groovy" is a fad and a relic from the 60's and 70's. But if you use it today to refer to somebody, it is not insulting. No negative connotation. If today someone called you fresh or groovy, you may not see it as an insult. But if they call you a gal, it is something that you are uncomfortable with.
Seems like Webster's dictionary needs to update the word. It means something else now.
Thanks for your opinion. I think I learned something I did not know.
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Re: pc police
Wed May 09, 2007 at 02:42:22 PM EST
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Personally, I think gal was an acceptable term at the time but used in a way that we now deem inappropriate. The whole context of the way the term was used then has basically been deemed inappropriate. You don't have "office gals" working as secretaries in otherwise male dominated worlds anymore. "Gal" wasn't deemed an offensive word then and it isn't really (in my mind) an offensive word now. But its use does conjure up a time and a place that is now contextually offensive and degrading.
To me, it's none too different from the term "gay" as in "that's so gay" (ie, dumb). In elementary school in the 80's, we used it to mean dumb and we thought nothing of it. None of us now or then intend insult on homosexual people. That the word likely came from that wasn't really known to us at the time. Sometimes, I still want to use the word that way because it was a specific grade of stupid, somewhere in between just plain dumb and moderately annoying.
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